Upgrading IE6...?

[N. Miller]

Three of them have 4GB SSD purchased just last year. All of them came
with 512kb of RAM, which I upgraded to 2GB. The RAM isn't the problem,
just the boot/system drive is too small for SP3. And there are millions
of these things out there.

Okay. So you are dealing with newer drives which haven't caught up in
capacity with the current state of mechanical drives. Should have said
something about that earlier.

Well most would agree with me and my decades worth of computer
experience.

For some values of "most" ...

And you have proved that you are totally ignorant outside of
your tiny world. You totally are clueless about the netbook craze and
appear to know nothing about SSD technology.

Until now, you have never mentioned "netbook", or "SSD". I am not ignorant,
but neither am I a mind reader. Are you?

Which some experts are claiming that will be used in half of the computers
sold two years from now. I personally can't wait. As I see no need for old
clunky and fragile 1970's technology used in our modern day computers.

I suppose, when SSDs catch up to mechanical drives in capacity. But I have
wads of fansubbed anime which would overwhelm those SSDs you have in your
computers. When I can get a 1 TB SSD for $150, then we'll see what pops. But
a 1 TB SSD will have plenty of room for SP3, yes? OTOH, a 4 GB SSD can only
hold a single series of 26 half hour episodes of anime, with no room at all
for the OS. Just one series, /Bamboo Blade/, takes up 4.32 GB on the disk.

Next time you whine about the lack of space, at least explain that you are
using what is, currently, cutting edge hardware. Stuff which really isn't on
the radar of the typical user. Yet. It's kind of rude to malign a person as
being ignorant without first explaining the reason one has a limitation.
Isn't it presumptuous to assume that, because you know something, everybody
else must also know it?

And isn't it, perhaps, overreaching to expect a current OS, designed for
current machine specs, to be able to fit a cutting edge piece of hardware
with lower storage capacity than antiques sold six years ago normally had?

 

[BillW50]

In N. Miller typed on Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:08:09 -0700:

Okay. So you are dealing with newer drives which haven't caught up in
capacity with the current state of mechanical drives. Should have said
something about that earlier.

Well about 6 months ago, they then had 1TB ones. They might have larger
ones now or at least will have soon. <wink> It is just the smaller ones
are dirt cheap. I have two 8GB and one 16GB one too. The 16GB one has
Windows7 installed on it.

For some values of "most" ...


Until now, you have never mentioned "netbook", or "SSD". I am not
ignorant, but neither am I a mind reader. Are you?

Well there are millions of these things out there. And you just can't
ignore them as a novelty anymore. And if it weren't for the netbook,
Microsoft would have stopped selling OEM licenses for Windows XP by now.
Although they made an exception for netbooks.

I suppose, when SSDs catch up to mechanical drives in capacity. But I
have wads of fansubbed anime which would overwhelm those SSDs you
have in your computers. When I can get a 1 TB SSD for $150, then
we'll see what pops. But a 1 TB SSD will have plenty of room for SP3,
yes? OTOH, a 4 GB SSD can only hold a single series of 26 half hour
episodes of anime, with no room at all for the OS. Just one series,
/Bamboo Blade/, takes up 4.32 GB on the disk.

Netbooks can and often have more than one drive. Usually the fastest and
smallest SSD drive holds your boot/system. A second SSD is usually a
larger, slower, and cheaper SSD usually for applications and some data.
Then they usually have a SD card slot too. Which acts as another drive.
So that is 3 drives we are up too. Now you can add external drives as
well. So space isn't tight at all except usually for the boot/system
drive.

Next time you whine about the lack of space, at least explain that
you are using what is, currently, cutting edge hardware. Stuff which
really isn't on the radar of the typical user. Yet. It's kind of rude
to malign a person as being ignorant without first explaining the
reason one has a limitation. Isn't it presumptuous to assume that,
because you know something, everybody else must also know it?

