unable to share XP home resources from XP pro

[Charlie Hart]

I have 2 PCs on a linksys router. From the xp pro pc I can ping the
router & get out on the internet, but I cannot ping the xp home pc.
From the xp home pc I can ping the pro pc. I am trying to share a
printer that is on the xp home pc, but the pro pc can't see it (or any
shared folders on the home pc). I have firewall disabled.

The xp pro pc replaced a 2000 pc which could share the home pc
resources, so I feel that it is something in the xp pro pc. Any ideas
where to look?
thanks...charlie

 

[Robert L [MS-MVP]]

make sure not firewall running on the LAN.

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[Jack]

Hi
May be this can Help: http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

 

[Chuck]

I have 2 PCs on a linksys router. From the xp pro pc I can ping the
router & get out on the internet, but I cannot ping the xp home pc.
From the xp home pc I can ping the pro pc. I am trying to share a
printer that is on the xp home pc, but the pro pc can't see it (or any
shared folders on the home pc). I have firewall disabled.

The xp pro pc replaced a 2000 pc which could share the home pc
resources, so I feel that it is something in the xp pro pc. Any ideas
where to look?
thanks...charlie

Charlie,

On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Home
and Pro mixed, you need to have SFS properly set.

With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel
- Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

With XP Pro, if you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure
that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
"lusrmgr.msc"), and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers. If
"Classic", setup and use a common non-Guest account, with identical, non-blank,
password on all computers.

For XP Home, OR for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled (for XP Pro, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
"lusrmgr.msc")), on each computer.

What firewall did you disable? Some third party firewalls have to be un
installed, or properly configured - they don't react properly to being disabled,
and continue to cause problems.

From each computer, test connectivity:
1) Ping the other by name.
2) Ping the other by ip address.
3) Ping itself by name.
4) Ping itself by ip address.
5) Ping 127.0.0.1.
6) Ping the router.
Report success / failure of each test (12 tests total).

From each computer, test shares visibility (use actual name / address of each
computer as appropriate):
Start - Run then:
1) \\ThisComputerByName
2) \\ThisComputerByIPAddress
3) \\OtherComputerByName
4) \\OtherComputerByIPAddress
Report visibility of shares / error displayed in each test (8 tests total).

And Charlie, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address
mining viruses. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a
bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the
internet - read this article.
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Charlie]

Charlie,

On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Home
and Pro mixed, you need to have SFS properly set.

With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel
- Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

With XP Pro, if you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure
that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
"lusrmgr.msc"), and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers. If
"Classic", setup and use a common non-Guest account, with identical, non-blank,
password on all computers.

For XP Home, OR for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled (for XP Pro, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
"lusrmgr.msc")), on each computer.

What firewall did you disable? Some third party firewalls have to be un
installed, or properly configured - they don't react properly to being disabled,
and continue to cause problems.

From each computer, test connectivity:
1) Ping the other by name.
2) Ping the other by ip address.
3) Ping itself by name.
4) Ping itself by ip address.
5) Ping 127.0.0.1.
6) Ping the router.
Report success / failure of each test (12 tests total).

From each computer, test shares visibility (use actual name / address of each
computer as appropriate):
Start - Run then:
1) \\ThisComputerByName
2) \\ThisComputerByIPAddress
3) \\OtherComputerByName
4) \\OtherComputerByIPAddress
Report visibility of shares / error displayed in each test (8 tests total).

Sorry it took a while but work has been pressing.
I checked/changed settings as advised above. From both machines I can
ping the router, can ping themselves, and can ping 127.0.0.1. (what is
this address). I cannot ping the other.
From home when I try to ping pro, I get 'could not find host' msg.
From pro when I try to ping home by name, I get 'Pinging home-xp
[192.168.1.103...' but it times out.
Trying to use run gives network address not found.
I should add that the pro machine is set up as a machine on my wife's
work domain, and the home is set up on a home workgroup. This didn't
seem to be a problem when she had 2000.

And Charlie, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address
mining viruses. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a
bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the
internet - read this article.
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm

I looked at this but how do I mangle my email when google plus it in
automagically??

charlie

 

[Chuck]

Sorry it took a while but work has been pressing.
I checked/changed settings as advised above. From both machines I can
ping the router, can ping themselves, and can ping 127.0.0.1. (what is
this address). I cannot ping the other.

127.0.0.1 is the internal loopback adapter. If the network card, or its
drivers, are a problem, the ip address assigned to the card will not ping
successfully, but this address should ping successfully.

From home when I try to ping pro, I get 'could not find host' msg.
From pro when I try to ping home by name, I get 'Pinging home-xp
[192.168.1.103...' but it times out.
Trying to use run gives network address not found.

This sure sounds like a firewall problem. Or a hardware / driver problem. Is
this XP SP1 or SP2?

I should add that the pro machine is set up as a machine on my wife's
work domain, and the home is set up on a home workgroup. This didn't
seem to be a problem when she had 2000.

