Valves STEAM account seems to avoid the sp2 firewall

G

Guest

I will remove Steam totally from the exceptions area in the firewall but
somehow steam will communicate with the internet like there is no firewall at
all.
How can I be sure the firewall is working ?
Is there ways for programs running to avoid the firewall altogether ?
WinXP PRO upgraded to sp2 via download.
Firewall is enabled and will pop up a window for new programs but not for
steam.
How do i reset the firewall so it will stop all programs and again ask me if
I want to allow them to connect to the Ethernet/Internet/Dialup or whatever
???
 
T

Thota Umesh

Go to control panel > windows firewall : you will see a tab open , go to
exceptions and remove the programs you dont want your firewall to allow
access by default once done if this program needs to access internet u will
get pop up stating details

T.Umesh
www.windowsworkshop.com
 
D

Daniel Crichton

gmvoeth wrote on Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:56:01 -0700:
I will remove Steam totally from the exceptions area in the firewall but
somehow steam will communicate with the internet like there is no firewall
at all.
How can I be sure the firewall is working ?
Is there ways for programs running to avoid the firewall altogether ?
WinXP PRO upgraded to sp2 via download.
Firewall is enabled and will pop up a window for new programs but not for
steam.
How do i reset the firewall so it will stop all programs and again ask me
if I want to allow them to connect to the Ethernet/Internet/Dialup or
whatever

The XP firewall does not block outgoing connections, only incoming. Whenever
it pops up a message about allowing a program, that message is asking if you
want the XP firewall to allow incoming connections to that program because
it is listening on a port. Steam makes outgoing connections to download
things (just like your mail client, or web browser), and so XP firewall
doesn't stop it because that's not what it's designed to do.

If you want to block outgoing connections, you can use something like
ZoneAlarm - however, this offers no real benefit over the XP firewall.

Dan
 
G

Guest

Yes I know it should work this way but after removing steam from the list it
made no difference steam would still run and everything with no firewall
warnings.
It was like no firewall at all even though the firewall was enabled. I have
the sygate firewall as a backup but I do not want to switch back to that
unless the WinXP sp2 one will do its thing.
--
Regards;
gmvoeth


Thota Umesh said:
Go to control panel > windows firewall : you will see a tab open , go to
exceptions and remove the programs you dont want your firewall to allow
access by default once done if this program needs to access internet u will
get pop up stating details

T.Umesh
www.windowsworkshop.com
 
G

Guest

The XP firewall does not block outgoing connections, only incoming.

This means it is not a good firewall.
Spyware depends upon messages leaving your system
and not ones coming in.

You need a firewall that will control both incoming and outgoing.

I suspect that the Windows Firewall is expected by its developers to
control bidirectional full duplex data flow.
If this is not true then Windows Itself is aiding
others out there who want to invade your privacies.

I have a sygate firewall that seems to work pretty good
but it is old and I am not sure they still distribute a free one.

I think good utilities should be included with any operating system
or you are at the mercy of law of the jungle type economics.

In Any Case I need to figure this thing out
and thank all of you who replies.

We all should have 100% control of our own computers
no matter who writes the software.
 
R

Robert Moir

gmvoeth said:
This means it is not a good firewall.

No. It means that someone who expects it to block outgoing connections
doesn't understand how the product works. It has limits, rather severe ones
in fact, but within those limits it behaves exactly as designed.
 
G

Guest

I may not understand this particular firewall but I do understand if you want
privacy you must have total control over outgoing communications as well as
incoming.
But none of this really answers the question at hand. The thing I want to
know the most is How To Reset Windows Firewall to Zero...beginning...to the
time before it would allow anything to communicate. Right now there are
things in the exceptions list that can not be removed. Tell me how to force
the firewall to check anything and everything and please not just tell me I'm
ignorant. You do not have to tell me that. The smarter a person is the more
he knows what he does not know. The more he understands his own ignorance. I
would not be asking here if I did not have some degree of ignorance. It is
exactly ignorance i am trying to erase here.
If you can not tell me how to reset the Firewall in some way other than
deleting the exceptions I think you can be of no help.
I do not need a firewall that will not block as I tell it to block. A
firewall that allows things to leak like information through a national
security compartmentization.
It seems to me I need something in addition or instead of Windows Firewall
and I do not mean NORTON or McAfee. I need something the DOD might use.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

