two web-based news reader warts

[Guest]

A newbie to the Community Newgroups posted a Windows 2000 Prof workstation
question to the XP General group using the web newsgroup reader because he
could not find the microsoft.public.win2000........... groups associated with
the win2k workstation in the navigation pane under English - Windows -
Windows (older versions). The win2k workstation type groups used to display
in the navigation pane, so could someone fix that? It is not terribly
intuitive to have to browse into the win2k server groups for a workstation
question.

A second annoyance...

When clicking on the link in the email notification of a thread update, it
properly or improperly takes you directly to the thread. However, you are not
signed in, so when you click 'reply' you are taken to the sign in page.
However, after signing in, one is kicked back out the the home newsgroup
page (http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx). Then you have to
click on the emailed link again, or use other means to get back to the thread
so that you can again click 'reply' and post.

I had reported this second issue once before, and it had been fixed, but the
same usability wart is back. Since the link in the notification says 'read
the response' logging in prior to reading the update would not seem to be
required, but it would seem trivial to return to the thread after logging in
- at least it had been working that way after I reported this the first time,
and this is the way that other web-based forum/group readers do it.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000

Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives.

Do yourself a favor and setup a real newsreader.

Outlook Express came free with XP.

You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader sooner.

MICROSOFT PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS
[[There are many valuable newsgroups on the msnews.microsoft.com server, on
nearly every available topic and in many different languages. Clicking the
links below will automatically create any necessary account configuration in
Outlook Express and take you directly to the newsgroup you have selected -
no complicated technical configurations are needed!]]
http://aumha.org/nntp.htm

Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/directory/worldwide/en-gb/newsout.asp

Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Getting News from Newsgroups
Ignore this part ->> Access a newsgroup right from the Web.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp

Set Up Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx

Outlook Express newsgroups 101
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx

Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[Guest]

FYI, I had/have been asked by other MVPs to report problems with the
web-based news reader...

X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000

Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives.

Do yourself a favor and setup a real newsreader.

Outlook Express came free with XP.

You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader sooner.

MICROSOFT PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS
[[There are many valuable newsgroups on the msnews.microsoft.com server, on
nearly every available topic and in many different languages. Clicking the
links below will automatically create any necessary account configuration in
Outlook Express and take you directly to the newsgroup you have selected -
no complicated technical configurations are needed!]]
http://aumha.org/nntp.htm

Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/directory/worldwide/en-gb/newsout.asp

Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Getting News from Newsgroups
Ignore this part ->> Access a newsgroup right from the Web.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp

Set Up Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx

Outlook Express newsgroups 101
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx

Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

A newbie to the Community Newgroups posted a Windows 2000 Prof workstation
question to the XP General group using the web newsgroup reader because he
could not find the microsoft.public.win2000........... groups associated
with the win2k workstation in the navigation pane under English - Windows
- Windows (older versions). The win2k workstation type groups used to
display in the navigation pane, so could someone fix that? It is not
terribly intuitive to have to browse into the win2k server groups for a
workstation question.

A second annoyance...

When clicking on the link in the email notification of a thread update, it
properly or improperly takes you directly to the thread. However, you are
not signed in, so when you click 'reply' you are taken to the sign in
page. However, after signing in, one is kicked back out the the home
newsgroup page (http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx).
Then you have to click on the emailed link again, or use other means to
get back to the thread so that you can again click 'reply' and post.

I had reported this second issue once before, and it had been fixed, but
the same usability wart is back. Since the link in the notification says
'read the response' logging in prior to reading the update would not seem
to be required, but it would seem trivial to return to the thread after
logging in - at least it had been working that way after I reported this
the first time, and this is the way that other web-based forum/group
readers do it.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Knock yourself out. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

FYI, I had/have been asked by other MVPs to report problems with the
web-based news reader...

X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000

Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives.

Do yourself a favor and setup a real newsreader.

Outlook Express came free with XP.

You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader sooner.

MICROSOFT PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS
[[There are many valuable newsgroups on the msnews.microsoft.com server,
on nearly every available topic and in many different languages.
Clicking the links below will automatically create any necessary account
configuration in Outlook Express and take you directly to the newsgroup
you have selected - no complicated technical configurations are needed!]]
http://aumha.org/nntp.htm

Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/directory/worldwide/en-gb/newsout.asp

Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Getting News from Newsgroups
Ignore this part ->> Access a newsgroup right from the Web.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp

Set Up Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx

Outlook Express newsgroups 101
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx

Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

A newbie to the Community Newgroups posted a Windows 2000 Prof
workstation question to the XP General group using the web newsgroup
reader because he could not find the
microsoft.public.win2000........... groups associated with the win2k
workstation in the navigation pane under English - Windows - Windows
(older versions). The win2k workstation type groups used to display in
the navigation pane, so could someone fix that? It is not terribly
intuitive to have to browse into the win2k server groups for a
workstation question.

A second annoyance...

When clicking on the link in the email notification of a thread update,
it properly or improperly takes you directly to the thread. However,
you are not signed in, so when you click 'reply' you are taken to the
sign in page. However, after signing in, one is kicked back out the the
home newsgroup page
(http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx). Then you have
to click on the emailed link again, or use other means to get back to
the thread so that you can again click 'reply' and post.

