Utter DVD confusion.

B

Bolshoy Huy

Is there any significant difference between DVD-R and DVD+R?
Do new DVD burners recognize all DVD formats?
My DVD player playes DVD+R, but not DVD-R. Also, a stand-alone
DVD burner could not read or burn CD-Rs.

Who are these DVDforum(DVD-R) & DVDalliance(DVD+R), and why do they
support 2 different formats when no one cares and blue ray and HD are
out?
Why are there no CD+Rs?

Whats the deal with speeds? I see all are 16x now. A spindle
of 100 DVD+Rs 4X is selling in NYC for $19.99; but 16X for $24.99.

Interestingly, my CD-R burner cannot burn CD-Rmusic, but the DVD burner
can.
 
R

Rod Speed

Bolshoy Huy said:
Is there any significant difference between DVD-R and DVD+R?
Yes.

Do new DVD burners recognize all DVD formats?

Yes on that question. Support for DVD-RAM varys,
and some will read that format but not write it too.

And the cheap ones dont handle the latest formats like Blueray either.
My DVD player playes DVD+R, but not DVD-R. Also,
a stand-alone DVD burner could not read or burn CD-Rs.

That isnt unusual, and its commonly seen with standalone DVD systems.
Who are these DVDforum(DVD-R) & DVDalliance(DVD+R),
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd

and why do they support 2 different formats

Because thats how things developed.
when no one cares and blue ray and HD are out?

Because thats how things developed.

And we are seeing that same terminally stupid format wars with blueray and HD too now.
Why are there no CD+Rs?

Because that terminal stupidity happened after that.
Whats the deal with speeds? I see all are 16x now.

No they arent. Maybe you mean the burners.
A spindle of 100 DVD+Rs 4X is selling in NYC for $19.99;

You can get those a lot cheaper than that.
but 16X for $24.99.

And that.
Interestingly, my CD-R burner cannot burn CD-Rmusic, but the DVD burner can.

Yeah, tho some DVD burners cant burn at the full speed the CDR media can do.
 
P

paulmd

Bolshoy said:
Is there any significant difference between DVD-R and DVD+R?


Some. Follow the "see also links"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R

Do new DVD burners recognize all DVD formats?
Most.

My DVD player playes DVD+R, but not DVD-R.

That happens sometimes. Newer ones tend to support more formats.
Also, a stand-alone
DVD burner could not read or burn CD-Rs.

You might consider looking for a firmware update.
Who are these DVDforum(DVD-R) & DVDalliance(DVD+R), and why do they
support 2 different formats when no one cares and blue ray and HD are
out?

The almighty dollar.
Why are there no CD+Rs?

The DVD+R format was developed in 2002.
The Cd-R format was developed in 1988. Perhaps the dvd+ people thought
the cd market settled.

Whats the deal with speeds?

Maximum burn rate, and different dyes. A 1xDVD rotates 3X faster than a
1X CD. CDR top out at about 52X before the disc wobbles too much to be
read properly. So don't expect much faster DVD drives.

I see all are 16x now. A spindle
of 100 DVD+Rs 4X is selling in NYC for $19.99; but 16X for $24.99.

Cause speed is a premium.
Interestingly, my CD-R burner cannot burn CD-Rmusic, but the DVD burner
can.

Again, look for a firmware update.
 
J

Joel

Bolshoy Huy said:
Is there any significant difference between DVD-R and DVD+R?

I beliebe most people (I do) use DVD-R, and I have seen few userswear to
shed their blood to fight the Holly DVD+R War
Do new DVD burners recognize all DVD formats?

Most if not all do
My DVD player playes DVD+R, but not DVD-R. Also, a stand-alone

That's strange. Wait for a second "Stand Alone" and "DVD Burner"... are
you talking about "Stand Alone DVD RECORDER"?

I know they both burn DVD but most people may mistaken as "PC DVD". I
don't own any stand alone DVD Recorder but I believe some model's

- DVD+R/+RW record only

- DVD-R/-RW record only

- Some model can Read/Write all formats including DVD-RAM etc..
DVD burner could not read or burn CD-Rs.

Odd for newer model, but could be possible that some model only accept
Pressed CDR (not home made CDR)
Who are these DVDforum(DVD-R) & DVDalliance(DVD+R), and why do they
support 2 different formats when no one cares and blue ray and HD are
out?
Why are there no CD+Rs?

Why? this should be the question we ask you WHY said:
Whats the deal with speeds? I see all are 16x now. A spindle
of 100 DVD+Rs 4X is selling in NYC for $19.99; but 16X for $24.99.

Interestingly, my CD-R burner cannot burn CD-Rmusic, but the DVD burner
can.

I sounds like you may need to spend extra time to read some text message
now and then, and GOOGLE may be your good friend there you can do lot of
researching.

It seems like you are confused and confusing many readers here. So, lets
break the whole problem into smaller pieces and tackle them one-by-one

- Stand Alone DVD Burner? Are you talking about the "Stand Alone DVD
*Recorder*" we see in the Electronics Department of many stores like
Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart, and even some grocery store etc?

I mean *not* PC CD/DVD burner which is a completely different beast

- CD-R burner can't not burn Audio CD? *If* it's a CD burner then I agree
with you that it's an interesting issue, *BUT* if it's "DVD RECORDER" then
it's another story

- DVD Recorder? *If* this is what you have, then now you under stand why
it's called "DVD Recorder" *not* DVD-Burner nor CD-Burner

- Yes, "Recording" does have some "burning" part involved

- No, "Burning" is TOASTING the media but *not* RECORDING

RECORDING - to record the current TV show (or frame by frame)

BURNING - to burn/toast/roast/touch <bg> the DATA to media

... that's why they don't call the stand alone "DVD Recorder" the same
name PC "CD/DVD Burner" (or they don't call DVD burner RECORDER even they
can record too.. if you try to capture the TV show from TV tuner card)
 

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