How about some background on this XP Pro computer. Who converted it from Win2K
to WinXP? You or the admins for your wife's domain? Is this a laptop, or a VPN
relationship?

Please provide ipconfig information for both computers - maybe a clue there.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your post.

I looked at this but how do I mangle my email when google plus it in
automagically??

Google. %-} They sure don't think about protecting their clients.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Charlie]

Is this XP SP1 or SP2? Both are SP1
to be a problem when she had 2000.

How about some background on this XP Pro computer. Who converted it
from Win2K
to WinXP? You or the admins for your wife's domain? Is this a
laptop, or a VPN relationship?
The pro is a new laptop with pro installed. I just mentioned the win2k
to indicate that I used to be able to make this work.

Here is the ipconfig iinfo - first home and then pro.


HOME HOME HOME
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CHARLIE-HP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI
Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-18-5F-EC-BA
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.103
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.25.5.50
24.25.4.106
24.25.4.107
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, September 05, 2004
4:15:12 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, September 06, 2004
4:15:12 PM


PRO PRO PRO


Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : 99y5oc6

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ibm.com



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless LAN
2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-28-6F-91

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.25.5.50

24.25.4.106

24.25.4.107

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, September 05, 2004
4:05:10 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, September 06, 2004
4:05:10 PM



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT
Mobile Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-60-B0-50-04

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.25.5.50

24.25.4.106

24.25.4.107

Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 9.37.176.37

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, September 05, 2004
4:05:06 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, September 06, 2004
4:05:06 PM



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:



Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com Megahertz LAN PC Card
(589E) (Ethernet)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-04-CC-09-9B



Ethernet adapter AGN Virtual Network Adapter:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : ibm.com

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : AGN Virtual Network
Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-01

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 9.65.237.74

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 9.65.237.74

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 9.0.6.1

9.0.7.1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, September 05, 2004
4:06:43 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 18, 2038
11:14:07 PM

 

[Chuck]

Is this XP SP1 or SP2? Both are SP1
to be a problem when she had 2000.

How about some background on this XP Pro computer. Who converted it
from Win2K
to WinXP? You or the admins for your wife's domain? Is this a
laptop, or a VPN relationship?
The pro is a new laptop with pro installed. I just mentioned the win2k
to indicate that I used to be able to make this work.

Here is the ipconfig iinfo - first home and then pro.

Charlie,

Does the XP Pro computer work OK in her work domain? Does she share resources
from it to her colleagues there? Can she ping both ways there? What operating
system is used there?

You ask about the differences between Win2K and WinXP. One of the first that
comes to mind is the Internet Connection Firewall (SP1) / Windows Firewall
(SP2), that is included in XP. Both can be configured to block pings.

There are three possible results from pinging.
1) The ping by name may be successful ("Reply from...").
2) The ping by name may be unsuccessful ("Unknown host" / "..could not find
host"), but the ping by ip address may be successful ("Reply from...").
3) The ping by name and by ip address may be unsuccessful ("Request timed
out").

With two computers in question, pinging A from B, then B from A, in all
combinations, helps further to identify problems. Your problems appear to be
asymmetrical.
- Pinging 99y5oc6 from CHARLIE-HP fails with a name resolution problem ("could
not find host").
- Pinging CHARLIE-HP from 99y5oc6 fails with a time-out.

The IPConfig for both computers look normal. Both show Hybrid Node Type, which
makes a name resolution problem unlikely. Name resolution runs at a higher
level than ping. See these articles for further discussion:
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177>
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053>

Is this a wired, or wireless connection from each computer to the router? If
both are wired, eliminate a possible networking hardware problem. Swap router
port / network cable between the two, repeat tests, see if problem is exactly
the same.

What firewall did you disable? Some third party firewalls have to be un
installed, or properly configured - they don't react properly to being disabled,
and continue to cause problems. In asymmetrical pinging problems, many that
I've dealt with were caused by misconfigured firewalls.

Looking at IPConfigs further, I see one remote possibility for confusion. Your
wife's computer has four LAN connections, two have ip address etc apparently
assigned by your router. When you pinged 99y5oc6 by name from itself, and then
by ip address from CHARLIE-HP, which ip address was used in each ping?

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Charlie Hart]

I am happy and embarassed to repoprt I found the problem. For some
reason the firewall was turned on on the home machine lan connection.
I don't remember turning this on and am not sure that some
maintenenace may have caused it. It any event, turning it off allowed
me to access the printer and all is now working. Sorry for all the
misleading posts - thanks for your assistance.

 

[Chuck]

I am happy and embarassed to repoprt I found the problem. For some
reason the firewall was turned on on the home machine lan connection.
I don't remember turning this on and am not sure that some
maintenenace may have caused it. It any event, turning it off allowed
me to access the printer and all is now working. Sorry for all the
misleading posts - thanks for your assistance.

HeHe. Another firewall caused problem.

Thanks for the update, Charlie.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.