gmvoeth said:
I may not understand this particular firewall but I do understand
if you want privacy you must have total control over outgoing
communications as well as incoming.
But none of this really answers the question at hand. The thing I
want to know the most is How To Reset Windows Firewall to
Zero...beginning...to the time before it would allow anything to
communicate. Right now there are things in the exceptions list that
can not be removed. Tell me how to force the firewall to check
anything and everything and please not just tell me I'm ignorant.
You do not have to tell me that. The smarter a person is the more
he knows what he does not know. The more he understands his own
ignorance. I would not be asking here if I did not have some degree
of ignorance. It is exactly ignorance i am trying to erase here.
If you can not tell me how to reset the Firewall in some way other
than deleting the exceptions I think you can be of no help.
I do not need a firewall that will not block as I tell it to block.
A firewall that allows things to leak like information through a
national security compartmentization.
It seems to me I need something in addition or instead of Windows
Firewall and I do not mean NORTON or McAfee. I need something the
DOD might use.


The smarter person can use Google.
http://www.winxptutor.com/sp2/resetfw.htm

In case you wondered.. I googled for:

Reset the Windows Firewall

And selected the link above.
 
L

Leythos

I will remove Steam totally from the exceptions area in the firewall but
somehow steam will communicate with the internet like there is no firewall at
all.
How can I be sure the firewall is working ?
Is there ways for programs running to avoid the firewall altogether ?
WinXP PRO upgraded to sp2 via download.
Firewall is enabled and will pop up a window for new programs but not for
steam.
How do i reset the firewall so it will stop all programs and again ask me if
I want to allow them to connect to the Ethernet/Internet/Dialup or whatever

Windows XP SP2 firewall does not filter outbound, it allows ALL outbound
by default.
 
G

Guest

LOL the smarter person gets his answers from the same people who programmed
the firewall in the first place but Microsoft seems to guard its programmers
and does not let the general public have access to them and their wealth of
knowledge. When I worked at DEC the programmers were a protected specie and i
think that is terrible because they got the knowledge of exactly what goes on
inside their programs. If this newsgroup does not exist to answer the kind of
questions I pose here I think Microsoft needs to be eradicated because they
are keeping things secret that should be common knowledge. I want to get all
my answers from Microsoft and not the world at large.
I can not be sure that Magic Lantern is not a normal part of Windows because
Bill Gates is a government agent and so is his company and he will not
release the source code or allow people to reverse engineer.
You do not need that kind of protection unless there are things about
Windows that is dangerous. The only reason I do not use Linux is because it
is terribly unfriendly even though it is well known. But as any smart person
knows a kind and wonderful person can smile and say "God Is Great" while
taking off your head.
Windows just might be one of these smiling friendly killers if the network
is not kept on a tight leash.
Try getting a register map for a 6800 or 7800 video card or a USB port.
These darn tech people are so secretive it makes me ill. In the USA if you
are not Government and you try to keep secrets it automatically makes you a
criminal. There is no Right To Secrecy under the US Constitution and Bill of
Rights.
Under the LAW secrecy is not the same as Privacy because with privacy
everyone still knows whats going on they just choose to look the other way.
I think all Corporations who are civilian are criminal when they keep
secrets and that makes them Organized crime.
 
G

Guest

Can you tell me how you are so sure of this.
If this is true then it is a worthless firewall
because I can keep the bad critters out of my
machine and i can keep secrets just like microsoft
if only I can gain control of the all traffic
both coming in and going out. I think if the firewall
only handles incoming traffic then Microsoft is lying to us
it is not really a firewall but a virus screener and that
just is not good enough for me.


Do you know of a good free program that will
display incoming and outgoing traffic in some
graphical way even though it might not be a firewall.
I am really not so interested in stopping all activity
as I am at seeing all the different Protocols out there like
DDCMP or I think it is called HDLC/SDLC the military
might even have its very own secret Protocol that we
commoners are not allowed to know about and
would be invisible to civilian machines.
It would not surprise me if MS was writing secret
ProtoCols for the Corporations and such.
Things we can only imagine in our nightmares.
 
