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Should I expect my computer to slow down with each
additional user I install?.
We hav 5 kids...(no smart remarks please)...two
adults...and two exchange students ....all with there own
user account. Some of the kids have a lot of games and
downloads.....
I have noticed that with each user I install..the compute
slows down...is this normal?.
I run winxp with 128 meg ram...(again..no smart remarks
please..:)
No new downloads lately but it just seems to get slower
with each user.
Thanks
 
rickoh said:
Should I expect my computer to slow down with each
additional user I install?.
We hav 5 kids...(no smart remarks please)...

No TV?

two
adults...and two exchange students ....all with there own
user account. Some of the kids have a lot of games and
downloads.....
I have noticed that with each user I install..the compute
slows down...is this normal?.
I run winxp with 128 meg ram...(again..no smart remarks
please..:)

Running XP with 128 MB RAM is not enough, especially with so many users who
could be downloading who knows what onto your computer.
No new downloads lately but it just seems to get slower
with each user.
Thanks

That should tell you something. Try putting 512 MB RAM on the machine and
see what happens. You might also want to run spyware detection programs.

Alias
 
Well 128mb ram is the minimum req. for winxp, with a large number of users
there will be a slow down which may be exasipated by the number of apps
running on startup - as seen in the task bar -
You may want to increase the ram to 256 if not 512mb

Also with kids downloading whatever, you may want to download,update and run
both Adaware and SpyBot, both free to clear yr pc of trojans/spyware etc.
 
-----Original Message-----
Should I expect my computer to slow down with each
additional user I install?.
We hav 5 kids...(no smart remarks please)...two
adults...and two exchange students ....all with there own
user account. Some of the kids have a lot of games and
downloads.....
I have noticed that with each user I install..the compute
slows down...is this normal?.
I run winxp with 128 meg ram...(again..no smart remarks
please..:)
No new downloads lately but it just seems to get slower
with each user.
Thanks
.

You need more RAM and fewer children. You say some of the
kids have "a lot of...downloads," and therein probably
lies your problem. Your computer is probably a mess.
You need to scan for viruses, worms, spyware and adware.
Google for Adaware and Spybot Search and Destroy. Download
them, update them and run them. If any of the kids has
Kazaa installed get rid of it (Kazaa, not the kid,
although...).
 
You have several area to address.
Logon on to your user account as admin rights.

First - temp internet files - how much space each user is allowed. In the
browser tools options, reduce this to 4 MB which should cover their most
activite sites.
Next delete all cookies and files by clicking buttons.
(This may not not be global so do it for each user.)

Next - run disk cleanup and delete files.

Next - adware, spyware -
download Adware SE from lavasoft.com
install and run, click the update button above start and download the
current checker file.
Click start and it will scan for adware.
If you get a list, right click and select all, then delete, finish, close
the app using the x in top left.


Next - download and install a outbound port stopper firewall. The newest
version of Zone Alarm Pro can be download as a 15 days trial and then
reverts to Zone Alarm free. You really need this PRO version with all those
game player. It will not stop adlware but will stop it from connecting to
the internet from you side.

Next - download and install SpywareStopper.
check for updates. say yes to do you want to .. type messages.
It will instal registery entries to prevent many know malware from
activating. And it has a lot of outher useful items, and finally it runs in
the background as a blocker for spyware, adware, axtiveX, cookies.

Now you have you computer cleaned up and safe,
so the next thing is to defrag the c: partition with the defrag program.
(Don't bother if you are running FAT32.)
before you defrag run a checkdisk /f
Now your disk files are ordered and tuned.

Next - check for programs being loaded as suggested in earlier posts.

on going- Monitor ports and activity by the kids.
Many of the games my stop, the malware will stop, and the programs the kids
run may need a port(s) opened which ZA fw will notify you about and make a
suggestion.
Before you say yes, you should reaserch the program as being safe.

Lastly - autologoff with programs closed.
With the five kids loging on and off using fast user swithing there may be
open programs for all of them.
By installing this autologoff and close programs with a short duration it
will reduce such,

http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/winexit.htm

How effective is all of this?
I just did it all on a W2K 266 mmx with 128 MB.
and it runs consistanly slowing down for the exceptions for a second or two
but it has no more junk and nothing gets in or out except for new cookies
which get flaged eventually by spywarestopper.

SJ
 
I agree with other that more RAM will probably help. I have used XP with
128 Meg, 256 Meg, 512 Meg, and now 1Gig. 128 to 256 was an amazing
difference. Less so 256 to 512. 512 to 1Gig made no difference, except for
when I edit large digital images with PaintShopPro.

I also agree that Spybot Search & Destroy and Adaware are well worth the
download time, and could save you from problems. (I also assume that you
have a good antivirus and update it's definitions at least weekly?)

I agree that cleaning chaces and temp file may help. A free temp and cache
cleaner is available at the following website. Do not be put off by the
site name, it is really legitimate software:

http://www.buttuglysoftware.com/

Have you defragged recently? It might help. Of course, delete junk files
first.

In terms of general maintainance, have you run CHKDSK recently? If not,
open a command prompt and type CHKDSK C: /F aqnd then say "Y" when asked
about doing the check during a reboot.

Finally, does more than one person log-in at one time? There is a
performance overhead for each user that is logged-in, so be sure that
everyone is logged-out before the next person logs-in.
 
You've got a paltry 128 and you don't want smart remarks?? The "smart"
thing to do is upgrade the memory to at LEAST 512. If anyone is doing
photo retouching, you should get a Gigabyte. I just upped my new pc's
memory from 512 to 1 Gb and got one operation in Photoshop to speed up
from 70 seconds to 32.

Isn't it ironic that the one thing that knowledgeable users tell you to
do is the one thing you are so resistant to do?

David
 
rickoh said:
We hav 5 kids...(no smart remarks please)...two
adults...and two exchange students ....all with there own
user account. Some of the kids have a lot of games and
downloads.....
I have noticed that with each user I install..the compute
slows down...is this normal?.
I run winxp with 128 meg ram...(again..no smart remarks
please..:)
No new downloads lately but it just seems to get slower
with each user.

Only if you use fast user switching so that they do not log out and then
another log on. But without making smart remarks, that RAM is
seriously too small for a lot of the games they may be wanting to play
 
David said:
You've got a paltry 128 and you don't want smart remarks?? The "smart"
thing to do is upgrade the memory to at LEAST 512. If anyone is doing
photo retouching, you should get a Gigabyte.

In that use pattern you may; but please do not go OTT on the matter for
a general user. He will probably get an immense improvement by adding
256 MB to 378, but after that diminishing returns will set in, unless he
is doing such specialist things - which he does not appear to be doing.
 
Before upgrading Ram, I would take an alternate approach. Sharing
a "Family PC" is a steady income stream for me. No matter how you
setup the PC or actions you take, it likely will need attention within a
short period of time. Especially, with Instant Messenger and every
Media Player on the planet, P2P, Kazaa and all the others.
Consider the Dell "Special-of-the-Week" desktop for the offspring.
Turn off Fast User Switching and get a CD-Burner. Tell them you'll
do no maintenance and it's their PC. Buy them a stack of CD-R's &
make sure they know how to backup their data. I've overheard some
strong/heated family finger pointing about "Who messed up the PC".
Once they are on their own computer, Lock the existing one down.
Remove their profiles and setup a "Strong" password for the adults.
Like Alex said 128 Megabytes is barely enough memory for simple
tasks, yet alone any type of gaming.
 

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