Upgrade Hell -- XP now detects IDE drives as SCSI through RAID controller

[Jack]

Recently upgraded from Intel 845 IDE board to Intel 915 SATA board with
one IDE channel. I know it's not much but the MB, CPU and memory are
faster and it makes a difference and I'm a gearhead, what can I say.

The problem is that I have to run my CD burner and extra HDs on a
Silicon Image 0680 ATA-133 PCI Medley Raid Controller, which used to
work fine on the 845 board and now the burner and any IDE HDs are
detected by XP as SCSI devices. This controller worked fine on the 845
board but on then 915 board IDE devices are detected as SCSI devices and
don't work as they should. HDs shows no data and the burner will read
but not write.

I have searched and read but the best I can come up with is that is just
the way it goes with RAID/IDE controllers. I was counting on this PCI
RAID/IDE controller card to run the burner and other HDs.

I would hope that there might be a controller card available that would
not be detected by XP as a SCSI device.

The onboard IDE channel works fine.

 

[Rod Speed]

Recently upgraded from Intel 845 IDE board to Intel 915 SATA board
with one IDE channel. I know it's not much but the MB, CPU and memory
are faster and it makes a difference and I'm a gearhead, what can I say.

The problem is that I have to run my CD burner and extra HDs on a
Silicon Image 0680 ATA-133 PCI Medley Raid Controller, which used
to work fine on the 845 board and now the burner and any IDE HDs are
detected by XP as SCSI devices. This controller worked fine on the 845
board but on then 915 board IDE devices are detected as SCSI devices
and don't work as they should. HDs shows no data and the burner will
read but not write.

You should be able to put the burner on the onboard IDE and have it work fine there.

I have searched and read but the best I can come up with is that is
just the way it goes with RAID/IDE controllers. I was counting on
this PCI RAID/IDE controller card to run the burner and other HDs.

You should be able to run the other HDs using SATA/IDE converters
that go on the back of the IDE drives if you really must have them.

I would hope that there might be a controller card available
that would not be detected by XP as a SCSI device.

The onboard IDE channel works fine.

Presumably you have the boot drive on it. It should handle both that and the
burner fine and the boot drive should work fine with a SATA/IDE converter too.

 

[Jack]

You should be able to put the burner on the onboard IDE and have it work fine there.

You are absolutely right!

You should be able to run the other HDs using SATA/IDE converters
that go on the back of the IDE drives if you really must have them.



Presumably you have the boot drive on it. It should handle both that and the
burner fine and the boot drive should work fine with a SATA/IDE converter too.

I have 5 HDs and a burner

I ended up buying 4 SATA/IDE converters on eBay for $9.52, delivered

Problem solved... (fingers crossed)

 

[Rod Speed]

Jack wrote

Rod Speed wrote

You are absolutely right!

I have 5 HDs and a burner

Makes a lot of sense to just replace those 5HDs with a single modern SATA
with hard drives now so cheap.

I ended up buying 4 SATA/IDE converters on eBay for $9.52, delivered

Problem solved... (fingers crossed)

Sounds like they havent arrived yet. They should work fine.

 

[larry moe 'n curly]

The problem is that I have to run my CD burner and extra HDs on a
Silicon Image 0680 ATA-133 PCI Medley Raid Controller, which used to
work fine on the 845 board and now the burner and any IDE HDs are
detected by XP as SCSI devices. This controller worked fine on the 845
board but on then 915 board IDE devices are detected as SCSI devices and
don't work as they should. HDs shows no data and the burner will read
but not write.

I have searched and read but the best I can come up with is that is just
the way it goes with RAID/IDE controllers. I was counting on this PCI
RAID/IDE controller card to run the burner and other HDs.

I would hope that there might be a controller card available that would
not be detected by XP as a SCSI device.

The onboard IDE channel works fine.

I had problems with a 680 card and some mobos, one an ECS GeForce6100M-
M, where I think the solution was to turn off the RAID function of the
mobo's PATA IDE controller. With another mobo, switching the 680 from
a RAID BIOS to a non-RAID version helped.

If you get SATA-PATA converters, the ones based on Marvell chips seem
to work well. I have a 2-way converter with a Sun Plus chip, and it's
fine with PATA hard drives, doesn't work at all with PATA optical
drives, and is unreliable with SATA hard drives (causes a UDMA error
to be logged permanently in the drive's SMART when scanned with
HDAT2). I didn't try it with SATA optical drives.

 

[GMAN]

Jack wrote
fine there.


Makes a lot of sense to just replace those 5HDs with a single modern SATA
with hard drives now so cheap.

Agreed, 2TB SATA drives are the new entry level especially when you can get
them from Newegg and the like all the time for $69 USD

 

[Jack]

I had problems with a 680 card and some mobos, one an ECS GeForce6100M-
M, where I think the solution was to turn off the RAID function of the
mobo's PATA IDE controller. With another mobo, switching the 680 from
a RAID BIOS to a non-RAID version helped.

If you get SATA-PATA converters, the ones based on Marvell chips seem
to work well. I have a 2-way converter with a Sun Plus chip, and it's
fine with PATA hard drives, doesn't work at all with PATA optical
drives, and is unreliable with SATA hard drives (causes a UDMA error
to be logged permanently in the drive's SMART when scanned with
HDAT2). I didn't try it with SATA optical drives.

Hi, larry

Well, after all is said and done the controller card appears to be
functioning properly. The CD burner is fully functional as are the HDs.
A combination of uninstalling and reinstalling software and devices, and
allowing Windows Update to update the controller drivers, and god knows
what else, seems to have done the trick.

I had tried disabling the MB RAID in the BIOS and that didn't have any
effect. I tried to reflash the BIOS on the 680 card, but the memory chip
was not among those that could be flashed.

On top of all that, eBay and PayPal seem to have lost my $9.52 payment
to the Hong Kong seller of the PATA to SATA adapters and I had to talk
to "Lisa" in Bangladesh to get it straightened out. That always fun. I
love South East Asian tech support. If the adapters ever get here I will
report back as to their type and effectiveness.

whew...

 

[Eric Gisin]

XP has always listed RAID cards as SCSI. Disable the RAID feature if possible.
IDE RAID drivers generally don't support ATAPI devices.