Trackball Recommandation and Keyboard for CTS

A

asdf

Need some comfortable mouse and keyboard to help my carpal tunnel syndrome:

Need a trackball which fits the following specs:

1. Want the ball to be controlled with my index and middle finger not my
thumb.
2. Wired
3. Needs to have actual scroll wheel (not simulated one)
4. Prefer the trackball which can be used by either hand.

would like for the price to be somewhere below 60$ but if
I find someting that is good I would definitely go higher.

This is the closes I've found but it seems to be discontinued:
Microsoft Trackball Explorer
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50119320&pfp=SEARCH


for the keyboard this one seems to be good one. Any opinions or
suggestions.?
Microsoft Natural 4000 keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16823109148

thanx a million
 
J

John Weiss

asdf said:
Need some comfortable mouse and keyboard to help my carpal tunnel syndrome:

Need a trackball which fits the following specs:

1. Want the ball to be controlled with my index and middle finger not my
thumb.
2. Wired
3. Needs to have actual scroll wheel (not simulated one)
4. Prefer the trackball which can be used by either hand.

would like for the price to be somewhere below 60$ but if
I find someting that is good I would definitely go higher.

Look at the Kensington Expert Mouse -- the one with the cue-ball trackball.
I've been using one for 8+ years!

Though it does not have a discrete scroll wheel, the buttons can be configured
to toggle the trackball to scroll mode.
 
V

Vanguard

asdf said:
Need some comfortable mouse and keyboard to help my carpal tunnel
syndrome:

Need a trackball which fits the following specs:

1. Want the ball to be controlled with my index and middle finger not my
thumb.
2. Wired
3. Needs to have actual scroll wheel (not simulated one)
4. Prefer the trackball which can be used by either hand.

would like for the price to be somewhere below 60$ but if
I find someting that is good I would definitely go higher.

This is the closes I've found but it seems to be discontinued:
Microsoft Trackball Explorer
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50119320&pfp=SEARCH


I also vote for the Kensington Expert Mouse. If you ever need to replace
the ball, I've done so by going to a pool shop to get red snooker ball. I
like the feel of their Expert Mouse. The ball is heavier so you can
actually spin it, great in games when you want to keep moving while
repositioning your fingers. I could never figure out some idiot thought the
thumb is more dextrous than the index and/or middle finger. It isn't. Most
trackballs have more resistance than the Expert Mouse, even Kensington's own
Turbo Mouse and Orbit Trackball which I don't like.
 
A

asdf

thanx for the great recommendation. Went to compusa and to look at the
model. Seems great but what i don't like about is that it's tilted upwards.
Do you guys find this to be the problem. Does the wrist pad thats included
help to reduce the tilt.

Any thoughts on kensington orbit
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=304049&pfp=SEARCH
feels comfortable in my hand and has good slope but no scroll wheel which
Expert has
much cheaper too.

thanx
 
V

Vanguard

asdf said:
thanx for the great recommendation. Went to compusa and to look at the
model. Seems great but what i don't like about is that it's tilted
upwards.
Do you guys find this to be the problem. Does the wrist pad thats included
help to reduce the tilt.

Any thoughts on kensington orbit
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=304049&pfp=SEARCH
feels comfortable in my hand and has good slope but no scroll wheel which
Expert has
much cheaper too.

thanx


I never liked the upward tilt. Even before they began providing their own
wrist rest, I would get a mouse pad with an integral gel pad for the wrist
and lay their trackball atop the pad. That gave me the elevation needed for
a straighter and more comfortable wrist while padding my heel.

When testing the trackball, you were probably standing up and over the
trackball. Well, the same would apply if you tested a mouse. That would
not be the angle under which you would actually use the device. Plus the
display shelf was also probably tilted. It will look weird but you need to
bend down so your arm flexed at the elbow is at the same height and angle as
the store shelf. They probably don't provide the wrist rest with the
display unit because it would "walk off". Go grab a mouse pad with a gel
wrist pad (if there is one outside of its packaging or you can remove one
without destroying the packaging) and put it under the trackball so the heel
of your hand or your wrist (depending on your finger length) has something
at about the right level on which to rest.