D

Daniel Crichton

gmvoeth wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:20:01 -0700:
This means it is not a good firewall.
Spyware depends upon messages leaving your system
and not ones coming in.

And if you've got the spyware on your machine, it's already too late.
Prevention is the key. If you want to block outgoing, use a proper firewall,
not some placebo like ZoneAlarm. If the software "firewall" to block
outgoing is on your host machine, it's a simple task to bypass it.
You need a firewall that will control both incoming and outgoing.

Why? You only need to prevent incoming for the above reason.
I suspect that the Windows Firewall is expected by its developers to
control bidirectional full duplex data flow.
If this is not true then Windows Itself is aiding
others out there who want to invade your privacies.

Not, it's stopping the worms and other automated attacks from getting into
the system, which is what it is designed to do.
I have a sygate firewall that seems to work pretty good
but it is old and I am not sure they still distribute a free one.

And can easily be circumvented by a malicious program that is on your PC
should it be programmed to.
I think good utilities should be included with any operating system
or you are at the mercy of law of the jungle type economics.

The XP firewall is better than other similar products for blocking incoming
connections, as it doesn't have all the additional bloat that the others do
and doesn't hog system resources.
In Any Case I need to figure this thing out
and thank all of you who replies.

We all should have 100% control of our own computers
no matter who writes the software.

You obviously don't have 100% control if you're worried about things going
out. If you don't want Steam to connect out, don't install it.

Dan
 
D

Daniel Crichton

gmvoeth wrote on Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:56:01 -0700:
I will remove Steam totally from the exceptions area in the firewall but
somehow steam will communicate with the internet like there is no firewall
at all.

Have you read

http://support.steampowered.com/cgi...F9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1vZmZsaW5l&p_li=&p_topview=1


This explains how to put Steam into Offline mode so it doesn't need to
connect to the Steam network to play games.

Also read this

http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=subscriber_agreement

The first line of section 2.A. (License Terms) implies that a connection to
the Steam is a requirement of your agreement to use Steam. Preventing that
connection could be a breach of your subscriber agreement and result in your
account termination.

As I said in my other reply, if you don't want Steam to connect out,
uninstall it. If you want to play the games available via Steam, you must
keep to the terms you agreed when signing up to Steam and follow the
appropriate instructions for Offline Mode if you need to play offline.

Dan
 
L

Leythos

Can you tell me how you are so sure of this.
If this is true then it is a worthless firewall
because I can keep the bad critters out of my
machine and i can keep secrets just like microsoft
if only I can gain control of the all traffic
both coming in and going out. I think if the firewall
only handles incoming traffic then Microsoft is lying to us
it is not really a firewall but a virus screener and that
just is not good enough for me.

Firewall has become a Hype term, see NAT Routers being called Firewalls
for the last several years - the same devices that were just called NAT
Routers before, without any function changes...

Steam is NOT impacted by the Windows XP Firewall, it lets all traffic
out that wants out, so it's not windows xp firewall causing the
problems. I play Counter-Strike on a XP computer, have the Firewall
Enabled from time to time (as I sit behind a real firewall appliance
most days) and have never had any issues.

If you are running a CS Server, well, then you have to make exceptions,
but running a CS server on XP is a waste.
Do you know of a good free program that will
display incoming and outgoing traffic in some
graphical way even though it might not be a firewall.
I am really not so interested in stopping all activity
as I am at seeing all the different Protocols out there like
DDCMP or I think it is called HDLC/SDLC the military
might even have its very own secret Protocol that we
commoners are not allowed to know about and
would be invisible to civilian machines.
It would not surprise me if MS was writing secret
ProtoCols for the Corporations and such.
Things we can only imagine in our nightmares.

Don't start with the foil hat crap.

