Upgrading from Xp Pro


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Guest

Hello, I am considering upgrading from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate 64bit. I am
running the following specs:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ 2.61GHz
2GB RAM
Plenty of HDD space.
GeForce 8800GTS 640MB Ram

My question is this: Can I purchase the upgrade package and go from pro to
vista or do I need to get the full version? Thanks in advance for your help.
 
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Kevin Weaver

Upgrade.

And you don't even need a OS If you buy the upgrade. I formatted a hard
drive and Installed the upgrade for vista with the newly full formatted disk
it never asked me to insert a older ver of windows to verify.
 
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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Yes, you can acquire the Upgrade version of Vista Ultimate and upgrade from
Windows XP Professional.
 
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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Oops, just realized, you cannot upgrade from Windows XP Professional x86
(which I assume you are running), Windows Vista Ultimate x64 requires a
clean installation.
 
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flambe

What you need is a better understanding of what you are about to do to
yourself.
Do not under any circumstances "upgrade" to Vista 64.
Install it as a dual boot.
It is the unusual user who finds Vista 64 stable enough for every day use,
has drivers for their peripherals and is compatible with their 32 bit
software. However Vista 64 is a worth experimenting with so you can see just
how good Win XP 32 really is.
Since you have invested in an 8800 I presume you play games.
Vista 64 bit is not compatible with high end gaming, period.
In fact Vista 32 is barely compatible with high end gaming with regard to
your 8800 and not compatible if you have a high end audio card rather than
whatever is on your motherboard.
 
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R. C. White

Hi, Chris.

It can be done, ;<} but it's tricky. :^{

You'll need the Retail Upgrade package, which will include the license to
upgrade from WinXP.

But there is NO upgrade path from 32-bit ANYTHING to 64-bit ANYTHING (or
vice-versa) because of hardware differences, requiring different drivers.
So, even with a license, you'll still need to do a "clean install" of the
64-bit Vista. The Vista Ultimate retail package includes two DVD-ROMs, one
for 32-bit and one for 64-bit, plus a single Product Key. You can choose to
boot from either DVD and use the single PK to activate the ONE you choose.

The problem with upgrading is that Vista does not use the previous method of
simply "looking at" a qualifying CD to verify your right to upgrade. It
must be able to see a qualifying Windows version already installed. You
need to insert the Vista DVD-ROM and run Setup.exe. When it gets to the
point, you choose to do a "Custom Install", which will reformat your WinXP
partition and clean install Vista in its place. Since your WinXP license is
no longer valid after you use it to qualify for the upgrade to Vista, you
are no longer licensed to use that WinXP, anyhow.

With a Full Retail package (not an upgrade), you still cannot simply
"upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit. You still need to do a clean install of
the 64-bit version. Or keep WinXP and install Vista alongside it, creating
a dual-boot system.

Read this KB article:
Installation choices for 64-bit consumer versions of Windows Vista
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/932795

Then backup all your data files (especially those family photos and emails
and your financial files) that exist nowhere else. Be sure that you have
64-bit drivers for your essential hardware, and installation media for all
your essential applications.

After you install Vista Ultimate x64, you can re-install your apps and
restore your data.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta 2 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 beta v.275)
 
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Guest

Thank you all for your responses thus far. I ended up purchasing the Vista
Ultimate 64 bit upgrade from microsoft.com using the digital locker. I will
be downloading it tonight through tomorrow. I see that it "lets" me do an
upgrade and keep my files, but I was thinking of doing a fresh install just
to be safe. Any further advice is greatly appreciated.
 
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Augustus

dzomlija said:
Flambe, you haven't tried gaming on Vista yet, have you? I've been
running Vista Ultimate x64 since February, and have found its gaming
performance to be superior to anything that Windows XP has to offer. On
the same hardware.

Better than XP64? Highly doubtful. I've tried both Vista64and XP64 is faster
in damn near anything.
 
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Lang Murphy

Chris said:
Hello, I am considering upgrading from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate 64bit. I
am
running the following specs:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ 2.61GHz
2GB RAM
Plenty of HDD space.
GeForce 8800GTS 640MB Ram

My question is this: Can I purchase the upgrade package and go from pro
to
vista or do I need to get the full version? Thanks in advance for your
help.


