Taskbar won't move

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M.I.5¾ said:
There is no such thing as a 'standard' .avi file. They can be encoded in a
bewildering variety of codecs. I can view .avi files in a not so large variety of
formats, but like any PC, not all of them. Unfortunately, yours is one that I
can't read.
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Your correct, I was thinking something different, the files open in both Win MP 10
and 11 for me.


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AVI is a "wrapper". (in a sense, something like zip, except its for AV
apps).

Who knows what the limits are, on what is, and what is not, allowed to be
wrapped, however. I expect it's loosely defined in some spec somewhere.
:-)
 
Brian A. said:
Your correct, I was thinking something different, the files open in both
Win MP 10 and 11 for me.
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That will be because your PC has that particular codec installed on it. Any
AVI viewer on that PC should be able to pick the codec up and correctly
display the video.
 
Bill in Co. said:
AVI is a "wrapper". (in a sense, something like zip, except its for AV
apps).

Who knows what the limits are, on what is, and what is not, allowed to be
wrapped, however. I expect it's loosely defined in some spec somewhere.
:-)
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It's a Microsoft system. 'AVI' stands for 'Audio Video Interleave' and was
so called because the same file contained the audio and video interleaved
together. Although this doesn't sound like anything spectacular today,
previously the audio was stored in a different file to the video which would
give the early hard drive mechanisms a thorough workout. Apple achieved
something similar with their own (but otherwise incompatible) .MOV format.
As you note .AVI can use just about any codec you care to dream up or even
just raw video (making it the video equivalent of a .WAV file).

Oddly, high definition has in some ways taken a leap backwards because many
editing systems store the HD video in .M2V files with the audio being held
in an accompanying .AVI file (.AVI doesn't have to have video or indeed
audio). HD Camcorders use the highly compressed .MTS* format which can also
carry surround sound in one of the recognised formats (usually Dolby Digital
5.1).

*Usually transcoded into the similar .M2TS format at the editing stage,
which Blu-ray players understand.
 
M.I.5¾ said:
It's a Microsoft system. 'AVI' stands for 'Audio Video Interleave' and
was
so called because the same file contained the audio and video interleaved
together. Although this doesn't sound like anything spectacular today,
previously the audio was stored in a different file to the video which
would
give the early hard drive mechanisms a thorough workout.
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This must have been quite awhile ago. Like back in the late 1980's -
early 1990's (just guessing).

One advantage of that is that it's easy to clean up the audio (audio
restoration), if needbe; and once you've done that, it's done, and no
remultiplexing of the audio track with the video is required. (Not much of
a practical advantage, though).

Back at that point in time, I think audio was only in the WAV format (can't
recall for certain though). I'm guessing the compressed formats for audio
(i.e. music) weren't around back then, but I can't recall for sure, now.
IIRC, they probably came in around the 1990's.
Apple achieved
something similar with their own (but otherwise incompatible) .MOV format.
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And today we also have Microsoft's WMV format, which I think includes the
audio.

So let's summarize (correct me if I'm mistaken):
For audio and video together, we have .AVI, .MOV, and .WMV formats (for a
PC).
 
M.I.5¾ said:
That will be because your PC has that particular codec installed on it. Any AVI
viewer on that PC should be able to pick the codec up and correctly display the
video.
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I see that now after checking on other machines with different software. Had I
left them alone at the larger .wmv perhaps they would have been viewable, but they
were to large to justify keeping them. Oh well, I'll just dump that page and leave
well enough alone unless I can find a way to change them so they are viewable and
smaller in size.


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M.I.5¾ said:
That will be because your PC has that particular codec installed on it. Any AVI
viewer on that PC should be able to pick the codec up and correctly display the
video.
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Ok, I've added a 3.5 MB file showing the move from the QL area. It works in WMP on
other machines without the same software so codecs shouldn't be an issue but quality
may be.

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Bill in Co. said:
Ooops, left one out - the MPG format. Sorry about that, and corrected
below.
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There are quite a few other fomats as well, but these tend to turn up in
more specialised applications.
 
Brian A. said:
Should have included the link although it's the same as before, so here
it is:
http://basconotw.mvps.org/testpgs/tpg4.htm
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As I noted previously, different configurations seem to behave differently.
However, I believe you may have dragged it on the space surrounding that
arrow rather than on space to the right of the quick launch icons which
doesn't work on every machine I've tried.
 
M.I.5¾ said:
As I noted previously, different configurations seem to behave differently.
However, I believe you may have dragged it on the space surrounding that arrow
rather than on space to the right of the quick launch icons which doesn't work on
every machine I've tried.
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I haven't had any problems moving it on any machine, I'm not saying it won't happen
on some, ones I've tried it on have no problem with it.
I've added another one that doesn't have the chevron (double arrow) where it can be
moved from between the QL icons and the divider bar. Unfortunately it doubled in
size to the last, 6.9 MB.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/testpgs/tpg4.htm

If you've noticed, the vids were captured on machines using Classic View. Does it
not work in CV and/or the default XP eye candy view? AFAIK that's the only
configurations I'm aware of unless you mean the placement of QL on the Taskbar with
or without other toolbars added. I'm curious about it and need to check other
machines w/hopes of finding one that fails to work.

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How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
M.I.5¾ said:
As I noted previously, different configurations seem to behave differently.
However, I believe you may have dragged it on the space surrounding that arrow
rather than on space to the right of the quick launch icons which doesn't work on
every machine I've tried.
Click to expand...

The new file is down to 3.7 MB from the 6.9 MB.

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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
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