Super Admin

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Anthony

Ok maybe I shouldn't mess with it, but Iv heard of something called Super
Admin Account.
I only know about regular Admin.
What's the Super Admin, and how do I get to it.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Anthony said:
Ok maybe I shouldn't mess with it, but Iv heard of something called
Super Admin Account.
I only know about regular Admin.
What's the Super Admin, and how do I get to it.


There's no such thing, in Microsoft operating systems, as a "Super
Admin" account. The term is sometimes used by the computer illiterate
to describe the built-in local Administrator account. They're operating
under the misconception that tere are different types or levels of
Administrator. This is false. In reality, any other account, local or
domain, that has been added to the local Administrators group on the
workstation is exactly as powerful as this built-in account.


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Bruce Chambers

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Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
I

Ian D

Bruce Chambers said:
There's no such thing, in Microsoft operating systems, as a "Super Admin"
account. The term is sometimes used by the computer illiterate to
describe the built-in local Administrator account. They're operating
under the misconception that tere are different types or levels of
Administrator. This is false. In reality, any other account, local or
domain, that has been added to the local Administrators group on the
workstation is exactly as powerful as this built-in account.

One difference is that it is a true Administrator account with
constant elevated privileges, and not subject to UAC prompts,
although UAC is still running in the background. Very useful
when installing software and configuring the system, etc.
 
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Bruce Chambers

Ian said:
One difference is that it is a true Administrator account with
constant elevated privileges, and not subject to UAC prompts,
although UAC is still running in the background. Very useful
when installing software and configuring the system, etc.

There's no difference there, either.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
I

Ian D

Bruce Chambers said:
There's no difference there, either.

By, "no difference," are you referring to the fact that other
administrative users can be given the same relief from UAC
without actually turning it off, by using the local security policies
in Vista Business and Ultimate? My reference to this
Administrator account is based on its description in, "Windows
Vista Inside Out - Second Edition."
 
A

AJR

Three accounts associatd with Vista:

1. Bulit-in Administrator - default status
is disabled except when ugrading from
XP toVista. Can be enable via "net"
command

2. Administrator created via Control
Panel applet or Administrative Tools

3. Standard User created as per item #2

One difference between #1 and #2 - #2 (Administrator) functions via a
Standard User Token..
 
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Bruce Chambers

Ian said:
By, "no difference," are you referring to the fact that other
administrative users can be given the same relief from UAC
without actually turning it off, by using the local security policies
in Vista Business and Ultimate? My reference to this
Administrator account is based on its description in, "Windows
Vista Inside Out - Second Edition."


No, I'm saying that even the built-in Administrator has to deal with
the same UAC prompts. My reference for this is first-hand experience
configuring and deploying new Vista Enterprise workstations, almost daily.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
I

Ian D

Bruce Chambers said:
No, I'm saying that even the built-in Administrator has to deal with the
same UAC prompts. My reference for this is first-hand experience
configuring and deploying new Vista Enterprise workstations, almost daily.

I think we're each talking about something different here. The
administrator account I'm referring to is the, disabled by default,
Administrator account. It is definitely not subject to UAC prompts.
I've been using that account for months on 64 bit Vista Ultimate,
and have never had a UAC prompt.

Here's what Windows Vista Inside Out, Deluxe Edition says
about it:
"With default settings in Windows Vista, it does have one unique
capability: it's not subject to UAC, even when UAC is turned on
for all other users. That is, it runs with full administrative privileges
at all times and never needs your consent for elevation"
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Ian said:
I think we're each talking about something different here.

No, we're talking about precisely the same thing.
The
administrator account I'm referring to is the, disabled by default,
Administrator account.
Precisely.

It is definitely not subject to UAC prompts.

It is on every Vista Enterprise machine I've configured over the past
few months.
I've been using that account for months on 64 bit Vista Ultimate,
and have never had a UAC prompt.


And perhaps your having a consumer edition, rather than a business
edition, explains the difference.

Here's what Windows Vista Inside Out, Deluxe Edition says
about it:
"With default settings in Windows Vista, it does have one unique
capability: it's not subject to UAC, even when UAC is turned on
for all other users. That is, it runs with full administrative privileges
at all times and never needs your consent for elevation"


Yes, I've a copy of the book as well. It simply hasn't jibed with my
own experiences, in this case.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
J

Jane C

Bruce Chambers said:
No, we're talking about precisely the same thing.


It is on every Vista Enterprise machine I've configured over the past few
months.



And perhaps your having a consumer edition, rather than a business
edition, explains the difference.




Yes, I've a copy of the book as well. It simply hasn't jibed with my own
experiences, in this case.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot


Bruce,

I don't know how you've been configuring those Enterprise machines, but on
my Enterprise machines the inbuilt Administrator account, when enabled, is
not subject to any UAC prompts. UAC is never disabled on any of my
machines.
 

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