upgrade to vista

  • Thread starter Thread starter Guest
  • Start date Start date
Yes, by default Vista will not search that folder. For good reason. Why
search a folder the average user has no business messing with?

Click start - type index and make sure you launch Indexing Options. Then
click Modify. Then click Show All Locations.

Make sure you only add what you need. No sense in indexing more then you
need.
Click to expand...


The search works fine if I use the advanced options...it was not a big deal
I guess...
and you are right...for the average user I suppose the search function is
OK...
but as a person who is an experimentor ... Vista is a bit of a PITA...
but I need to get familiar with it since I do a lot of computer repairs and
must stay current
 
I am currently running XP Pro and have an upgrade to Vista Pro. What are the
advantages of upgrading to Vista over staying with XP Pro?
Click to expand...

You'll get an opportunity to try and iron out all the wrinkles that MS
left there for you. I advise you wait, at least, for SP1 - with all the
problems being voiced here, SP2 would probably be a better bet. In the
meantime, how about trying Ubuntu Linux for free.
 
The search works fine if I use the advanced options...it was not a big
deal
I guess...
Click to expand...

Ok, however if you add the folders you want to the indexing options then
those folders will be available with the "instant" search. Just FYI.

but as a person who is an experimentor ... Vista is a bit of a PITA...
Click to expand...

That's a common finding. You're not alone :) However, I challenge anyone
to use it for two months then re-evaluate that :)
 
Ok, however if you add the folders you want to the indexing options then
those folders will be available with the "instant" search. Just FYI.
Click to expand...

<snip>

thanks but the machine I'm doing my tests on is a bit underpowered so I'm
keeping indexing turned off...
That's a common finding. You're not alone :) However, I challenge anyone
to use it for two months then re-evaluate that :)
Click to expand...

I'll be building another test machine next month using much better junk-box
parts
and can then give Vista a more fair evaluation.

In all the years I've been into computers I use nothing but junk-box
parts...
and really need a better video card and CPU than I have now.
My present, 64meg video card just does not cut it under Vista
 
Well I have come unstuck about 3 times messing about with various machines
recently - not fatally of course but it might have been darned awkward had I
not has one or two spares for internet access. I try to assume that most
people do NOT have that sort of flexibility, or neighbors who like you
borrowing their cable at 3 am :)

I now have machines with both IDE and SATA drives in slide mounts and that
is very handy, both to protect things and deliberately screw things up :)

Dual boot is handy but it is NOT as easy as two separate install when stuff
hits the fan :)

Charlie
 
Thank you

Justin said:
Collaborated from this NG (mostly Paul Smith):

1) New fonts, much easier on the eyes.
2) Restore previous versions of files (volume shadow copies).
3) Far better security, user rights being used, address space randomization
on boot etc.
4) UI rendered through DirectX (no tearing windows anymore when you drag em
around!)
5) Search, being able to save search results as virtual folders, network
searching.
6) Offline files that take seconds to sync, and does it without annoying
you.
7) Windows Mail has these groups all set to go. 8-)
8) Diagnostics, loads of them can keep you busy for ages.
9) IPv6 and IPv6 over IPv4, brand new network stack, makes communicating
behind a NAT easier.
10) New faster audio stack.
11) New driver model, puts more drivers into user mode so they don't bring
down the system if they crash.
12) Ad Hoc networking support, in Meeting Space and available to 3rd
parties.
13) Photo Gallery, plus image tagging that isn't in a separate database but
stored in the files themselves so you don't need to retag them on different
machines.
14) Networking is easy to set up now.
15) Parental Controls, great for locking down what your parents (or
children) can break on their systems and for seeing what they've been up to.
16) Multiple clocks.
17) Sidebar.
18) Superfetch pages applications into memory so they start up instantly,
ReadyBoost and ReadyDrive too.
19) Speech recognition now built in.
20) Tablet features now built in, you can even use a regular drawing tablet
to unlock the hand writing recognition and all that.
21) Instant search feature. Find files in a flash.
22) WinPE 2.0 (based on Vista) allows hot plug n' play of USB devices (among
other improvements over previous versions of PE)
23) Windows Easy Transfer
24) New media tools like DVD maker, etc.
25) Parental controls.

