Strange Characters When Viewing Outlook Express messages

[Pete B]

Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I get some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive. For example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre attending ..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text characters? I tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial Black and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight differences but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they might be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or changed any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3 for WinXP.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

 

[Pete B]

Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I would still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started happening and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever happened until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly they
could be summed up as "Live with it".

--
Pete B

[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive. For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text characters? I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they might be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3 for
WinXP.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period. There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to always send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's concerned.

Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started happening and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly they
could be summed up as "Live with it".

[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive. For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text characters? I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they might be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3 for
WinXP.

 

[Pete B]

That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then all the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and view them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to any one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time since I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done quite often,
that took place around that time. This is something specific to Outlook
Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other software I am
running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored right on
this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until recently, so it
is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of email client
behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox and Mozilla and
others because I have seen it in emails from those clients as well as MS
clients, or something caused by my ISP email server software somehow (which
I admit would not surprise me), or else it is something that was caused by
some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system (which is my mosty likely
suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by email, I
have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when they view
forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere near the
degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something other than my
PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period. There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to always send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly they
could be summed up as "Live with it".

[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive. For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text characters? I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3 for
WinXP.

 

[Pete B]

Strange. I opened the particular message from MS Tech which I quoted in my
original post, and looked at the message source text, where the same garbled
apostrophe characters are showing in the plain text of the source. Also if
I copy and paste the message text into Notepad, it shows the same
corruption.

Maybe it is like you say, just a sender anomaly, but if so, it is not going
to be cured by receiving massages as plain text. I am surprised it would
happen to something like MS Technotes, though; that means MS must have
changed something with whatever they use to produce the emails.


--
Pete B

That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then all the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and view them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to any one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time since I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done quite
often, that took place around that time. This is something specific to
Outlook Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other software I
am running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored right
on this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until recently,
so it is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of email
client behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox and
Mozilla and others because I have seen it in emails from those clients as
well as MS clients, or something caused by my ISP email server software
somehow (which I admit would not surprise me), or else it is something
that was caused by some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system (which is
my mosty likely suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by email,
I have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when they
view forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere near
the degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something other
than my PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period. There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to always send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly they
could be summed up as "Live with it".


[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive. For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre
attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text characters? I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or
changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3 for
WinXP.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

My only other suggestion would be to invistigate your setting(s) in View |
Encoding when reading such a message => with "Read all messages in plain
text" <= option DISABLED.

Strange. I opened the particular message from MS Tech which I quoted in
my
original post, and looked at the message source text, where the same
garbled
apostrophe characters are showing in the plain text of the source. Also
if
I copy and paste the message text into Notepad, it shows the same
corruption.

Maybe it is like you say, just a sender anomaly, but if so, it is not
going
to be cured by receiving massages as plain text. I am surprised it would
happen to something like MS Technotes, though; that means MS must have
changed something with whatever they use to produce the emails.

That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then all the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and view
them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to any one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time since I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security
service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done quite
often, that took place around that time. This is something specific to
Outlook Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other software
I
am running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored right
on this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until recently,
so it is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of email
client behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox and
Mozilla and others because I have seen it in emails from those clients as
well as MS clients, or something caused by my ISP email server software
somehow (which I admit would not surprise me), or else it is something
that was caused by some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system (which
is
my mosty likely suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by email,
I have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when they
view forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere near
the degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something other
than my PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period.
There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to always
send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Pete B wrote:
Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly
they
could be summed up as "Live with it".


[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive. For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre
attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text characters?
I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or
changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3 for
WinXP.

 

[Pete B]

I did just what you suggest before I saw your post, and I found that, in the
case of this particular message, I could get it to appear normal (rid of
garbled characters) by changing the OEx Read font options to US-Ascii, and
with the message open, using the OEx View/Encoding setting of Unicode UTF-8.
With that adjustment, the message looked OK although the font was Arial when
displayed rather than my setting Arial Black.

Didn't seem to affect the other messages when I viewed them, but I went back
to Western Euro default/US Ascii as my encoding settings.

I seem to have about a gazillion fonts on my HDD in Ctl Panel, and I browsed
but do not understand the CP Regional and Language options settings. Is
there any MSKB info or other about these settings? Help file doesn't :=).
Does the encoding affect the message when you download it, or only when you
view it?

BTW thanks for your attention to this. At least I have a bit better handle
on this.

--
Pete B

My only other suggestion would be to invistigate your setting(s) in View |
Encoding when reading such a message => with "Read all messages in plain
text" <= option DISABLED.