Get a NAT Router, like a Linksys BEFSR41 unit, enable logging, run
wallwatcher and you can see, in realtime, all in/out traffic.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

gmvoeth said:
LOL the smarter person gets his answers from the same people who
programmed the firewall in the first place but Microsoft seems to
guard its programmers and does not let the general public have
access to them and their wealth of knowledge. When I worked at DEC
the programmers were a protected specie and i think that is
terrible because they got the knowledge of exactly what goes on
inside their programs. If this newsgroup does not exist to answer
the kind of questions I pose here I think Microsoft needs to be
eradicated because they are keeping things secret that should be
common knowledge. I want to get all my answers from Microsoft and
not the world at large.
I can not be sure that Magic Lantern is not a normal part of
Windows because Bill Gates is a government agent and so is his
company and he will not release the source code or allow people to
reverse engineer.
You do not need that kind of protection unless there are things
about Windows that is dangerous. The only reason I do not use Linux
is because it is terribly unfriendly even though it is well known.
But as any smart person knows a kind and wonderful person can smile
and say "God Is Great" while taking off your head.
Windows just might be one of these smiling friendly killers if the
network is not kept on a tight leash.
Try getting a register map for a 6800 or 7800 video card or a USB
port. These darn tech people are so secretive it makes me ill. In
the USA if you are not Government and you try to keep secrets it
automatically makes you a criminal. There is no Right To Secrecy
under the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Under the LAW secrecy is not the same as Privacy because with
privacy everyone still knows whats going on they just choose to
look the other way. I think all Corporations who are civilian are
criminal when they keep secrets and that makes them Organized crime.

"Thanks" would have been sufficient.
You're welcome.

Good luck. And buy the "industrial foil" - it holds its shape longer.

Tip (5) for firewall information.

Microsoft has these suggestions for Protecting your computer from the
various things that could happen to you/it:

Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

Outfitting a new computer for the Net
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/update/newcomputer.mspx

Getting started with a new PC
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/moredone/yournewpc.mspx

Although those tips are fantastic, there are many things you should
know above and beyond that. Below I have detailed out many tips
that can not only help you clean-up a problem PC but keep it clean,
secure and running at its best.

I know this text can seem intimidating - it is quite long and a lot
to take in for a novice - however I can assure you that one trip
through this list and you will understand your computer and the
options available to you for protecting your data much better -
and that the next time you go through these steps, the time it
takes will be greatly reduced.

Let's take the cleanup of your computer step-by-step.
Yes, it will take up some of your time - but consider what you use
your computer for and how much you would dislike it if all of your
stuff on your computer went away because you did not "feel like"
performing some simple maintenance tasks - think of it like taking
out your garbage, collecting and sorting your postal mail, paying
your bills on time, etc.

I'll mainly work around Windows XP, as that is what the bulk of this
document is about; however, here is some places for you poor souls
still stuck in Windows 98/ME where you can get information on
maintaining your system:

Windows 98 and 'Maintaining Your Computer':
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/maintaining/

Windows ME Computer Health:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsME/using/computerhealth/articles/

Pay close attention to the sections:
(in order)
- Clean up your hard disk
- Check for errors by running ScanDisk
- Defragment your hard disk
- Roll back the clock with System Restore


Also - now is a good time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others have found:

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )


Now, let's go through some maintenance first that should only have to be
done once (mostly):

Tip (1):
Locate all of the software you have installed on your computer.
(the installation media - CDs, downloaded files, etc)
Collect these CDs and files together in a central and safe
place along with their CD keys and such. Make backups of these
installation media sets using your favorite copying method (CD/DVD Burner
and application, Disk copier, etc.) You'll be glad to know that if you
have a CD/DVD burner, you may be able to use a free application to make a
duplicate copy of your CDs. One such application is ISORecorder:

ISORecorder page (with general instructions on use):
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/beta.htm

Yes - it is BETA software - but very useful and well tested.
(Don't know what "BETA" means? In simplest terms, it is the stage of a
softwares' life where it is tested for bugs, crashes, errors,
inconsistencies, and any other problems.)