Also expect the display unit to be more severely used with all the kids
banging on it, pulling out the ball and dropping it on the hard store
floors, and because the display units never get cleaned (for both the
rollers, bearings, and the ball). I don't recall a store refusing to refund
or exchange a keyboard or mouse that I've taken back so I doubt they would
refuse to take back the trackball. However, be sure that the store actually
has the Expert Mouse in stock. All the retail stores around me are always
out of stock on this particular model. If you order online, check their
return policy.
 
J

John Weiss

asdf said:
thanx for the great recommendation. Went to compusa and to look at the
model. Seems great but what i don't like about is that it's tilted upwards.
Do you guys find this to be the problem. Does the wrist pad thats included
help to reduce the tilt.

I've been using the wrist pad (about 3/4" thick; comes up to the top edge of the
base), and it works just great! I got the pad when I bought the v5 Expert
Mouse, which replaced the v3 I had several (5+?) years ago.

Looking at the new selection, I might even consider the new optical ExpertMouse
with the "scroll ring"!

Any thoughts on kensington orbit
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=304049&pfp=SEARCH
feels comfortable in my hand and has good slope but no scroll wheel which
Expert has much cheaper too.

It may be a case of "You get what you pay for"... One of the best features of
the ExpertMouse is the mass and inertia of the tracking ball. I think it may be
a "good thing" for your CTS.
 
J

John Doe

asdf said:
Need some comfortable mouse and keyboard to help my carpal tunnel
syndrome:

The best medicine for carpal tunnel syndrome (CTS) is
speech-recognition. You can pick up a copy of Dragon
NaturallySpeaking version 7 on eBay cheap. ViaVoice is not the way
to go.

I don't miss typing. I don't need a spellchecker. Text to speech TTS
is useful for proofreading, you must proofread to avoid mistakes
that are worse than typos.

It can be a long-term learning experience that is difficult to
master. However incredibly frustrating, if you are an avid computer
user and can learn to speak well enough to satisfy a stupid computer
program, it's most awesome. Then if you can afford the professional
(scripting) version, that's icing on the cake.

Good luck.
 
V

Vanguard

John Weiss said:
I've been using the wrist pad (about 3/4" thick; comes up to the top edge
of the base), and it works just great! I got the pad when I bought the v5
Expert Mouse, which replaced the v3 I had several (5+?) years ago.

Looking at the new selection, I might even consider the new optical
ExpertMouse with the "scroll ring"!



It may be a case of "You get what you pay for"... One of the best
features of the ExpertMouse is the mass and inertia of the tracking ball.
I think it may be a "good thing" for your CTS.


Mine broke and the stores haven't had it stock (and, for awhile, it was just
too pricey online), plus others are using my host and they weren't
comfortable with an "alien" pointing device. Since I'll be getting a new
one soon (damn the other users since my wrist and pinky are getting tired of
mice), I'm wondering if the ExpertMouse still has the ball-bearing steel
rollers? My old one lasted 7 years (with one ball replacement). I found it
gave smooth and even movement whereas rubber-coated or plastic rollers in
other trackballs had to much resistance (i.e., felt friction) and got dirty
too quick which caused hestitation or erratic movement, especially when
attempting very fine movement. I remember pounding unmercifully on the
ExpertMouse when playing games and it survived a long time. A button broke
because a heavy object crashed on it when some shelving gave way, not
because of my abuse of it. Mice are too fragile and more tiring to use.

So are the latest ExpertMouse trackballs as industrial-stength as they once
were? None of the stores in my large 2-city metropolis even have a demo
model on display or a box that I can dig into to look. I miss my
ExpertMouse sorely (literally). It was a feature that Kensington used to
play up regarding the high-quality and strength of their ExpertMouse, but I
see no mention of ball-bearing steel rollers anymore on their web site. I
found their TurboMouse and Orbit trackballs to be disappointing (i.e., no
better than the competition regarding qualify and feel although the
trackball was better positioned). I would think if it still had those
high-quality features then Kensington would play them up.
 
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Vanguard

John Doe said:
The best medicine for carpal tunnel syndrome (CTS) is
speech-recognition. You can pick up a copy of Dragon
NaturallySpeaking version 7 on eBay cheap. ViaVoice is not the way
to go.