Before upgrading, you need to make sure you have proper drivers for ALL your
hardware. Unless you plan on buying a new machine. Either way, if you need
help with any of that, just holler!
Click to expand...
 
Thank you

Charlie Tame said:
At this time possibly none, so before you try it make sure you have your
original XP install media and key numbers or better still get a new hard
drive, install XP on it (With the original drive completely removed) and
then upgrade the new install to Vista.

Why go to this trouble? Well, some of your software may not work under
Vista, some of your hardware might need you to go hunting for drivers or
need to be replaced, or there might be something wrong with the present XP
install that just hasn't come to light yet but will do when making the
update.

Over cautious? Maybe but I have been caught in traps before and it's really
annoying when such things happen and for $100 could have been totally
avoided.

Do not rely on anything that tells you your hardware is "Compatible", it may
be so and still not work and you end up with an expensive desk ornament.
Please do not let this put you off but consider buying something like
"Acronis" and a new (Bigger) drive and "Clone" your XP drive first, then
completely remove it and work with the image. That way if Vista doesn't like
something or just doesn't work you buy time to locate and obtain anything
you need to try again. As you get settled with Vista the spare drive can be
re used for storage or better yet to keep onboing backups.

Charlie
Click to expand...
 
Justin,

Thanks for a very comprehensive answer to my question. One more, in reading
the responses, in your opinion, are the rewards of upgrading to Vista greater
than the problems with a new os, or would it better as on person suggested to
wait until SP1 or 2.

Thank you for taking the time.

Alan
 
thank you

ray said:
You'll get an opportunity to try and iron out all the wrinkles that MS
left there for you. I advise you wait, at least, for SP1 - with all the
problems being voiced here, SP2 would probably be a better bet. In the
meantime, how about trying Ubuntu Linux for free.
Click to expand...
 
I do not agree with the comments claiming to wait until SP1 or SP2. Those
claims have no merit as there is no factual or known data to back them up.
SP1 will be a collection of updates that will have already been available
prior to it's release and the claim that someone will need 100% of all
updates for their machine is ignorant.

Now watch the comment flood in :)

At this point in time, it is true that drivers are minimal. The only way
Vista is going to work properly is if you have hardware that already has
"decent" driver support. Even then you need to deal with the fact that not
everyone has their applications upgraded to support Vista.

With that said, it's possible to upgrade and not have any problems. So the
rewards are greater, if in fact anything on that list interests you.

To move forward we would need to know about your computer. Also, we would
need to know about the different types of applications you would need to
use.

I you want I can help you to qualify your machine for Vista. I'd be glad to
help.

I'd need to know:
1. Desktop or Laptop?
2. Brand name model?
3. If plain wrap then all the specs of your hardware. Mainboard, Video car,
sound card....
4. What applications do you need?
 
Justin said:
At this point in time, it is true that drivers are minimal. The only way
Vista is going to work properly is if you have hardware that already has
"decent" driver support. Even then you need to deal with the fact that not
everyone has their applications upgraded to support Vista.
Click to expand...

In other words, unless you buy a new PC with VISTA installed, there's no
guarantee that it will work AT ALL.
 
David Morgan (MAMS) said:
In other words, unless you buy a new PC with VISTA installed, there's no
guarantee that it will work AT ALL.
Click to expand...

Absolutely! I doubt anyone guarantees self modified work to a consumer
product.
 
David Morgan (MAMS) said:
In other words, unless you buy a new PC with VISTA installed, there's no
guarantee that it will work AT ALL.
Click to expand...

A user would more than likely experience fewer problems, but no
guarantees. We've had several users post in this forum that they
just bought a new PC with Vista and they have experienced issues, too.
Of course, if it's new and the problem is serious, I'd tell them to take it
or send it back from where they got it ASAP.

It is a shame here we are in 2007, Vista has been in development for so
long, and supposedly billions of dollars spent on it, and the problems are the
same old same old. Even with the highly touted new image based install, "more"
driver support, and an "unprecedented" beta testing stage.
I know there were similar problems going from Win98 to WinXP. But, at least,
Microsoft could say then, that going from 98 to XP was revolutionary and be
believed. It was true. I could easily forgive WinXP for not having some driver,
after all, XP used a totally different code base than 98. Vista and XP are related.

