The fire is out - next step . . .

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Williams

(see my recent posts starting with "The fire is out . . .)

When I receive the new motherboard from DFI (NFII Ultra Infinity), I will
need to remove my Athlon XP CPU from the damaged board, which has the
AMD-supplied heat sink and fan installed. I didn't look when I had the case
open last, but will the CPU/heat sink/fan assembly come out in one piece, or
will I have to disassemble it to get the zif lever to release?

If I have to disassemble, is there a way to reassemble with proper thermal
contact between the CPU and heat sink? As I recall, there was a special
thermal pad on top of the CPU when I installed it.

Thanks,
Craig
 
W

Williams

Actually, the thermal pad was probably on the bottom of the heat sink, not
the top of the CPU. It's been a while.
 
D

David Maynard

Williams said:
Actually, the thermal pad was probably on the bottom of the heat sink, not
the top of the CPU. It's been a while.

It would be extremely rare if you had one that could be removed as an
assembly without first removing the heatsink.

Typically one cleans off the old pad and installs either a new pad or uses
thermal compound.
 
S

spodosaurus

David said:
It would be extremely rare if you had one that could be removed as an
assembly without first removing the heatsink.

Typically one cleans off the old pad and installs either a new pad or
uses thermal compound.

Further, instructions for cleaning the old thermal pad and putting on
new thermal grease have been done to death in this newsgroup and a brief
google search will give you a variety of slightly varying opinions and
techniques. My favourite thermal grease is Arctic Alumina (not
potentially conductive like Arctic Silver and related silver containing
pastes).

Remove the board from the case before removing the heatsink, and instae
CPU and heatsink before placing the new board in your case. You'll kill
a lot fewer motherboards this way. I have an antistatic mat for this
purpose, though it has a variety of uses.

You can beging the thermal pad removal before or after you install the
CPU in the new motherboard. I don't have a preference as long as it's
locked in a board to keep the pins safe. You scrape the old pad off the
heatsink and CPU die very very carefully. Some people use the edge of a
credit card, I sometimes use a shaving razor refill blade broken in half
so there is only one sharp edge (and do not saw with it for any reason).
I buff the remaining gunk off with a fresh clean cloth soaked in a bit
of acetone. I then use an alcohol swab to put a final polish on the CPU
die and heatsink.

I then install the CPU in the new board if it ins't already and squeeze
a very very tiny amount of thermal grease onto the CPU die. I then put a
plastic sandwich bag over my index finger so as not to introduce oils
from my skin to the thermal grease and gently smooth the grease out so
that it covers the entire CPU die in a very thin film. You should have
just enough grease to do this and no more. Extra grease can sometimes
act as more of an insulator than a conductor of heat. you want the CPU
die and the heatsink to be flat against each other in direct contact,
with the thermal grease filling in any tiny gaps in the materials to
assist in heat transfer. Then you carefully put the heatsink in place
(make sure the notched side goes over the lever hinge...I have seen so
called 'professionals' install heatsinks the wrong way around), clip it
down (again, carefully), and plug the fan into the motherboard header.
If your board has jumpers for proper FSB settings, set them now before
installing the board in the case, as it's so much easier.

Cheers,

Ari

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
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Matt

Williams said:
(see my recent posts starting with "The fire is out . . .)

When I receive the new motherboard from DFI (NFII Ultra Infinity), I will
need to remove my Athlon XP CPU from the damaged board, which has the
AMD-supplied heat sink and fan installed. I didn't look when I had the case
open last, but will the CPU/heat sink/fan assembly come out in one piece, or
will I have to disassemble it to get the zif lever to release?

I expect you can find basic instructions with pictures on the AMD site.
 
M

MCheu

(see my recent posts starting with "The fire is out . . .)

When I receive the new motherboard from DFI (NFII Ultra Infinity), I will
need to remove my Athlon XP CPU from the damaged board, which has the
AMD-supplied heat sink and fan installed. I didn't look when I had the case
open last, but will the CPU/heat sink/fan assembly come out in one piece, or
will I have to disassemble it to get the zif lever to release?

If I have to disassemble, is there a way to reassemble with proper thermal
contact between the CPU and heat sink? As I recall, there was a special
thermal pad on top of the CPU when I installed it.

Thanks,
Craig

The usual technique:

1. Remove the thermal pad residue. Usually, this is done by scraping
it off with a plastic card like a credit card or bank card. Most
libraries and schools use a card that's stiff enough, but obviously
that's not always the case. This is followed up by wiping with a soft
cloth that's been moistened with 99% isopropanol (available at drug
stores, 75% is often adequate).

2. Buy some thermal compound (aka thermal paste, heatsink
compound/paste/goop). Place a pea sized gob on the CPU. Spread the
stuff a bit with the card you used previously (see part 1). Don't
worry if it's not perfect, it will redistribute when you put on the
heat sink. I tend to be reluctant about recommending Radioshack for
anything, but if you can't find the stuff anywhere else, Radioshack
often has it in a resealable tube. Just be sure to read the package.
Radioshack clerks aren't known to be the most knowledgeable people and
have tried to sell me crazy glue and epoxy in the past when I asked
for heatsink compound.

3. Put on the heatsink. Follow the original installation instructions
about keeping it level with even pressure to avoid cracking or
chipping the core. attach the clips, plug in the fan.

I guess that's about it.
 

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