Strange. I opened the particular message from MS Tech which I quoted in
my
original post, and looked at the message source text, where the same
garbled
apostrophe characters are showing in the plain text of the source. Also
if
I copy and paste the message text into Notepad, it shows the same
corruption.

Maybe it is like you say, just a sender anomaly, but if so, it is not
going
to be cured by receiving massages as plain text. I am surprised it would
happen to something like MS Technotes, though; that means MS must have
changed something with whatever they use to produce the emails.

That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then all
the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and view
them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to any
one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time since I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security
service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done quite
often, that took place around that time. This is something specific to
Outlook Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other software
I
am running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored
right
on this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until
recently,
so it is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of email
client behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox and
Mozilla and others because I have seen it in emails from those clients
as
well as MS clients, or something caused by my ISP email server software
somehow (which I admit would not surprise me), or else it is something
that was caused by some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system (which
is
my mosty likely suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the
forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by
email,
I have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when they
view forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere near
the degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something other
than my PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period.
There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to always
send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Pete B wrote:
Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly
they
could be summed up as "Live with it".


[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I
get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive. For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre
attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text characters?
I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they
might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or
changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3 for
WinXP.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Encoding (not fonts) controls everything in an email message.

When reading the message in OE, the message's format (i.e., Plain Text;
RichText; HTML) plays a role, too...as does proprietary formatting (e.g.,
AOL).

Basically, OE simply does not play nicely with all encoding and
formatting...and it was never designed to do so. But this is all water
under the bridge now: All development on OE (and Windows Mail in Vista, for
that matter) stopped in June 2006...yes, while Vista was still in beta.

I did just what you suggest before I saw your post, and I found that, in
the
case of this particular message, I could get it to appear normal (rid of
garbled characters) by changing the OEx Read font options to US-Ascii, and
with the message open, using the OEx View/Encoding setting of Unicode
UTF-8.
With that adjustment, the message looked OK although the font was Arial
when
displayed rather than my setting Arial Black.

Didn't seem to affect the other messages when I viewed them, but I went
back
to Western Euro default/US Ascii as my encoding settings.

I seem to have about a gazillion fonts on my HDD in Ctl Panel, and I
browsed
but do not understand the CP Regional and Language options settings. Is
there any MSKB info or other about these settings? Help file doesn't
:=).
Does the encoding affect the message when you download it, or only when
you
view it?

BTW thanks for your attention to this. At least I have a bit better
handle
on this.

My only other suggestion would be to invistigate your setting(s) in View
|
Encoding when reading such a message => with "Read all messages in plain
text" <= option DISABLED.

Strange. I opened the particular message from MS Tech which I quoted in
my
original post, and looked at the message source text, where the same
garbled
apostrophe characters are showing in the plain text of the source. Also
if
I copy and paste the message text into Notepad, it shows the same
corruption.

Maybe it is like you say, just a sender anomaly, but if so, it is not
going
to be cured by receiving massages as plain text. I am surprised it
would
happen to something like MS Technotes, though; that means MS must have
changed something with whatever they use to produce the emails.



That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then all
the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and view
them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the
last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to any
one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time since I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security
service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done quite
often, that took place around that time. This is something specific to
Outlook Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other
software
I
am running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored
right
on this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until
recently,
so it is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of email
client behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox and
Mozilla and others because I have seen it in emails from those clients
as
well as MS clients, or something caused by my ISP email server software
somehow (which I admit would not surprise me), or else it is something
that was caused by some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system (which
is
my mosty likely suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the
forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by
email,
I have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when they
view forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere
near
the degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something other
than my PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of
recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period.
There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to always
send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Pete B wrote:
Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started
happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever
happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly
they
could be summed up as "Live with it".


[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I
get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive. For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre
attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text characters?
I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they
might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or
changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3
for
WinXP.

 

[Pete B]

Really! June 2006, whattya know....

Well, thanks, I think this has gone as far as we can go.

--
Pete B

Encoding (not fonts) controls everything in an email message.

When reading the message in OE, the message's format (i.e., Plain Text;
RichText; HTML) plays a role, too...as does proprietary formatting (e.g.,
AOL).

Basically, OE simply does not play nicely with all encoding and
formatting...and it was never designed to do so. But this is all water
under the bridge now: All development on OE (and Windows Mail in Vista,
for that matter) stopped in June 2006...yes, while Vista was still in
beta.

