Symantec vs Hacktool.Flooder

[George Jnr]

Somebody told me that Symantec (Norton Anti-virus) has been unable to find a
solution for the Hacktool.Flooder virus. has anybody else heard something
simular. I personally contracted this virus some time ago and its still on
my PC, even though i have Norton Anti-Virus running with the updated virus
definitions. Symantec has told me that the most recent virus definitions
solve the problem , but despite having the updated virus definitions, I
still have the virus on my PC, and Symantec has not been able to provide a
solution.

 

[mzlindyone]

Somebody told me that Symantec (Norton Anti-virus) has been unable to find a
solution for the Hacktool.Flooder virus. has anybody else heard something
simular. I personally contracted this virus some time ago and its still on
my PC, even though i have Norton Anti-Virus running with the updated virus
definitions. Symantec has told me that the most recent virus definitions
solve the problem , but despite having the updated virus definitions, I
still have the virus on my PC, and Symantec has not been able to provide a
solution.

First of all it's not a virus. A "hacktool" manually, not
automatically, creates a threat to *other* machines. They tell you
how to remove it at
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/hacktool.flooder.html
Read the last paragraph.

If the files are residing only in your Win ME or XP system restore
files, then it's not active, and you'll have to destroy restore points
- in XP that would be ALL of them - to get rid of it. There is no
reason you have to do that. You could just leave them until they are
overwritten by subsequent restore points. If you decide you don't
mind destroying restore files, disable Restore, scan, re-enable
Restore.

Carol

 

[George Jnr]

I am installing an exe called mailbomb.exe from a setup.exe installation
file, and the mailbomb.exe. seems to be infected with Hactool.Flooder. I
have tried repairing it with Norton, but it says unable to repair. When I
delete mailbomb.exe and try re-installing setup.exe. I get Hactool.Flooder
picked up by Norton on .tmp files created by setup.exe. When i delete these
files, setup.exe creates another virus infected .tmp file with a different
name, and thats how things continue. i have scanned setup.exe and it
is clean, no hacktool.flooder picked up by NAV,

Sorry but those instructions dont remove this, so what should i do ?

I have scanned setup.exe and my PC with Norton , but no virus's detected.
bet nobody can solve this heh heh.

 

[Buffalo]

Look here for your Mailbomb.exe problem.
http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/m/mailbomb_2_0.asp
Click on some of the links on that page for more info.

Basically it sounds like you first have to End Task on the running program
'mailbomb.exe' and THEN delete mailbomb.exe from
Explorer (do a FIND for it and delete it).
BTW, why are you trying to 'install' Mailbomb?

 

[kurt wismer]

I am installing an exe called mailbomb.exe from a setup.exe installation
file, and the mailbomb.exe. seems to be infected with Hactool.Flooder. I
have tried repairing it with Norton, but it says unable to repair.

there's a terminology problem here and it's causing a conceptual
misunderstanding...

viruses are the only things that can 'infect' good files... therefore
viruses are the only things you can removed from otherwise good files...

since hacktool.flooder isn't a virus, you cannot 'repair'/'disinfect'
it... the reason is because there's nothing to salvage, by definition...

When I
delete mailbomb.exe and try re-installing setup.exe. I get Hactool.Flooder
picked up by Norton on .tmp files created by setup.exe. When i delete these
files, setup.exe creates another virus infected .tmp file with a different
name, and thats how things continue. i have scanned setup.exe and it
is clean, no hacktool.flooder picked up by NAV,

that is likely because nav is unable to properly extract the files
within setup.exe and scan them...

Sorry but those instructions dont remove this, so what should i do ?

send a sample to symantec and ask them what's going on...

I have scanned setup.exe and my PC with Norton , but no virus's detected.
bet nobody can solve this heh heh.

betting isn't good for your pocket book... you are either installing a
trojan and don't know it, or nav is false alarming... either way you
should send it to symantec - they can confirm or deny wether or not
it's actually the threat their scanner is suggesting it is and if it is
a false alarm they can probably fix their def files so as to prevent
this false alarm in the future...

 

[George Jnr]

why are you trying to 'install' Mailbomb?

Mailbomb.exe is the executable for an excellent program called
"bulk-emailer 4.5".by Ixis Research, Ltd. http://www.softstack.com.

I am just wondering if this Hacktool is not some sort of reminder that the
20-day trial period on this shareware has expired, i have my doubts, I
think its more probable that someone has
hi-jacked this shareware with a Hacktool. I would appreciate it if somebody
could download this application and test it for Hacktools before and after
the trial
period, it is really a fantastic programme,

any suggestions or advise appreciated.