I don't miss typing. I don't need a spellchecker. Text to speech TTS
is useful for proofreading, you must proofread to avoid mistakes
that are worse than typos.

It can be a long-term learning experience that is difficult to
master. However incredibly frustrating, if you are an avid computer
user and can learn to speak well enough to satisfy a stupid computer
program, it's most awesome. Then if you can afford the professional
(scripting) version, that's icing on the cake.


That is okay if you are in a controlled and quiet environment. With other
users talking over short-height cubicle walls (or no walls, like you share a
large cubicle) then get used to the pinch of a headset all day long. Thank
God I don't work in a sales area with everyone talking at once on headsets
and cell phones. I'd go nuts in my still-quiet development area. I'm sure
there are folks that want to play their CDs and listen to online music at
work but we don't give them speakers in order to deliberately keep the area
quiet[er]. At home, you might think you're safe in your den to use a mic
until the spouse runs in and yells, "SHUTDOWN! We're late for the party" and
you lose all your changes or setup. Speech recognition is okay if you are
orating mostly text, like a fiction book or letter, but just try to tell the
speech-recognition program how to write code, write mathematical formulae,
draw a picture, or even how to play a game (by the time it figures it out,
provided the game didn't disable that input and the noise of the game did
not interfere), it will be too late unless you are playing very
slow-reacting games.
 
A

asdf

from the reviews that i've read on amazon, newegg and epinions the version 7
expert trackballs are using plastic rollers. There is a good chance, judging
from people's
reactions that you will eather love this change or will hate it.

Also, is there any word on when version 8 is coming out. I really like this
trackball but am still very concerned that the incline of the device will
not be
comfortable even with the included wrist pad. I guess Ill order it from
Newegg
and see if it's good.
 
L

Leon Manfredi

Go, if you can, with the USB Expert Mouse Pro Wireless, in combo with a keyboard
mouse for installation modes, where the USB mouse will not command prompt respond.
 
A

asdf

but would you say the pad they provide with it is comfortable.
Does it have this good gel feel to(does it provide good cushioning) it or is
it some cheapo pad that is
supplied with the unit?

thank you very much for all your help
 
V

Vanguard

asdf said:
from the reviews that i've read on amazon, newegg and epinions the version
7
expert trackballs are using plastic rollers. There is a good chance,
judging
from people's
reactions that you will eather love this change or will hate it.


I only found 1 review at epinions.com and amazon.com only showed the unit
with all the buttons across the top that I don't want (and I don't know if
its construction is the same as the ExpertMouse trackball. Amazon's article
shows a TurboMouse, and the pricing at Amazon is 50% to 80% what Kensington
says should be the MSRP. Even Newegg.com shows a TurboMouse but claims it
is an ExpertMouse (see
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826125007 for a
mislabelled product, whereas
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826125017 is the
EXPERTmouse product).

TurboMouse = http://us.kensington.com/html/1159.html
MSRP = $109.00, Newegg = $85, Amazon = $185 (yeah, right)
ExpertMouse = http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html
MSRP = $99.99, Newegg = $83

Peculiarly, the Kensington's TurboMouse description mentions steel bearings.
I suppose you could put steel ball bearings inside a plastic roller but I
suspect it has steel rollers, too. Since the ExpertMouse's description
never mentions "steel" at all, I'd go with the TurboMouse.

By the way, if you don't like the upward slope, you can always get the
thicker square-shapped self-stick rubber feet at Menard's or another
hardware store to raise up the front end (providing you have an equivalent
height wrist pad). When I used the ExpertMouse, my index and middle finger
tips rested atop the ball and I clicked on the lower 2 buttons to the side.
So my reach never extended forward enough to care about the upward slope.
They didn't have the wrist pad included back when I got mine, so I simply
adjusted the mouse pad with the integral gel wrist pad (from Belkin) at a
distance that positioned my fingertips over the ball. All those extra
buttons at the top are just fluff that I wouldn't use, anyway, but if you
reach that far then you are off the ball and the slope is irrelevant.