More full function applications (free) for CD/DVD burning would be:

CDBurnerXP Pro
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

DeepBurner Free
http://www.deepburner.com/

ImgBurn (burn ISO images)
http://www.imgburn.com/

Another Option would be to search the web with Pricewatch.com or
Dealsites.net and find deals on Products like Ahead Nero and/or Roxio.


Tip (2):
Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 128MB and 512MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.


Tip (3):
If things are running a bit sluggish and/or you have an older system
(1.5GHz or less and 256MB RAM or less) then you may want to look into
tweaking the performance by turning off some of the 'resource hogging'
Windows XP "prettifications". The fastest method is:

Control Panel --> System --> Advanced tab --> Performance section,
Settings button. Then choose "adjust for best performance" and you
now have a Windows 2000/98 look which turned off most of the annoying
"prettifications" in one swift action. You can play with the last
three checkboxes to get more of an XP look without many of the
other annoyances. You could also grab and install/use one
(or more) of the Microsoft Powertoys - TweakUI in particular:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Another viable (decently inexpensive) option is to increase the amount
of memory (RAM) your computer has. You can get an idea of what you
need by visiting:

Crucial Memory AdvisorT Tool
http://www.crucial.com/

Then either buy direct from there or write down the specs you get and
visit: http://www.pricewatch.com/ and locate the best price on what you
need. 512MB up to 1GB total memory should be more than enough for
the normal home user.


Tip (4):
Understanding what a good password might be is vital to your
personal and system security. You may think you do not need to password
your home computer, as you may have it in a locked area (your home) where
no one else has access to it. Remember, however, you aren't always
"in that locked area" when using your computer online - meaning you likely
have usernames and passwords associated with web sites and the likes that
you would prefer other people do not discover/use. This is why you should
understand and utilize good passwords.

Good passwords are those that meet these general rules
(mileage may vary):

Passwords should contain at least six characters, and the character
string should contain at least three of these four character types:
- uppercase letters
- lowercase letters
- numerals
- nonalphanumeric characters (e.g., *, %, &, !, :)

Passwords should not contain your name/username.
Passwords should be unique to you and easy to remember.

One method many people are using today is to make up a phrase that
describes a point in their life and then turning that phrase into their
password by using only certain letters out of each word in that phrase.
It's much better than using your birthday month/year or your anniversary
in a pure sense. For example, let's say my phrase is:
'Great new job in January 2006'
I could come up with this password from that:
'Gr8n3wj0bJAN2006'

The password tip is in the one time section, but I highly
recommend you periodically change your passwords. The suggested time
varies, but I will throw out a 'once in every 3 to 6 months for
every account you have.'

Also - many people complain that they just cannot remember the passwords
for all the sites they have - so they choose one password and use it for
everything. Not a good idea. A much better method would be to use a
Password Management tool - so you only have to remember one password,
but it opens an application that stores your username/passwords for
everything else - plus other valuable information. One that I can
recommend:

KeePass Password Safe
http://keepass.sourceforge.net/

It can even generate passwords for you.


Tip (5):
This tip is also 'questionable' in the one time section; however -
if properly setup - this one can be pretty well ignored for most people
after the initial 'fiddle-with' time.

Why you should use a computer firewall..
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/viruses/fwbenefits.mspx

You should, in some way, use a firewall. Hardware (like a nice
Cable Modem/DSL router) or software is up to you. Many use both of
these. The simplest one to use is the hardware one, as most people
don't do anything that they will need to configure their NAT device
for and those who do certainly will not mind fiddling with the equipment
to make things work for them. Next in the line of simplicity would
have to be the built-in Windows Firewall of Windows XP. In SP2 it
is turned on by default. It is not difficult to turn on in any
case, however:

Enable/Disable the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283673

More information on the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320855

Post-SP2 Windows Firewall Information/guidance:
http://snipurl.com/atal

The trouble with the Windows Firewall is that it only keeps things
out. For most people who maintain their system in other ways, this is
MORE than sufficient. However, you may feel otherwise. If you want to
know when one of your applications is trying to obtain access to the
outside world so you can stop it, then you will have to install a
third-party application and configure/maintain it. I have compiled a
list with links of some of the better known/free firewalls you can choose
from:

BlackICE PC Protection (~$39.95 and up)
http://blackice.iss.net/

Jetico Personal Firewall (Free)
http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/jpfirewall.htm

Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF) (Free and up)
http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (Free and up)
http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpostfree/

Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall (~$25 and up)
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/

ZoneAlarm (Free and up)
http://snipurl.com/6ohg

You should find the right firewall for your situation in that
list and set it up.

