title master -> subtitle problems

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ward

Hello,

Powerpoint 2000 SR-1, Windows 2000

I'm designing a title master, but i don't want it to
include a subtitle autolayout area, so i deleted it in the
title master view. So far, so good.

However, if i make a new slide (insert slide) and i choose
the title slide at the beginning, it creates a new title
slide but it DOES show a subtitle area.

Why?

Any ideas?
Ward

Ps: if i check again my title master, there is correctly
no subtitle area
 
M

Michael Koerner

When you deleted it, did you resave it as a template file?

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Hello,

Powerpoint 2000 SR-1, Windows 2000

I'm designing a title master, but i don't want it to
include a subtitle autolayout area, so i deleted it in the
title master view. So far, so good.

However, if i make a new slide (insert slide) and i choose
the title slide at the beginning, it creates a new title
slide but it DOES show a subtitle area.

Why?

Any ideas?
Ward

Ps: if i check again my title master, there is correctly
no subtitle area
 
J

John Langhans [MSFT]

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Hello Ward,

The slide autolayouts determine what placeholders are included in new
slides. Since the "Title Slide" autolayout contains both a Title and a
Subtitle placeholder, a new Title Slide will always contain both
placeholders. You cannot change this behavior. By deleting the "Subtitle
Area for Autolayouts" from the Title master all you have really done is
tell PowerPoint to use it's default behaviors to determine the location and
formatting of the Subtitle placeholder when using the Title Slide
autolayout. What you would really need to do is to create a custom Title
only autolayout which doesn't contain a subtitle placeholder, however
PowerPoint does not have the capability of creating/adding custom
placeholders to the slide master and/or creating/adding customer slide
layouts which would take advantage of such custom placeholders. With
multiple master feature in PowerPoint 2002 and 2003 you can create a
variety of almost identical slide masters with different behaviors
(animations) and placement of title and object areas for AutoLayouts so
that when used in conjunction with the existing autolayouts you can get
some additional flexibility but you are still limited to the number and
type of placeholders on in the masters to those that are listed in the
"Master Layout" dialog and still limted to the number and type of slide
autolayouts that are currently available.

For your particular scenarion, one workaround is to create slides that are
laid out and formatted the way you want and then you can use the Duplicate
Slide command (or just copy/paste) to make a new copy of the slide each
time you need to create a slide that uses the same layout/formatting.

Of course, if you (or anyone else reading this message) feel strongly that
some kind feature for creating custom placeholders and/or slide autolayouts
should be a built-in feature in PowerPoint, don't forget to send your
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Steve Rindsberg

I'm designing a title master, but i don't want it to
include a subtitle autolayout area, so i deleted it in the
title master view. So far, so good.

However, if i make a new slide (insert slide) and i choose
the title slide at the beginning, it creates a new title
slide but it DOES show a subtitle area.


Ps: if i check again my title master, there is correctly
no subtitle area

I get the same thing (and the subtitle inherits a black line around it from
somewhere or other). I'd say it's a bug; luckily, it's a minor annoyance.
You'll have to delete the things when PPT adds them. Usually if there's no
text in the placeholder, PPT doesn't display it when it prints or does a
slideshow, but darned if it doesn't toss that black-outlined box up on the
screen here! I guess you have to share the ears with me?
 
P

PPTMagician

Hi Ward,

It's because the autolayout of the Title Master includes a
subtitle, so even if you don't have it in the Master,
it'll put it there anyway. Much like there aren't any
graph or clip art placeholders on the Master Slide, but
the autolayouts will add them anyway.

The best way around this if you are looking to share a
template is to set your Slide Master and Title Master the
way you want and then add the First 2 slides, A Title
Slide and the second slide. Don't add any text. Delete
the subtitle placeholder on the Title Slide and save your
file as a POT file.

Most folks will enter the Text on the Title slide without
reapplying the autolayout.

HTH,
Glenna
 
K

Kathryn Jacobs

Ward,
I have a different solution. Build your title master the way you want it,
but:
1) Make the sub-title placeholder really small, then...
2) Drag the sub-title placeholder off the slide

This way it will still exist (so PPT won't make another one), but it won't
show (so it won't print).

Let me know what you think :)
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ward

Kathryn,

Your solutions seems the most usefull. I'll use it the way
you suggested...

Thanks to the others for the replies as well.

greetz
Ward
 

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