System Volume Information - where is ?

R Tin · Nov 13, 2007

Total Uninstall not able to remove a trace of an app in Sys Vol Inf, because
it was "not empty". XP help pages give location of the entry to be deleted,
is to be found in Safe Mode: in My Computer, a right click *will* bring up
sys vol inf, and from there, several mouse clicks later, presumably the
entry is found. No Sys Vol Inf appears. How to find the beast, and is it of
any importance really to correct the stored info?
TIA, any advice.
R Tin

Pegasus \(MVP\) · Nov 13, 2007

R Tin said:
Total Uninstall not able to remove a trace of an app in Sys Vol Inf,
because
it was "not empty". XP help pages give location of the entry to be
deleted,
is to be found in Safe Mode: in My Computer, a right click *will* bring
up
sys vol inf, and from there, several mouse clicks later, presumably the
entry is found. No Sys Vol Inf appears. How to find the beast, and is it
of
any importance really to correct the stored info?
TIA, any advice.
R Tin

The System Volume Information folder contains files relating
to the System Restore feature but no user files.

What do you mean with "Total Uninstall"? Did you uninstall
Windows XP? How? And how did you determine that this
folder was not empty? If Windows was "uninstalled" then
you would need third-party tools to examine the hard disk!

Lem · Nov 13, 2007

R said:
Total Uninstall not able to remove a trace of an app in Sys Vol Inf, because
it was "not empty". XP help pages give location of the entry to be deleted,
is to be found in Safe Mode: in My Computer, a right click *will* bring up
sys vol inf, and from there, several mouse clicks later, presumably the
entry is found. No Sys Vol Inf appears. How to find the beast, and is it of
any importance really to correct the stored info?
TIA, any advice.
R Tin

To add to what Pegasus said, assuming that Total Uninstall is some sort
of registry "cleaner", it is finding "a trace" of your unwanted app in
one or more of your System Restore points. If removing this trace is
more important to you than having a valid System Restore function
available, then turn off System Restore (which will purge all of the SR
points) and then turn it back on. While you're fooling around with SR,
you might as well also adjust the amount of disk space it uses to 1 GB.
See http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html#Adjust

Note that what ever this unwanted app is, it will not actually be able
to *do* anything unless you restore the SR point that includes the "trace."

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

R Tin · Nov 14, 2007

|
| | > Total Uninstall not able to remove a trace of an app in Sys Vol Inf,
| > because
| > it was "not empty". XP help pages give location of the entry to be
| > deleted,
| > is to be found in Safe Mode: in My Computer, a right click *will* bring
| > up
| > sys vol inf, and from there, several mouse clicks later, presumably the
| > entry is found. No Sys Vol Inf appears. How to find the beast, and is it
| > of
| > any importance really to correct the stored info?
| > TIA, any advice.
| > R Tin
| >
| >
|
| The System Volume Information folder contains files relating
| to the System Restore feature but no user files.
|
| What do you mean with "Total Uninstall"? Did you uninstall
| Windows XP? How? And how did you determine that this
| folder was not empty? If Windows was "uninstalled" then
| you would need third-party tools to examine the hard disk!

By "Total Uninstal", I meant the name of the uninstaller program. Title is a
boast - justified I think - that *everything* installed with the program
will be removed by "Tot Un".
I guessed that the subject folder was related to System Restore, and
therefore not very important to investigate, but was not sure. So, is it OK
to forget about trying to remove that trace ? Thanks for your input.

Pegasus \(MVP\) · Nov 14, 2007

R Tin said:
|
| | > Total Uninstall not able to remove a trace of an app in Sys Vol Inf,
| > because
| > it was "not empty". XP help pages give location of the entry to be
| > deleted,
| > is to be found in Safe Mode: in My Computer, a right click *will*
bring
| > up
| > sys vol inf, and from there, several mouse clicks later, presumably
the
| > entry is found. No Sys Vol Inf appears. How to find the beast, and is
it
| > of
| > any importance really to correct the stored info?
| > TIA, any advice.
| > R Tin
| >
| >
|
| The System Volume Information folder contains files relating
| to the System Restore feature but no user files.
|
| What do you mean with "Total Uninstall"? Did you uninstall
| Windows XP? How? And how did you determine that this
| folder was not empty? If Windows was "uninstalled" then
| you would need third-party tools to examine the hard disk!

By "Total Uninstal", I meant the name of the uninstaller program. Title is
a
boast - justified I think - that *everything* installed with the program
will be removed by "Tot Un".
I guessed that the subject folder was related to System Restore, and
therefore not very important to investigate, but was not sure. So, is it
OK
to forget about trying to remove that trace ? Thanks for your input.

Yes, you can let the System Volume Information take care of
itself. Just don't restore the machine to a point before you ran
"Total Uninstall"!