I guess trialing the unit to see if it is comfortable would be best.
Newegg, or an online vendor, may take a return if you didn't like the feel
of the device but they'll probably give you credit because the product
really wasn't defective (and they may charge a restocking fee). With the
cost of shipping to get it and the [usually bigger] cost of returning it,
I'd probably pay the same price at a retail store if they had the product
since the return would be immediate (and I've had better luck returning
keyboards and mice that I simply didn't like at retail stores). CompUSA
lists the TurboMouse
(http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50124377&pfp=cat3)
for $89.99 but unfortunately it is not an in-store item - frickin rattin
brackin grabrickin smricken goof-for-nuttin (yadda yadda). CompUSA's online
outlet has their 21-day satisfaction policy so you could ask when ordering
if they'll accept a return simply based on your dislike of the product. I
didn't see an equivalent and overtly stated satisfaction policy at
Newegg.com so the extra $6 at CompUSA might be well worth the cost of the
"rental period" while you trial the device.

Now you got me anxious and wanting to go get a TurboMouse. I've found a
lightweight but relatively durable mouse (for mice, that is) with decent
response but it is still tiring on the wrist with all the movement needed
across the pad and upping its speed, even with high acceleration (to slow it
down when moving slowly) still moves my wrist too much, and my pinky gets
tired of having to squeeze the mouse (with the thumb) to always lift it to
reposition on the pad.
 
A

asdf

yes i was talking about
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826125017
unit. It also now has scroll ring which is much better since now i don't
have to simulate
the scroll by pressing buttons while spinning the ball.

Now you got me thinking that maybe that turbo mouse is the better unit.
Notice however
that the scroll wheel is above the ball so you will have to move your hand
to scroll through
the pages with the Expert unit you can scroll while your hand is motionless.
Also the pad seem
to be nothing but a piece of plastic.



thanx
 
V

Vanguard

asdf said:
yes i was talking about
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826125017
unit. It also now has scroll ring which is much better since now i don't
have to simulate
the scroll by pressing buttons while spinning the ball.

Now you got me thinking that maybe that turbo mouse is the better unit.
Notice however
that the scroll wheel is above the ball so you will have to move your hand
to scroll through
the pages with the Expert unit you can scroll while your hand is
motionless.
Also the pad seem
to be nothing but a piece of plastic.


I was using the old one shown at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826125018. The
distance between the end of the case on the bottom or hand side to the ball
and buttons was short enough that I used a Belkin mouse pad that has a gel
pad to provide a wrist rest. I can't tell from the pics for the TurboMouse
if that bottom area is longer which would result in the heel of you hand
having to rest atop the hard plastic. If that was the case, I wouldn't get
it.

Using a scroll wheel in the pointing device has never been of much
importance to me. Because of the lopsided shape of keyboards because both
the arrow and number pads on on the rightside, I have the pointing device on
the left side so my left forearm extends straight forward instead of off at
an angle for my right forearm. It probably took a week to get used to it
and now I much prefer that setup, even for mice. With my left hand doing
the pointing, my right hand is free to use the Enter key (which is still
often needed but then I don't need to lift my hand off the pointing device)
and the arrow and number pads (which are handier for in-game controls than
the non-symmetrical alpha keys: my fingers on the numpad for movement and my
thumb over the arrow pad but for other than movement functions in the game).
As such, my right hand is also free to use the arrows or up/down keys for
scrolling around in a document. I have more control over scrolling with
those keys than spinning a wheel on a pointing device, especially if the
pointing device is moving at the same time. But that's my preference and
you want a scroll wheel or equivalent in your pointing device. When you
scroll, are you actually moving the mouse pointer around on the screen?
Most times, probably not. I'm not sure a scroll ring won't end up moving
your fingers out of position, too, or it might not be as comfortable as it
may seem.