 

[kurt wismer]

Mailbomb.exe is the executable for an excellent program called
"bulk-emailer 4.5".by Ixis Research, Ltd. http://www.softstack.com.

this sentence makes me seriously wonder if we should be helping you at
all...

 

[dos]

this sentence makes me seriously wonder if we should be helping you at
all...

Obviously its a tool that is used to spamming or bombing peoples inbox's,
which is why NAV detects the file as hacktool.flooder, cuz that's exactly
what it is. It's not symantec unable to clean the file or whatever, the file
is the tool. Delete it and learn not to bomb anyone's inbox's, it's and old
lame trick used to flood people on 56k modems who'd be sat there all day
downloading a 1000 worthless e-mails.

 

[George Jnr]

Actually its not, its a reputable company and its not spam software, its a
bulk e-mailer, check out the website

George
http://www.telkomsa.net

 

[mzlindyone]

Actually its not, its a reputable company and its not spam software, its a
bulk e-mailer, check out the website

Reputable according to whom, if I may ask?
If the company is so reputable, WHY would the file be named
mailbomb.exe? Do you know what mailbombing is?

I don't see the setup.exe you are describing on the site you named.
Please provide a direct URL of the file you downloaded.

Carol

 

[Santa Claus]

Actually its not, its a reputable company and its not spam software, its a
bulk e-mailer, check out the website

George
http://www.telkomsa.net

If it's such a good program.
Contact their support staff.

If it looks like a dog, it's a dog.


No Emails Please

 

[Santa Claus]

Check out.

http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/m/mailbomb.asp

For your good program name.
No Emails Please

 

[mzlindyone]

this sentence makes me seriously wonder if we should be helping you at
all...

There is nothing wrong with bulk e-mail in and of itself. Almost any
opt-in mailing list mail is "bulk". There are also legitimate bulk
mailer programs. THIS however, that installs a file called
MAILBOMB.exe, identified by Norton as a tool used by hackers, is
highly unlikely to be one of those.

George.... Just what do you intend to do with this program, or one
like it, if you ever get it installed? I have a feeling you should be
reading these:

http://www.twowriters.net/spam.htm
http://www.spamhaus.org/mailinglists.html



Carol

 

[George Jnr]

http://www.softstack.com/bemail.html

Reputable according to whom, if I may ask?
If the company is so reputable, WHY would the file be named
mailbomb.exe? Do you know what mailbombing is?

I don't see the setup.exe you are describing on the site you named.
Please provide a direct URL of the file you downloaded.

Carol

 

[George Jnr]

http://www.softstack.com/download/bemail.zip

Reputable according to whom, if I may ask?
If the company is so reputable, WHY would the file be named
mailbomb.exe? Do you know what mailbombing is?

I don't see the setup.exe you are describing on the site you named.
Please provide a direct URL of the file you downloaded.

Carol

 

[Roy]

Actually its not, its a reputable company and its not spam software, its a
bulk e-mailer, check out the website

At what point does a bulk e-mailer become a spam spewer?

It doesn't, it's one already.

The site you quoted does its best to coat this stuff with a thin veneer
of 'reputable software' - and fails.

Get lost!

Cheers,

Roy

 

[kurt wismer]

There is nothing wrong with bulk e-mail in and of itself.

except that the abuses far outnumber the legitimate uses...

Almost any
opt-in mailing list mail is "bulk". There are also legitimate bulk
mailer programs.

and how many legitimate bulk mailing private individuals have you
encountered?

THIS however, that installs a file called
MAILBOMB.exe, identified by Norton as a tool used by hackers, is
highly unlikely to be one of those.

indeed... the more he explains himself, the less i trust him...

 

[mzlindyone]

and how many legitimate bulk mailing private individuals have you
encountered?

How do you know he's a private individual? But yes, I've encountered
many individuals/small business owners who send legitimate bulk mail
for one reason or another. I've even done so myself on occasion. And
there are many more who would like to be legitimate but simply _don't
know_ how not to spam, or what spam is, or how much harm it can cause
their business, not to mention their internet access. Many times they
get the "e-mail marketing" idea from real business courses.

Carol

 

[kurt wismer]

How do you know he's a private individual?

that's the way he's presented himself...

But yes, I've encountered
many individuals/small business owners who send legitimate bulk mail
for one reason or another. I've even done so myself on occasion. And
there are many more who would like to be legitimate but simply _don't
know_ how not to spam, or what spam is, or how much harm it can cause
their business, not to mention their internet access. Many times they
get the "e-mail marketing" idea from real business courses.

i think we'll have to agree to disagree then... it's obvious that i
have my biases and you have yours...

 

[George Jnr]

http://www.telkomsa.net (your friendly ISP)

that's the way he's presented himself...


i think we'll have to agree to disagree then... it's obvious that i
have my biases and you have yours...

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