To: Jonathan Kay VSMVP- No Audio

[Suha Altug]

Although I really have very high regard for people like
Jonathan Kay who are giving and very helpful to the
community, somebody else also noticed that, he is Very
Selective about the type of problems he offers solution to.
Ever since I installed a Linksys router to my brother's
computers and created a local area network for
him,Messenger 6.2 started to give us problems. I am
currently port forwarding on my router as well as my
brother's, cannot get any audio, and after about 4 to 5
minutes in Audio connection effort, messenger will kick us
out. I need to solve this problem and want to have a
dependable tool for audio/Video Conferencing.

What I need from you from you Jonathan is a name of a
Microsoft connection to whom I can go to resolve issues
like having no audio (which you are not willing to
address). That is why I change your title from MVP to Very
Selective MVP,VSMVP. Thank you very much in advance for
any advice or help I can get. I am not trying to nasty but
as yoyu can see I am very frustrated!

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

Excuse me?.. we all have different areas of specialty knowledge, and no one
MVP that frequents these newsgroups knows it all.. each one of us can only
answer questions to problems that we have encountered, and when we can't
answer, we let somebody else take over or go looking ourselves.. this
concept is known as teamwork..

I would also remind you that MVPs and others that frequent these newsgroups
do so in their own time and get no remuneration for their efforts.. the
newsgroups are not a hotline to MS support..

If you want audio/video conferencing using MSN Messenger, I suggest that you
find yourself an ISP with a reliable connection that also supplies UPnP
enabled connection hardware..

 

[Alain Stucki]

I guess the problem is on your side. If you use a UNIVERSAL PLUG AND
PLAY or UPNP enabled router (and enable this feature on the router)
there is no problem at all. I have used it with the D-Link Dl-604 and
it works without any problems.

And if you read the website of Mr Kay then you'll also find the
information that the router must have UPNP enabled.

 

[Ungreatful People H-8-er]

I would just like to say that you are an ungreatful mean
person, just by looking at the surface of your comments.
DO you think YOU can bully someone into answering you. I
have lurked in this newsgroup, having worked for an ISP,
and found his suggestions helpful.

The existance of an MVP is not to be at your (or my) beck
and call. They volunteer what time they have and answer
what questions they choose to. They are not paid to
answer every question in this newsgroup.

If you need a servant because you are incompetent, that
is one thing. If, however, you are just being an ass by
appending the VS, go back to the hole you crawled out of
until you can play nicely in the sandbox.

If you want a servant, shell out the 199Euro for a call
and talk to Microsoft PSS (professional support services).

I hope that Jonathan does not answer your question based
upon principle. Too bad you can't be kick banned from
this newsgroup.

 

[JW]

it is an outright lie to say
"(which you are not willing to address)". it is also insulting.
The fact is Jonathan Kay has been addressing this Same issue for many
months (maybe many years).

if somebody responds to the Same issue every day for many months (maybe
years), and suddenly doesn't appear for a day or two, why is it beyond
your capacity to consider the person might be (a) sick, (b) on vacation,
(c) moving to a new home, (d) depressed over a death in the family, or
(e) any number of other reasons ? it can only be explained as moronic.

why did you not search Google first ? it is outright lazy to not run
Google and simply search for the word Messenger and the exact phrase "no
audio". if you had done this, you would have found hundreds and
hundreds of postings explaining solutions for people who had the exact
same problem.

the attitude you demonstrated is as senseless as walking into a car
dealership, walking over to the Manager, spitting in his face, and
saying "what I need from you is a solution to my problem".

 

[Bob Christian]

Dudes (and Dudettes)!

What we forget is that people from all over the world are in this newsgroup.
In some countries it is perfectly acceptable to "spit in the manager's
face", so to speak... Suha may be from one of these countries (or cities)
where rudeness to get your way is an accepted practice... I can think of a
few cities inside and outside the U.S. of A where being rude first is
accepted practice. Then there are professions (good cop/bad cop) where
rudeness is an accepted practice.

However, there is an old parable that you will get more flies from honey
than you will from vinegar. So, it is best to be nice to someone in order
to get what you want.

Jonathan has answered a few of my questions in the past few months. As
such, he has been a tremendous help. My question is: How does Jonathan put
food on the table, balance time with family and friends, work a full time
job, do his laundry, and manage to sleep? It seems like he is always in
this newsgroup giving of himself, to help out.

Last I read of the MVP charter, the MVP award is a reward for helping out
others. It did not say that you *must* know all of the answers, answer
*all* of the questions, and help everybody resolve their problem. Some
people in these newsgroups are new to IT and technology and are lucky enough
to learn how to use a computer, let alone manage the complexities afforded
by networking hardware, such as routers, switches, firewalls, etc.

So, we must realize that it may be perfectly fine in Suha's locale to be
rude to volunteer professionals.

So, Mr. Suha (or Mrs./Ms. Suha), it looks like people know what your
question is and choose not to answer it because you insulted Jonathan.

Being the helpful person that I am, I am going to defer you to 'hiring' "The
Geek Squad" at Best Buy. You pay $60-$75 an hour, dependent upon locale,
and they should be able to assist you and help you resolve your problem.
Should you not be in a locale with a Best Buy, check with a local IT shop.
Most local IT shops run $25-$125/hr, dependent upon the experience of the
technician. Note: Try being nice to them first.

Bob