Every firewall WILL require some maintenance. Essentially checking for
patches or upgrades (this goes for hardware and software solutions) is
the extent of this maintenance - you may also have to configure your
firewall to allow some traffic depending on your needs.

** Don't stack the software firewalls! Running more than one software
firewall will not make you safer - it would possibly negate some
protection you gleamed from one or the other firewall you run. It is
fine (and in many ways better) to have the software firewall as well
as a NAT router.


Now that you have some of the more basic things down..
Let's go through some of the steps you should take periodically to
maintain a healthy and stable windows computer. If you have not
done some of these things in the past, they may seem tedious - however,
they will become routine and some can even be scheduled.


Tip (6):
The system restore feature is a useful - first appearing in Windows
ME and then sticking around for Windows XP. It is only a useful
feature if you keep it maintained and use it to your advantage.
Remember that the system restore pretty much tells you in the name
what it protects which is 'system' files. Your documents, your
pictures, your stuff is NOT system files - so you should also look
into some backup solution.

Whenever you think about it (after doing a once-over on your machine
once a month or so would be optimal) - clear out your System Restore
and create a manual restoration point.

'Why?'

Too many times have I seen the system restore files go corrupt or get
a virus in them, meaning you could not or did not want to restore from
them. By clearing it out periodically you help prevent any corruption
from happening and you make sure you have at least one good "snapshot".
(*This, of course, will erase any previous restore point you have.*)

- Turn off System Restore.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405
- Reboot the Computer.
- Review the first bullet to turn on System Restore
- Make a Manual Restoration Point.
http://snipurl.com/68nx

That covers your system files, but doesn't do anything for the files
that you are REALLY worried about - yours! For that you need to look
into backups. You can either manually copy your important files, folders,
documents, spreadsheets, emails, contacts, pictures, drawings and so on
to an external location (CD/DVD - any disk of some sort, etc) or you can
use the backup tool that comes with Windows XP:

How To Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308422

Yes - you still need some sort of external media to store the results
on, but you could schedule the backup to occur when you are not around,
then burn the resultant data onto CD or DVD or something when you are
(while you do other things!)

Another option that came to my attention as of late:

Cobian Backup
http://www.educ.umu.se/~cobian/cobianbackup.htm

A lot of people have wondered about how to completely backup their system
so that they would not have to go through the trouble of a reinstall..
I'm going to voice my opinion here and say that it would be worthless to
do for MOST people. Unless you plan on periodically updating the image
backup of your system (remaking it) - then by the time you use it
(something goes wrong) - it will be so outdated as to be more trouble than
performing a full install of the operating system and all applications.

Having said my part against it, you can clone/backup your hard drive
completely using many methods - by far the simplest are using disk cloning
applications:

Symantec/Norton Ghost
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/

Acronis True Image
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage

BootItT NG
http://terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html


Tip (7):
You should sometimes look through the list of applications that are
installed on your computer. The list may surprise you. There are more
than likely things in there you know you never use - so why have them
there? There may even be things you know you did *not* install and
certainly do not use (maybe don't WANT to use.)

This web site should help you get started at looking through this list:

How to Uninstall Programs
http://snipurl.com/8v6b

How to change or remove a program in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307895

A word of warning - Do NOT uninstall anything you think you MIGHT need
in the future unless you have completed Tip (1) and have the installation
media and proper keys for use backed up somewhere safe!


Tip (8):
Patches and Updates!

This one cannot be stressed enough. It is SO simple, yet so neglected
by many people. It is really simple for the critical Microsoft patches!
Microsoft put in an AUTOMATED feature for you to utilize so that you do
NOT have to worry yourself about the patching of the Operating System:

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

However, not everyone wants to be a slave to automation, and that is
fine. Admittedly, I prefer this method on some of my more critical
systems.