I did just what you suggest before I saw your post, and I found that, in
the
case of this particular message, I could get it to appear normal (rid of
garbled characters) by changing the OEx Read font options to US-Ascii,
and
with the message open, using the OEx View/Encoding setting of Unicode
UTF-8.
With that adjustment, the message looked OK although the font was Arial
when
displayed rather than my setting Arial Black.

Didn't seem to affect the other messages when I viewed them, but I went
back
to Western Euro default/US Ascii as my encoding settings.

I seem to have about a gazillion fonts on my HDD in Ctl Panel, and I
browsed
but do not understand the CP Regional and Language options settings. Is
there any MSKB info or other about these settings? Help file doesn't
:=).
Does the encoding affect the message when you download it, or only when
you
view it?

BTW thanks for your attention to this. At least I have a bit better
handle
on this.

My only other suggestion would be to invistigate your setting(s) in View
|
Encoding when reading such a message => with "Read all messages in plain
text" <= option DISABLED.

Pete B wrote:
Strange. I opened the particular message from MS Tech which I quoted
in
my
original post, and looked at the message source text, where the same
garbled
apostrophe characters are showing in the plain text of the source.
Also
if
I copy and paste the message text into Notepad, it shows the same
corruption.

Maybe it is like you say, just a sender anomaly, but if so, it is not
going
to be cured by receiving massages as plain text. I am surprised it
would
happen to something like MS Technotes, though; that means MS must have
changed something with whatever they use to produce the emails.



That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then all
the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and view
them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the
last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to any
one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time since I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security
service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done quite
often, that took place around that time. This is something specific
to
Outlook Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other
software
I
am running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored
right
on this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until
recently,
so it is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of email
client behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox and
Mozilla and others because I have seen it in emails from those clients
as
well as MS clients, or something caused by my ISP email server
software
somehow (which I admit would not surprise me), or else it is something
that was caused by some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system
(which
is
my mosty likely suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the
forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by
email,
I have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when they
view forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere
near
the degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something
other
than my PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of
recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period.
There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to always
send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Pete B wrote:
Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented
to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I
would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started
happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever
happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly
they
could be summed up as "Live with it".


[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I
get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive.
For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre
attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text
characters?
I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they
might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or
changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3
for
WinXP.

 

[Pete B]

I don't know if this applies to the current version of OEx, but I found this
MSKB article about the problem:
Article ID : 244441
Last Review : January 25, 2007
Revision : 2.1


OLEXP: Messages Received in Outlook Express Have Different Characters in the
Text
View products that this article applies to.
Article ID : 244441
Last Review : January 25, 2007
Revision : 2.1

This article was previously published under Q244441
For information about the differences between Microsoft Outlook Express and
Microsoft Outlook e-mail clients, click the following article number to view
the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
257824 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/257824/EN-US/) OL2000: Differences
Between Outlook and Outlook Express
SYMPTOMS
When you receive e-mail messages in Outlook Express, the message may contain
different characters in place of extended ASCII characters as noted in the
following example: • An exclamation point (!) may appear as +ACE-
• A quotation mark (") may appear as +ACI-
• An ampersand character (&) may appear as +ACY-
• The @ character may appear as +AEA-
• The # character may appear as +ACM-
Also, the e-mail messages may appear to contain these characters along with
Hyper-Text Markup Language (HTML) coding for HTML e-mail messages.
Back to the top

CAUSE
This behavior can occur if Outlook Express is configured to read e-mail
messages in the default encoding format regardless of the actual encoding
format specified in the header of the e-mail message.
Back to the top

RESOLUTION
To resolve this behavior, disable the "Use default encoding for all incoming
messages" feature: 1. In Outlook Express, click Options on the Tools menu.
2. Click the Read tab, and then click International Settings.
3. Click to clear the Use default encoding for all incoming messages
check box, click OK, and then click OK.

Back to the top

MORE INFORMATION
This problem typically happens when you receive a message in the UTF-7
encoding format and Outlook Express is set to use the default Western ISO
encoding format for all incoming messages. The symptoms of this problem may
be slightly different depending on the incoming message format type.

******************

--
Pete B

Encoding (not fonts) controls everything in an email message.

When reading the message in OE, the message's format (i.e., Plain Text;
RichText; HTML) plays a role, too...as does proprietary formatting (e.g.,
AOL).

Basically, OE simply does not play nicely with all encoding and
formatting...and it was never designed to do so. But this is all water
under the bridge now: All development on OE (and Windows Mail in Vista,
for
that matter) stopped in June 2006...yes, while Vista was still in beta.