Must concur with flambe... why go x64? Unless you have an application that
is -known- to benefit from x64, then I think you're setting yourself up to
be disappointed. (Searching out x64 drivers should occur -before- making the
move to Vista x64. Repeat: BEFORE. Not AFTER.) And 2GB's RAM for x64? Hmm...
dunno if you'd need to upgrade RAM to truly benefit from x64, assuming one
has an app or apps that will actually benefit from running on an x64
platform.

That said, if all you intend to run are 32-bit apps, I would recommend
foregoing x64 and sticking with x86. Strongly recommend it.

Lang
 
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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Please burn that copy of Windows Vista to DVD I have read some issues with
Digital Locker, Chicken and Egg situations when it comes to installing and
migrating your library of software:
 
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Guest

I did exactly what you are trying to do and like others have mentioned you
don't need a previous edition CD to upggrade. I installed Vista Ultimate
Upgrade to a new hard drive and it never asked me for a CD. Not sure why.
Microsoft is not usually big on trusting people.

Initial set-up is a pain. Everything will tell you it is not complaint with
Vista. If there is no x64 version of whatever sotware you are trying to
install, I would just install it anyway and unintall if it doesn't work. I
did that and 99% of the software that said it was not x64 compliant still
worked. Although a bit buggy sometimes (eg. DVD Shrink crashes alot).
Norton/Symantec at the time didn't not have a Vista 64 version and would not
work at all but I found freeware AV called Avast! and it has worked like a
charm for me. I'm not sure if they do now because I think I even like it
better than Symantec and I haven't look into it. The Avast! freeware version
comes with 7 different "Blockers". The really crazy thing is, Live One Care
(a Microsoft product doesn't have a Vista 64 version and specifially says it
is not compatible with Vista 64. Go figure that [email protected]#$ out. Like with Syamantec
I haven't researched to see it they have a 64 version now.

Also, when running on-line games, make sure you right click the executable
for the game and select "Run as administrator". I play BF 2142 and I kept
getting kicked from servers and after mush research I found that was the fix
to the problem.

The only thing that really annoys me so far about Vista is the pop-up
everytime I click an executable to run a program I get "An unidentified
program wants to access your computer" and I have to click "Allow" or
"Cancel". Even though I have the "Run as Administrator" selected I still get
the pop-up. If anyone knows how to stop that pop-up please, please tell me
because It is really iritating me that I can't find a way to stop it.

Hope this helps.
 
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Guest

Hi Chris,

If you follow the instructions in my post 'Clean Install Windows Vista Using
Upgrade Media' in the newsgroup 'Windows Vista Installation and Setup' (dated
9/21/2007), you should be able to install a 64-bit upgrade version of Vista.
However, the sticking point for you might be the availability of 64-bit
drivers for your machine - check the hardware manufacturers website to find
out. If there are, you can download them in XP and save them to a removeable
drive - don't run them on XP as they are not compatible. Even then, you might
still have problems if the drivers are not signed. Vista 64-bit edition will
only accept signed drivers (there may be a way round this, but you will have
to 'Google' for it as I don't know). You could try the Microsoft site to see
if they have any suitable drivers, although this is not usually recommended
for hardware from manufacturers other than Microsoft themselves.
Dwarf
 
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NoStop

Chris said:
Hello, I am considering upgrading from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate 64bit. I
am running the following specs:
That isn't an "upgrade".
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ 2.61GHz
2GB RAM
Plenty of HDD space.
GeForce 8800GTS 640MB Ram
You obviously have more money than brains.
My question is this: Can I purchase the upgrade package and go from pro
to
vista or do I need to get the full version? Thanks in advance for your
help.

No prob.

Cheers.


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Guest

Thank you all for your help and advice. As it turned out, once I downloaded
the 64 bit upgrade version from MS to my digital locker, I couldn't install
it due to the XP 32 bit OS. So I tried burning it to disk, with no luck. I
ended up having to purchase the backup copy of the 64 bit upgrade DVD from MS
and now that it got here I have Vista Ultimate 64 installed. One thing I
haven't found so far is a free firewall program for vista 64. Has anyone
found any yet? Thanks again.
 
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