R Tin · Nov 14, 2007

|R Tin wrote:
| > Total Uninstall not able to remove a trace of an app in Sys Vol Inf,
because
| > it was "not empty". XP help pages give location of the entry to be
deleted,
| > is to be found in Safe Mode: in My Computer, a right click *will* bring
up
| > sys vol inf, and from there, several mouse clicks later, presumably the
| > entry is found. No Sys Vol Inf appears. How to find the beast, and is it
of
| > any importance really to correct the stored info?
| > TIA, any advice.
| > R Tin
| >
| >
|
| To add to what Pegasus said, assuming that Total Uninstall is some sort
| of registry "cleaner", it is finding "a trace" of your unwanted app in
| one or more of your System Restore points. If removing this trace is
| more important to you than having a valid System Restore function
| available, then turn off System Restore (which will purge all of the SR
| points) and then turn it back on. While you're fooling around with SR,
| you might as well also adjust the amount of disk space it uses to 1 GB.
| See http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html#Adjust
|
| Note that what ever this unwanted app is, it will not actually be able
| to *do* anything unless you restore the SR point that includes the
"trace."
|
| --
| Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
|
| To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
| http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

Thanks for your info and links, Lem. As I mentioned in my post above, TotUn
is an unistaller program (not a Reg Cleaner). I think that I'll not take an
inexpert chance on working with Sys Rest. unless, if I ever use that
function, it would, by picking up the trace of the unwanted, uninstalled
program, it - SysRest - would scoop up registry entries, and I don't know
what else, and clog the machine. If you have further thoughts on this, I'd
much benefit from reeading them.

R Tin · Nov 14, 2007

| ~~~~~~~~~snip

| Yes, you can let the System Volume Information take care of
| itself. Just don't restore the machine to a point before you ran
| "Total Uninstall"!

Thanks, Pegasus. Hope I didn't confuse things by snipping preceeding
comments, questions.
Am curious as to why Win XP's help files directed me to Safe Mode, my
computer to see "System Volume Information", and continue with more
mouse-dredging, when Sys Vol Inf is not there. I'd like just to see it, to
prove to myself that XP help is not referring to some flavor of XP that I
don't posess.

Lem · Nov 14, 2007

R said:
|R Tin wrote:
| > Total Uninstall not able to remove a trace of an app in Sys Vol Inf,
because
| > it was "not empty". XP help pages give location of the entry to be
deleted,
| > is to be found in Safe Mode: in My Computer, a right click *will* bring
up
| > sys vol inf, and from there, several mouse clicks later, presumably the
| > entry is found. No Sys Vol Inf appears. How to find the beast, and is it
of
| > any importance really to correct the stored info?
| > TIA, any advice.
| > R Tin
| >
| >
|
| To add to what Pegasus said, assuming that Total Uninstall is some sort
| of registry "cleaner", it is finding "a trace" of your unwanted app in
| one or more of your System Restore points. If removing this trace is
| more important to you than having a valid System Restore function
| available, then turn off System Restore (which will purge all of the SR
| points) and then turn it back on. While you're fooling around with SR,
| you might as well also adjust the amount of disk space it uses to 1 GB.
| See http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html#Adjust
|
| Note that what ever this unwanted app is, it will not actually be able
| to *do* anything unless you restore the SR point that includes the
"trace."
|
| --
| Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
|
| To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
| http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

Thanks for your info and links, Lem. As I mentioned in my post above, TotUn
is an unistaller program (not a Reg Cleaner). I think that I'll not take an
inexpert chance on working with Sys Rest. unless, if I ever use that
function, it would, by picking up the trace of the unwanted, uninstalled
program, it - SysRest - would scoop up registry entries, and I don't know
what else, and clog the machine. If you have further thoughts on this, I'd
much benefit from reeading them.

In general, the safest way to work with System Restore is through the
User Interfaces provided by Windows. For more information, see Bert
Kinney's site, which has a wealth of information about System Restore in
addition to his advice about resizing.

To remove all but the most recent SR point, start Disk Cleanup. After
the tool analyzes the disk, click the "More Options" tab, and then click
the "Clean up" button under "System Restore."

To remove ALL System Restore points, open the "System Properties" dialog
and click the "System Restore" tab. Either check the box to "Turn off
System Restore on all drives" or select an individual drive, click the
"Settings" button, and check the box in the dialog that opens (this is
also where you set the amount of space allocated to SR; as I wrote
earlier, you probably should adjust this to around 1 GB). When you turn
SR off, all existing SR points are purged; you can then turn it back on
(by unchecking the appropriate box) and a new series of SR points will
start being made.

You should only run SR on a partition that has system information
(usually C:\).

System Restore creates a cumulative list of restore points, using as
much space as it has available (by default, it takes 12% of the
partition being monitored, so, for example, if you have an 80 GB C:\
drive, SR will use 9.6 GB). Once that space is filled up with SR
points, as each new point is created, the oldest one is deleted.
Eventually, the SR point that contains the remnant of your uninstalled
application will be deleted. How long that will take will depend on how
often you create SR points and how much space is allocated for SR.

It's highly unlikely that anything that SR might restore would "clog the
machine."

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

R Tin · Nov 14, 2007

System Volume Information - where is ?

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