Windows Update
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

Go there and scan your machine for updates. Always get the critical ones
as you see them. Write down the KB###### or Q###### you see when
selecting the updates and if you have trouble over the next few days,
go into your control panel (Add/Remove Programs), insure that the
'Show Updates' checkbox is checked and match up the latest numbers you
downloaded recently (since you started noticing an issue) and uninstall
them. If there was more than one (usually is), uninstall them one by one
with a few hours of use in between, to see if the problem returns.
Yes - the process is not perfect (updating) and can cause trouble like I
mentioned - but as you can see, the solution isn't that bad - and is
MUCH better than the alternatives.

Windows is not the only product you likely have on your PC. The
manufacturers of the other products usually have updates. New versions
of almost everything come out all the time - some are free, some are pay
and some you can only download if you are registered - but it is best
to check. Just go to their web pages and look under their support and
download sections. For example, for Microsoft Office you should visit:

Microsoft Office Updates
http://office.microsoft.com/
(and select 'Check for Updates' and/or 'Downloads' for more)

You also have hardware on your machine that requires drivers to interface
with the operating system. You have a video card that allows you to see on
your screen, a sound card that allows you to hear your PCs sound output and
so on. Visit those manufacturer web sites for the latest downloadable
drivers for your hardware/operating system. Always get the manufacturers'
hardware driver over any Microsoft offers. On the Windows Update site I
mentioned earlier, I suggest NOT getting their hardware drivers - no matter
how tempting.

How do you know what hardware you have in your computer? Break out the
invoice or if it is up and working now - take inventory:

Belarc Advisor
http://belarc.com/free_download.html

Once you know what you have, what next? Go get the latest driver for your
hardware/OS from the manufacturer's web page. For example, let's say you
have an NVidia chipset video card or ATI video card, perhaps a Creative
Labs sound card or C-Media chipset sound card...

NVidia Video Card Drivers
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

ATI Video Card Drivers
http://www.atitech.com/support/driver.html

Creative Labs Sound Device
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/

C-Media Sound Device
http://www.cmedia.com.tw/e_download_01.htm

Then install these drivers. Updated drivers are usually more stable and
may provide extra benefits/features that you really wished you had before.

As for Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP, Microsoft has made this
particular patch available in a number of ways. First, there is the
Windows Update web page above. Then there is a direct download site.

Direct Download of Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP
http://snipurl.com/8bqy

Order Windows XP Service Pack 2 on CD
http://snipurl.com/d41v

If all else fails - grab the full download above and try to use that.
In this case - consider yourself a 'IT professional or developer'.


Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like more:

( Good Comparison Page for AV software: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

AntiVir (Free and up)
http://www.free-av.com/

avast! (Free and up)
http://www.avast.com/

AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
http://free.grisoft.com/

eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up)
http://www.eset.com/products/products.htm

eTrust EZ Antivirus (~$29.95 and up)
http://ca.com/store/home/us/hp2/

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.kaspersky.com/products.html

McAfee VirusScan (~$11 and up)
http://www.mcafee.com/

Panda Antivirus Titanium (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/
(Free Online Scanner: http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/)

RAV AntiVirus Online Virus Scan (Free!)
http://www.ravantivirus.com/scan/

Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$11 and up)
http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_9xnt/

Trend Micro (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/personal.htm
(Free Online Scanner:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp)


Most of them have automatic update capabilities. You will have to
look into the features of the one you choose. Whatever one you finally
settle with - be SURE to keep it updated (I recommend at least daily) and
perform a full scan periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but a
full scan once a month at 4AM probably won't bother you.)


Tip (10):
The most rampant infestation at the current time concerns SPYWARE/ADWARE.
You need to eliminate it from your machine.

There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against
everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you
only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and
I recommend you use at least the first five.

First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are
people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install
spyware of their own! You need to avoid these:

Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

Also, you can always visit this site..
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
For more updated information.

Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..)
(If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the
LATEST version from the page given!)

Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up)
http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn )

Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!)
http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk )

Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!)
http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 )

SpywareBlaster (Free!)
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 )

IE-SPYAD2 (Free!)
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 )

CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!)
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract/cwshredder_download.html

Hijack This! (Free!)
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
(Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ )

ToolbarCop (Free!)
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Browser Security Tests (Free Tester)
http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/

Popup Tester (Free Tester)
http://www.popuptest.com/

The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.moosoft.com/

Sometimes you need to install the application and reboot into SAFE MODE in
order to thoroughly clean your computer. Many applications also have
(or are) immunization applications. Spybot Search and Destroy and
SpywareBlaster are two that currently do the best job at passively
protecting your system from malware. None of these programs (in these
editions) run in the background unless you TELL them to. The space they
take up and how easy they are to use greatly makes up for any inconvenience
you may be feeling.

Please notice that Windows XP SP2 does help stop popups as well.

Another option is to use an alternative Web browser. I suggest
'Mozilla Firefox', as it has some great features and is very easy to use:

Mozilla Firefox
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/


So your machine is pretty clean and up to date now. If you use the sections
above as a guide, it should stay that way as well! There are still a few
more things you can do to keep your machine running in top shape.


Tip (11):
You should periodically check your hard drive(s) for errors and defragment
them. Only defragment after you have cleaned up your machine of
outside parasites and never defragment as a solution to a quirkiness in
your system. It may help speed up your system, but it should be clean
before you do this. Do these things IN ORDER...

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848

I would personally perform the above steps at least once every three months.
For most people this should be sufficient, but if the difference you notice
afterwards is greater than you think it should be, lessen the time in
between its schedule.. If the difference you notice is negligible, you can
increase the time.


Tip (12):
SPAM! JUNK MAIL!
This one can get annoying, just like the rest. You get 50 emails in one
sitting and 2 of them you wanted. NICE! (Not.) What can you do? Well,
although there are services out there to help you, some email
servers/services that actually do lower your spam with features built into
their servers - I still like the methods that let you be the end-decision
maker on what is spam and what is not. I have a few products to suggest
to you, look at them and see if any of them suite your needs. Again, if
they don't, Google is free and available for your perusal.

SpamBayes (Free!)
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

Spamihilator (Free!)
http://www.spamihilator.com/

MailWasher
http://www.mailwasher.net/

As I said, those are not your only options, but are reliable ones I have
seen function for hundreds+ people.


Tip (13):
ADVANCED TIP! Only do this once you are comfortable under the hood of your
computer!

There are lots of services on your PC that are probably turned on by default
you don't use. Why have them on? Check out these web pages to see what all
of the services you might find on your computer are and set them according
to your personal needs. Be CAREFUL what you set to manual, and take heed
and write down as you change things! Also, don't expect a large performance
increase or anything - especially on today's 2+ GHz machines, however - I
look at each service you set to manual as one less service you have to worry
about someone exploiting.

Black Viper Service Configuration Tips
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

Configuring Services
http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

Task List Programs
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

Processes in Windows NT/2000/XP
http://www.reger24.de/prozesse/

There are also applications that AREN'T services that startup when you start
up the computer/logon. One of the better description on how to handle these
I have found here:

Startups
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php


If you follow the advice laid out above (and do some of your own research as
well, so you understand what you are doing) - your computer will stay fairly
stable and secure and you will have a more trouble-free system.
 
G

Guest

I got some good answers from most all you folks.
I have a slow dialup connection the best I can
do is about 4K BPS so I will not spend time
answering everyone.

THANKS to EVERYONE WHO ANSWERED.

Got a new problem now.
I set up group policies now most all the firewall
is grayed out and nothing I do will stop that
from happening. The next thing I will try
is to go into the registry and start deleting
keys under the firewall relating to group policies.
Wish me luck. :)

The firewall seems to be working it just lets me
do nothing at all . lol.
 
S

Steven L Umbach

DON'T delete the registry keys if you used Group Policy [available in XP Pro
only] to configure your firewall. Instead change the settings to "undefined"
and you should get back normal access. If you delete GP related registry
keys they will be replaced when Group Policy is edited again or a forced
refresh is done and you will have the same problem all over again. ---
Steve
 

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