The TurboMouse is 7 inches long. The ball's center looks to be slightly off
center, so I'm guessing it is at about 3.5" up from the bottom. I don't put
my fingers over the ball to then have to curl them backward. That is
uncomfortable and a less dextrous position for my fingers. So my fingers
are straight out with the tips above the center of the ball. That means I
really only use the back 2 buttons (most of the other stuff is fluff to me).
That would mean with my finger and palm length that my heel would be off the
plastic base an atop a gel wrist pad (that I would have to get separately,
like
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Product_Id=22468
where the trackball sits atop the pad with the wrist pad butting up against
the bottom of the trackball). The old one that I had (link shown in first
line in this post) was 5.5" long so it definitely shorter (by 1.5 inches).
If you look at the old one, the top ended about .5" above the top buttons,
so much of the added 1.5" length for the TurboMouse is probably to provide
the room for the scroll wheel and row of programmable buttons along the top.
Yet, it does seem the distance from the bottom buttons to the bottom edge of
the case for the old unit is shorter than for the TurboMouse but not by
much. Using the larger photos at Newegg, the added distance seems to be for
the curved shape of the bottom of the case (which I don't like since I want
a gell pad to sit right up there). WHOA! The photos at Newegg show there
is an attachable pad for the TurboMouse but no info if it is a gel-filled
pad. Too bad Newegg is out of stock on the old ones (CompUSA doesn't
mention availability other than not in-store) but then you wanted a scroll
wheel.

In this discussion, I've been talking about the TurboMouse *Pro* but there
is a non-Pro model which is very much sized the same as the old ExpertMouse
that I used shown in the link above. See
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50036006&pfp=srch1.
However, it is priced higher than the TurboMouse and less features but
without the size needed to add those extra features. Alas, still no scroll
ring or scroll wheel. I'd rather get this unit and have the comfort of a
gel wrist pad. For me, comfort wins over glitz any and every day. You
could also get a keyboard with a scroll wheel on the side, like the Logitech
Navigator (see left side of keyboard with scroll wheel and up/down buttons
at http://snipurl.com/m0za; I liked their older model that did NOT have the
F-lock button). While not as close as a scroll ring on the Expert Mouse, it
probably wouldn't be anymore out of position than the scroll wheel on the
TurboMouse. Unlike me where my right hand is free to use the page up/down
and arrow keys for scrolling, maybe you'll want the trackball on the right
of the keyboard which means your left hand would be free to use the scroll
wheel on the keyboard.

Again, with CompUSA, they have their satisfaction policy so you could test
each one for a bit (just consider the return shipping cost as the cost of
the "rental period"). A bit of rental cost now can save you from regret
later. If I can rent it, I'm afforded a more realistic trial than a
one-shot out-of-context test drive. If you can, see if a local store has a
display model to check it out.
 
A

asdf

Vanguard said:
I was using the old one shown at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826125018. The
distance between the end of the case on the bottom or hand side to the ball
and buttons was short enough that I used a Belkin mouse pad that has a gel
pad to provide a wrist rest. I can't tell from the pics for the TurboMouse
if that bottom area is longer which would result in the heel of you hand
having to rest atop the hard plastic. If that was the case, I wouldn't get
it.

Using a scroll wheel in the pointing device has never been of much
importance to me. Because of the lopsided shape of keyboards because both
the arrow and number pads on on the rightside, I have the pointing device on
the left side so my left forearm extends straight forward instead of off at
an angle for my right forearm. It probably took a week to get used to it
and now I much prefer that setup, even for mice. With my left hand doing
the pointing, my right hand is free to use the Enter key (which is still
often needed but then I don't need to lift my hand off the pointing device)
and the arrow and number pads (which are handier for in-game controls than
the non-symmetrical alpha keys: my fingers on the numpad for movement and my
thumb over the arrow pad but for other than movement functions in the game).
As such, my right hand is also free to use the arrows or up/down keys for
scrolling around in a document. I have more control over scrolling with
those keys than spinning a wheel on a pointing device, especially if the
pointing device is moving at the same time. But that's my preference and
you want a scroll wheel or equivalent in your pointing device. When you
scroll, are you actually moving the mouse pointer around on the screen?

yes that is often the case.
Most times, probably not. I'm not sure a scroll ring won't end up moving
your fingers out of position, too, or it might not be as comfortable as it
may seem.