And isn't it, perhaps, overreaching to expect a current OS, designed
for current machine specs, to be able to fit a cutting edge piece of
hardware with lower storage capacity than antiques sold six years ago
normally had?

Oh I don't know Norman? I don't believe you can ignore millions of them
and I believe they have to be included. And if the experts are right,
the trip point will be in two years where more than half of new
computers will include SSD instead of old mechanical hard drives that
are not very portable at all.

 

[N. Miller]

Well there are millions of these things out there. And you just can't
ignore them as a novelty anymore. And if it weren't for the netbook,
Microsoft would have stopped selling OEM licenses for Windows XP by now.
Although they made an exception for netbooks.

There are hundreds of millions of computers with regular, mechanical HDDs
out there. Netbook with SSDs are still something of a niche. Interesting
that they even did that; make the exception for netbooks. Windows XP was
designed well before SSDs, and when typical HDDs included in computers were
at least 40 GB.

Netbooks can and often have more than one drive. Usually the fastest and
smallest SSD drive holds your boot/system. A second SSD is usually a
larger, slower, and cheaper SSD usually for applications and some data.
Then they usually have a SD card slot too. Which acts as another drive.
So that is 3 drives we are up too. Now you can add external drives as
well. So space isn't tight at all except usually for the boot/system
drive.

Except that the system/boot drive probably should be at least 20 GB if it is
going to hold an OS designed when the programmers had that much space to
work with.

Oh I don't know Norman? I don't believe you can ignore millions of them
and I believe they have to be included. And if the experts are right,
the trip point will be in two years where more than half of new
computers will include SSD instead of old mechanical hard drives that
are not very portable at all.

I expect that trip point will occur when you can get 40 GB SSDs for $40. I
had barely considered a netbook when I started thinking about getting a
laptop. I had not actually checked their specs. But, given how I'd use one,
I'll not be getting one until I can get something bigger then 4 GB for the
boot/system disk. Well; maybe, if I've decided to move over to Linux before
then.

In the meantime, I still say you were arguing from a position of special
knowledge (and withholding details that would have colored my responses, had
I known them), and a personal experience which doesn't match that of
hundreds of millions of ordinary mortals.

 

[Janetb]

Please note that my posts on 15/9 do not appear in the proper place in regard
to the other posts. Posts not present when I posted appear before mine, so
there seems to be a certain amount of confusion. I did not receive
notification of the posts which came after my last post.

Posts by the gentleman named Gordon demonstrate that he did has not read the
thread, so his posts are off-topic. There should not be a green check by his
first post, as it completely missed the point (as a result of not having read
the previous posts). Can it be removed?

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

MS Public Newsgroups are not moderated. Even you can't get your own posts
removed.

Threaded view of your thread in Google Groups archive:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...e6.browser/browse_frm/thread/63023d8e98511042

Gordon's 2 posts seem entirely appropriate and on-topic to me, given the
context of your earlier posts.

If you accessed this and other MS newsgroups in a newsreader (e.g., OE),
you'd find the thread much less confusing and easier to follow IMHO.

Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

To open this newsgroup in your default newsreader, click on the following
link:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser

NB: Those with IE7- and/or IE8-specific questions or comments should post in
IE General newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

 

[N. Miller]

Please note that my posts on 15/9 do not appear in the proper place in regard
to the other posts. Posts not present when I posted appear before mine, so
there seems to be a certain amount of confusion. I did not receive
notification of the posts which came after my last post.

Your posts all appear to be properly ordered as I am viewing them. However,
I am not using the "Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000" reader, which is a kind
of an "HTTP-to-NNTP" thingy which is more of a kludge than a proper news
reader.

| Posts by the gentleman named Gordon demonstrate that he did has not read the
| thread, so his posts are off-topic. There should not be a green check by his
| first post, as it completely missed the point (as a result of not having read
| the previous posts). Can it be removed?

The 'msnews.microsoft.com' news server does not honor cancels (and, in any
case, I don't think the "Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000" can send them), so
you just have to wait for the articles to age out of the system.