Overall, for me, Vista is fine and stable. But, I sure was expecting more than
just "fine".


-Michael
 
Thank you

see below for the answers

Justin said:
I do not agree with the comments claiming to wait until SP1 or SP2. Those
claims have no merit as there is no factual or known data to back them up.
SP1 will be a collection of updates that will have already been available
prior to it's release and the claim that someone will need 100% of all
updates for their machine is ignorant.

Now watch the comment flood in :)

At this point in time, it is true that drivers are minimal. The only way
Vista is going to work properly is if you have hardware that already has
"decent" driver support. Even then you need to deal with the fact that not
everyone has their applications upgraded to support Vista.

With that said, it's possible to upgrade and not have any problems. So the
rewards are greater, if in fact anything on that list interests you.

To move forward we would need to know about your computer. Also, we would
need to know about the different types of applications you would need to
use.

I you want I can help you to qualify your machine for Vista. I'd be glad to
help.

I'd need to know:
1. Desktop or Laptop?
Desktop

2. Brand name model?
Click to expand...

Dell Dimension 9200, 2G ram Intel Core2 [email protected]. When I purchasedthe
computer, it was Vista ready. Video card NVidia GForce 7300 LE
3. If plain wrap then all the specs of your hardware. Mainboard, Video car,
sound card....
4. What applications do you need?
Click to expand...

Just basic program, games for the kids, Microsoft office 2003 (upgrading to
2007)
 
Alan said:
Dell Dimension 9200, 2G ram Intel Core2 [email protected]. When I
purchasedthe
computer, it was Vista ready. Video card NVidia GForce 7300 LE
Click to expand...

Dell oks Vista Ultimate for this system so it was certainly built with Vista
in mind. You should have no problems with your video card and you have
plenty of memory. I did notice that Vista rates your card at 2.7 which
isn't the best score for games. However, as long as you do not try to push
your games to the max with all features turned on and super high
resolutions, you'll be fine.

There is one problem I found with your system however, you should be able to
stay clear of it. There is a driver problem with your RAID controller. It
causes frequent lock ups and crashing. Dell has told customers to TURN RAID
OFF until a new driver has been released. However, as long as you didn't
purchase TWO drives with your system, RAID should already be turned off.
You'll want to make sure this is true in your BIOS. Of course if you
purchased TWO drives then you'll want to change this configuration.
Just basic program, games for the kids, Microsoft office 2003 (upgrading
to
2007)
Click to expand...

Office 2003 and 2007 are fine. For the games, I would check with each
developer and make sure they give Vista a thumbs up or Google the game and
to if people are having any issues with it:

Google: "Doom 3" Vista

Before upgrading it is always recommended to backup your data. Backup
everything! Did you get a CD burner? Burn everything you need to CD(s).

I would also recommend downloading the Upgrade Advisor. It it'll help you
determine if you have any apps that are a known problem with Vista. Key
word there is HELP, it's not perfect and it doesn't know "everything". If
it doesn't mention a specific app that doesn’t mean the app will work 100%.
The only advise you should walk away with after using the adviser is to note
the problems it does mention.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx

Last, make sure you have a way to restore your 9200 to factory default. You
should have a restore CD or a restore partition just in case something does
go wrong with the upgrade. Honestly, that's the one thing I don't like with
your scenario. Upgrading instead of a clean install can develop problems.
A clean new install is more times then not, recommended. However, that's
why we make backups!

If you have any further questions let us know.
 
Justin,

Thank you very much. You have been very helpful and informative. Each time
you have answered my questions very specifically and back up your statements
with facts that are verifiable rather than opinion.

Alan
 
Alan said:
Justin,

Thank you very much. You have been very helpful and informative. Each
time
you have answered my questions very specifically and back up your
statements
with facts that are verifiable rather than opinion.

Alan
Click to expand...

You are very welcome! Glad I could help.
 
Alan said:
Justin,

Thank you very much. You have been very helpful and informative. Each
time
you have answered my questions very specifically and back up your
statements
with facts that are verifiable rather than opinion.

Alan
Click to expand...


hey Justin, posting under a different name isn't foolin anybody
ROFL
 
Back
Top