The TurboMouse is 7 inches long. The ball's center looks to be slightly off
center, so I'm guessing it is at about 3.5" up from the bottom. I don't put
my fingers over the ball to then have to curl them backward. That is
uncomfortable and a less dextrous position for my fingers. So my fingers
are straight out with the tips above the center of the ball. That means I
really only use the back 2 buttons (most of the other stuff is fluff to me).
That would mean with my finger and palm length that my heel would be off the
plastic base an atop a gel wrist pad (that I would have to get separately,
like
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Product_Id=22468

yes that's the exact model I'm using myself now.
where the trackball sits atop the pad with the wrist pad butting up against
the bottom of the trackball). The old one that I had (link shown in first
line in this post) was 5.5" long so it definitely shorter (by 1.5 inches).
If you look at the old one, the top ended about .5" above the top buttons,
so much of the added 1.5" length for the TurboMouse is probably to provide
the room for the scroll wheel and row of programmable buttons along the top.
Yet, it does seem the distance from the bottom buttons to the bottom edge of
the case for the old unit is shorter than for the TurboMouse but not by
much. Using the larger photos at Newegg, the added distance seems to be for
the curved shape of the bottom of the case (which I don't like since I want
a gell pad to sit right up there). WHOA! The photos at Newegg show there
is an attachable pad for the TurboMouse but no info if it is a gel-filled
pad. Too bad Newegg is out of stock on the old ones (CompUSA doesn't
mention availability other than not in-store) but then you wanted a scroll
wheel.

better pick of expert pro here:
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000052WM4.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
 
A

asdf

In this discussion, I've been talking about the TurboMouse *Pro* but there
is a non-Pro model which is very much sized the same as the old ExpertMouse
that I used shown in the link above. See
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50036006&pfp=srch1.
However, it is priced higher than the TurboMouse and less features but
unfortunatelly I'm using PC so i think I'm out of luck

this model is for PC but looks larger.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50187040&pfp=SEARCH

pheew can't believe it can be this difficult to pick out a mouse
without the size needed to add those extra features. Alas, still no scroll
ring or scroll wheel. I'd rather get this unit and have the comfort of a
gel wrist pad. For me, comfort wins over glitz any and every day. You
could also get a keyboard with a scroll wheel on the side, like the Logitech
Navigator (see left side of keyboard with scroll wheel and up/down buttons
at http://snipurl.com/m0za; I liked their older model that did NOT have the
F-lock button). While not as close as a scroll ring on the Expert Mouse, it
probably wouldn't be anymore out of position than the scroll wheel on the
TurboMouse. Unlike me where my right hand is free to use the page up/down
and arrow keys for scrolling, maybe you'll want the trackball on the right
of the keyboard which means your left hand would be free to use the scroll
wheel on the keyboard.

Got this keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16823109148

it has Zoom wheel which can be used as a scroll wheel
 
A

asdf

just measured my belking pad and it's sligtly over 7 inches in length so the
unit will definitelly fit on top.
when hill of my palm is placed on the gel my fingers reach exactly 6 inches
into the pad.
So does that mean I can controll the ball and still have my arm resting on
the gel?
 
J

John Doe

Vanguard said:
That is okay if you are in a controlled and quiet environment.

Background noise makes little difference while using a headset
microphone.
With other
users talking over short-height cubicle walls (or no walls, like
you share a large cubicle) then get used to the pinch of a headset
all day long.

Maybe if you have a lousy headset.

At home, you might think you're safe in your den to use a mic
until the spouse runs in and yells, "SHUTDOWN! We're late for the
party" and you lose all your changes or setup.

That sounds like bad science fiction.
Speech recognition is okay if you are
orating mostly text, like a fiction book or letter,

Or just about everything else text wise on my computer.
but just try to tell the
speech-recognition program how to write code, write mathematical
formulae,

Macros are better recognized than dictation.
draw a picture,

I'm not interested in drawing with the stroke of my tongue.
or even how to play a game (by the time it figures it out,
provided the game didn't disable that input and the noise of the
game did not interfere), it will be too late unless you are
playing very slow-reacting games.

Age of Empires Conquerors is a click fest. I have automated it and
rocked my opponents. No games that I know of attempt to disable
speech-recognition input. I usually have game sounds turned off. But
again, a good headset microphone filters almost everything besides
your voice.

For whatever reasons, apparently you are attempting to guess your
way through this subject.

The real problem is learning to speak well enough to communicate
with a stupid computer program.
 

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