Summary of issues with VS 2005

[_AnonCoward]

I'm looking to purchase VS 2005 some time in the near future. I've read a
lot of grief on the web and in this ng as to the flaws and problems with the
VS 2005 release (and I understand MS is coming out with SP1 to address
these). What I can't seem to find is a list of the specific problems and
therefore I can't evaluate for myself whether or not I would be OK to
purchase the product now or if I should wait for the SP to come out first.


Can anyone either list the issues out there or point to a resource on the
web that gives specifics? TIA.


Ralf

 

[Cindy Winegarden]

Hi Ralf,

I'm not sure where you'll find a list of issues, but I can tell you that
service packs are free, so if you buy now you can start learning, and then
go live when the service pack comes out.

 

[Carlos J. Quintero [VB MVP]]

You can download the Express editions for free, learn the IDE, etc. and
later purchase something higher (Standard, Professional,...)

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/default.aspx

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[**Developer**]

What is missing in the Express edition?
I looked at the site and didn't see a statement like "can't save project" or
"limited life"

Thanks

 

[Homer J Simpson]

What is missing in the Express edition?
I looked at the site and didn't see a statement like "can't save project"
or "limited life"

Neither of those AFAIK.

 

[Robert Bravery]

Seems you can only connect to SQLExpress.
Well taht my limited experience so far

Robert

 

[**Developer**]

I must be missing something. Is the following true?

1) it's free

2)It can do everything I presently do with VS20003 (I do not use database)
which is basically to write a solution with many VB and C# projects in it.


Thanks

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I must be missing something. Is the following true?

1) it's free

2)It can do everything I presently do with VS20003 (I do not use database)
which is basically to write a solution with many VB and C# projects in it.

So it seems.

 

[Robert Bravery]

Yeah, But I think the point is whats missing, currently as I understand it,
you cant connect to anything but sqlexpress. And for a Database programmer,
that a big bummer. A great majority of buiseness apps are data centric. You
cant expect people to throwaway their tried and prooven database just to
test out express

Robert

 

[Cyril Gupta]

I am connecting to Jet through OleDB in VS2005 Express, and I believe you
can easily connect to damn right anything through OleDB.

So where's the problem

Cheers!
Cyril

 

[Robert Bravery]

Well,
Throu the vbexpress or C3express ide, I try and create a dbasebase
connection, select my SQl database, and get an error message, "An error
occured while establishing a connection to the server. When connecting to
SQL Server 2005, ........"
To me that cannot connect
Also there is no sql explore or server explorer tree in the database
explorer window
But in VS2003 this aproach work with no problems

If I am oing something wrong please enlighten me
Robert

 

[**Developer**]

MS is a business not a charity.

There must be many programmers that have no interest in DB.

I have trouble believing the MS just gives away a good IDE to those
programmers free.

Do you expect that there will be no SP for the express version or some other
reason why users will be almost forced to upgrade later?

I'm not anti-MS, it just that businesses do not normally (and should not)
give way products unless they see a return in the future.

I'm using VS2003 now and don't want to spend what VS2005 cost but would love
it features.

I'm afraid later I'll have to convert back to VS2003 for some reason unknown
to me now.

Hate to belabor this but I hope you'll understand and comment.


Thanks

 

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

Developer,

From Microsofts first good selling OS (Dos 1.0) has there been a development
tool for free to let people start developing for their OS and with that
makes there OS the most important one to use.

An OS has no sense if there are no programs for it. The best example for
that was a while OS/2 from IBM which was as OS better than NT. However with
almost no end user software so it died.

Microsoft needs software developers which make those programs to keep
Windows number one.

Cor

 

[Robert Bravery]

I think that the return that MS hope to see by giving away expres versions
is a captured market. Forcing me to use and develop with all MS product is
worth double what you would pay for the express verion if sold.

Robert

 

[Robert Bravery]

MS is a business not a charity.

I did not mean it that way, was mereley pointing out that there are
limitations,. Anyway, MS should not limit the product to connect to only one
version of its SQL server, I understand limiting a free package to only ms
servers, but limiting SQL2000, com on

Robert
..

 

[Robert Bravery]

True, well said

Robert

 

[**Developer**]

thanks Cor and Robert
I'll try it

I hope I can have both it and VS2003 installed at the same time

 

[mmitchell]

Absoutely. In fact I use 1.0, vs2003 and vs2005 every day.

 

[**Developer**]

thanks

 

[**Developer**]

thanks