user accounts

[Armando]

Hi @all,

Where are XP file authorizations stored?
If I mount an hard disk, currently used in a PC, into another PC what
happens?
I think some troubles can occur if I remove the administrator GROUP from
the hard disk authorized groups/users list.

In other words if:
I remove administrators GROUP in the list of authorized users and groups
for hard disk C
And
I leave only the current administrator USER in the authorized users and
groups list (together with SYSTEM group)

what happens when I try to use the same hard disk as a slave one on
another system?
By adding an administrator account user with the same name&password will
I be able to access the (slave) hard disk d:?

Thank You!
Armando

 

[Malke]

Hi @all,

Where are XP file authorizations stored?
If I mount an hard disk, currently used in a PC, into another PC what
happens?
I think some troubles can occur if I remove the administrator GROUP from
the hard disk authorized groups/users list.

In other words if:
I remove administrators GROUP in the list of authorized users and groups
for hard disk C
And
I leave only the current administrator USER in the authorized users and
groups list (together with SYSTEM group)

what happens when I try to use the same hard disk as a slave one on
another system?
By adding an administrator account user with the same name&password will
I be able to access the (slave) hard disk d:?

What are you really trying to do? What is your end goal? If you attach a
hard drive from one computer to another, either by slaving it internally or
by putting it in a USB external enclosure, nothing dire will happen. You
will be able to transfer whatever data you want. You do not need to add any
users. You may need to take ownership of the files, but usually you will
not. Try it and find out.

Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP [Q308421] -
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421

How Do I Get the Security tab in Folder Properties? -
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_security_tab.htm

Leave the users and groups on your working XP install alone.

Malke

 

[Armando]

Hi Malke,

What are you really trying to do? What is your end goal? If you attach a
hard drive from one computer to another, either by slaving it internally or
by putting it in a USB external enclosure, nothing dire will happen. You
will be able to transfer whatever data you want. You do not need to add any
users. You may need to take ownership of the files, but usually you will
not. Try it and find out.

\\PC1\folderA shared by:
1. administrator adminPC2 (default PC2 administrator)
2. administrator adminPC3 (default PC3 administrator).

However \\PC1\C$ is shared by every administrator.
I want to prevent adminPC3 can share \\PC1\C$

C$ sharing can't be customized.

I could remove administrator group from the list of users/groups
authorized to access drive C.
I'll have then to add USER adminPC1 and USER adminPC2 to the list of
users/groups authorized to access drive C.

Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP [Q308421] -
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421

Ok, I can make the changes...
However I'm not sure about the owner group requirement.
Can I only set (for drive C, not for shared folderA) System group,
adminPC1 and adminPC2 as authorized users/groups?
Or do I need also to add CREATOR OWNER group so that "Taking Ownership
of a File or Folder in Windows XP [Q308421]" will be possible in the future?

Malke

Thank You and Best Regards
Armando

 

[Malke]

\\PC1\folderA shared by:
1. administrator adminPC2 (default PC2 administrator)
2. administrator adminPC3 (default PC3 administrator).

However \\PC1\C$ is shared by every administrator.
I want to prevent adminPC3 can share \\PC1\C$

C$ sharing can't be customized.

I could remove administrator group from the list of users/groups
authorized to access drive C.
I'll have then to add USER adminPC1 and USER adminPC2 to the list of
users/groups authorized to access drive C.

Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP [Q308421] -
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421

Ok, I can make the changes...
However I'm not sure about the owner group requirement.
Can I only set (for drive C, not for shared folderA) System group,
adminPC1 and adminPC2 as authorized users/groups?
Or do I need also to add CREATOR OWNER group so that "Taking Ownership
of a File or Folder in Windows XP [Q308421]" will be possible in the
future?

Frankly, I glazed over a bit during your explanation although that I see
this has nothing to do with putting a hard drive into another machine and
getting data from it as I originally interpreted your post.

Let's make this simple:

1. If you have XP Pro, you can create users and groups.
2. Create unique user names and passwords on each machine - *not* just
"Administrator" (which you shouldn't be using anyway).
3. Create matching user names and passwords on all machines that need to
share resources.
4. Set access permissions on the shares per user.

Example:

Machine A has Jane (password 1234) and Bob (password 5678)
Machine B has Jane, password 1234, Bob (password 5678)

Machine A has a shared folder that only Jane should be able to access. You
don't need to mess about with ownership - this will only get you in
trouble. Simply set the permissions on that share to only allow Jane. When
Bob tries to access the folder, he'll get denied.

As an aside, however, you really don't want to have people whom you are
going to restrict be administrators. In XP, any administrator can change
anything so in my above example, there's nothing preventing Bob for going
to Machine A and changing the permissions on that folder. You should make
your users Standard users instead.

How to disable simple file sharing and set permissions on a shared folder in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307874

How to set, view, change, or remove special permissions for files and
folders in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308419

Malke

 

[Armando]

Hi Malke,

Thank You for Your help.
I'll probably begin to frequently use limited users accounts.

Best Regards
Armando

 

[Malke]

Hi Malke,

Thank You for Your help.
I'll probably begin to frequently use limited users accounts.

You're very welcome, Armando. I'm sure you'll do splendidly.

Malke