I had reported this second issue once before, and it had been fixed, but
the same usability wart is back. Since the link in the notification says
'read the response' logging in prior to reading the update would not
seem to be required, but it would seem trivial to return to the thread
after logging in - at least it had been working that way after I
reported this the first time, and this is the way that other web-based
forum/group readers do it.

 

[PA Bear]

No one here can address those issues, WC. I suggest you use the support
options here instead:
http://support.microsoft.com/contactussupport/?ws=support

It is indeed amazing that no Win2K newsgroups can be found in any of the
Windows subgroups at http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx.

 

[PA Bear]

I've mentioned it in an appropriate "channel".

Knock yourself out. ;-)


In

FYI, I had/have been asked by other MVPs to report problems with the
web-based news reader...

X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000

Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives.

Do yourself a favor and setup a real newsreader.

Outlook Express came free with XP.

You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader
sooner.

MICROSOFT PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS
[[There are many valuable newsgroups on the msnews.microsoft.com
server, on nearly every available topic and in many different
languages. Clicking the links below will automatically create any
necessary account configuration in Outlook Express and take you
directly to the newsgroup you have selected - no complicated
technical configurations are needed!]] http://aumha.org/nntp.htm

Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/directory/worldwide/en-gb/newsout.asp

Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Getting News from Newsgroups
Ignore this part ->> Access a newsgroup right from the Web.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp

Set Up Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx

Outlook Express newsgroups 101
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx

Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In wyocowboy <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
A newbie to the Community Newgroups posted a Windows 2000 Prof
workstation question to the XP General group using the web newsgroup
reader because he could not find the
microsoft.public.win2000........... groups associated with the win2k
workstation in the navigation pane under English - Windows - Windows
(older versions). The win2k workstation type groups used to
display in the navigation pane, so could someone fix that? It is
not terribly intuitive to have to browse into the win2k server
groups for a workstation question.

A second annoyance...

When clicking on the link in the email notification of a thread
update, it properly or improperly takes you directly to the thread.
However, you are not signed in, so when you click 'reply' you are
taken to the sign in page. However, after signing in, one is kicked
back out the the home newsgroup page
(http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx). Then you
have to click on the emailed link again, or use other means to get
back to the thread so that you can again click 'reply' and post.

I had reported this second issue once before, and it had been
fixed, but the same usability wart is back. Since the link in the
notification says 'read the response' logging in prior to reading
the update would not seem to be required, but it would seem trivial
to return to the thread after logging in - at least it had been
working that way after I reported this the first time, and this is
the way that other web-based forum/group readers do it.

 

[Guest]

No one here can address those issues, WC. I suggest you use the support
options here instead:
http://support.microsoft.com/contactussupport/?ws=support

Ok, thanks, sorry for the bandwidth. It's been a while since I reported
problems on it, so I forgot that I had been sending reports to the main web
site support contact. I'll start using that - even if it doesn't get fixed,
at least I won't catch flack for not using a newsreader =:-0

It is indeed amazing that no Win2K newsgroups can be found in any of the
Windows subgroups at http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx.

Yeah I know. They used to be there...

 

[Wesley Vogel]

The "Knock yourself out" part? :-D

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I've mentioned it in an appropriate "channel".

Knock yourself out. ;-)


In

FYI, I had/have been asked by other MVPs to report problems with the
web-based news reader...

:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000

Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives.

Do yourself a favor and setup a real newsreader.

Outlook Express came free with XP.

You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader
sooner.

MICROSOFT PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS
[[There are many valuable newsgroups on the msnews.microsoft.com
server, on nearly every available topic and in many different
languages. Clicking the links below will automatically create any
necessary account configuration in Outlook Express and take you
directly to the newsgroup you have selected - no complicated
technical configurations are needed!]] http://aumha.org/nntp.htm

Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/directory/worldwide/en-gb/newsout.asp

Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Getting News from Newsgroups
Ignore this part ->> Access a newsgroup right from the Web.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp

Set Up Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx

Outlook Express newsgroups 101
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx

Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In wyocowboy <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
A newbie to the Community Newgroups posted a Windows 2000 Prof
workstation question to the XP General group using the web newsgroup
reader because he could not find the
microsoft.public.win2000........... groups associated with the win2k
workstation in the navigation pane under English - Windows - Windows
(older versions). The win2k workstation type groups used to
display in the navigation pane, so could someone fix that? It is
not terribly intuitive to have to browse into the win2k server
groups for a workstation question.

A second annoyance...

When clicking on the link in the email notification of a thread
update, it properly or improperly takes you directly to the thread.
However, you are not signed in, so when you click 'reply' you are
taken to the sign in page. However, after signing in, one is kicked
back out the the home newsgroup page
(http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx). Then you
have to click on the emailed link again, or use other means to get
back to the thread so that you can again click 'reply' and post.

I had reported this second issue once before, and it had been
fixed, but the same usability wart is back. Since the link in the
notification says 'read the response' logging in prior to reading
the update would not seem to be required, but it would seem trivial
to return to the thread after logging in - at least it had been
working that way after I reported this the first time, and this is
the way that other web-based forum/group readers do it.

 

[PA Bear]

Win2K newsgroups found in web-based news!

Win2K General:
http://support.microsoft.com/newsgr...g=microsoft.public.win2000.general&sloc=en-us

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