I did just what you suggest before I saw your post, and I found that, in
the
case of this particular message, I could get it to appear normal (rid of
garbled characters) by changing the OEx Read font options to US-Ascii,
and
with the message open, using the OEx View/Encoding setting of Unicode
UTF-8.
With that adjustment, the message looked OK although the font was Arial
when
displayed rather than my setting Arial Black.

Didn't seem to affect the other messages when I viewed them, but I went
back
to Western Euro default/US Ascii as my encoding settings.

I seem to have about a gazillion fonts on my HDD in Ctl Panel, and I
browsed
but do not understand the CP Regional and Language options settings. Is
there any MSKB info or other about these settings? Help file doesn't
:=).
Does the encoding affect the message when you download it, or only when
you
view it?

BTW thanks for your attention to this. At least I have a bit better
handle
on this.

My only other suggestion would be to invistigate your setting(s) in View
|
Encoding when reading such a message => with "Read all messages in plain
text" <= option DISABLED.

Pete B wrote:
Strange. I opened the particular message from MS Tech which I quoted
in
my
original post, and looked at the message source text, where the same
garbled
apostrophe characters are showing in the plain text of the source.
Also
if
I copy and paste the message text into Notepad, it shows the same
corruption.

Maybe it is like you say, just a sender anomaly, but if so, it is not
going
to be cured by receiving massages as plain text. I am surprised it
would
happen to something like MS Technotes, though; that means MS must have
changed something with whatever they use to produce the emails.



That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then all
the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and view
them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the
last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to any
one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time since I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security
service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done quite
often, that took place around that time. This is something specific
to
Outlook Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other
software
I
am running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored
right
on this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until
recently,
so it is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of email
client behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox and
Mozilla and others because I have seen it in emails from those clients
as
well as MS clients, or something caused by my ISP email server
software
somehow (which I admit would not surprise me), or else it is something
that was caused by some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system
(which
is
my mosty likely suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the
forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by
email,
I have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when they
view forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere
near
the degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something
other
than my PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of
recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period.
There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to always
send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Pete B wrote:
Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented
to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I
would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started
happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever
happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly
they
could be summed up as "Live with it".


[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I
get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive.
For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre
attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text
characters?
I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use (Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they
might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or
changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3
for
WinXP.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Is "Use default encoding for all incoming messages" enabled? IIRC it isn't
enabled by default, Pete, and I would not recommend enabling it. (Like so
many other OE KB articles, KB244441 applies to OE6 despite what the APPLIES
TO section says.)

I don't know if this applies to the current version of OEx, but I found
this
MSKB article about the problem:
Article ID : 244441
Last Review : January 25, 2007
Revision : 2.1

Encoding (not fonts) controls everything in an email message.

When reading the message in OE, the message's format (i.e., Plain Text;
RichText; HTML) plays a role, too...as does proprietary formatting (e.g.,
AOL).

Basically, OE simply does not play nicely with all encoding and
formatting...and it was never designed to do so. But this is all water
under the bridge now: All development on OE (and Windows Mail in Vista,
for
that matter) stopped in June 2006...yes, while Vista was still in beta.

I did just what you suggest before I saw your post, and I found that, in
the
case of this particular message, I could get it to appear normal (rid of
garbled characters) by changing the OEx Read font options to US-Ascii,
and
with the message open, using the OEx View/Encoding setting of Unicode
UTF-8.
With that adjustment, the message looked OK although the font was Arial
when
displayed rather than my setting Arial Black.

Didn't seem to affect the other messages when I viewed them, but I went
back
to Western Euro default/US Ascii as my encoding settings.

I seem to have about a gazillion fonts on my HDD in Ctl Panel, and I
browsed
but do not understand the CP Regional and Language options settings. Is
there any MSKB info or other about these settings? Help file doesn't
:=).
Does the encoding affect the message when you download it, or only when
you
view it?

BTW thanks for your attention to this. At least I have a bit better
handle
on this.


My only other suggestion would be to invistigate your setting(s) in
View

Encoding when reading such a message => with "Read all messages in
plain
text" <= option DISABLED.

Pete B wrote:
Strange. I opened the particular message from MS Tech which I quoted
in
my
original post, and looked at the message source text, where the same
garbled
apostrophe characters are showing in the plain text of the source.
Also
if
I copy and paste the message text into Notepad, it shows the same
corruption.

Maybe it is like you say, just a sender anomaly, but if so, it is not
going
to be cured by receiving massages as plain text. I am surprised it
would
happen to something like MS Technotes, though; that means MS must
have
changed something with whatever they use to produce the emails.



That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then all
the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and view
them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the
last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to any
one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time since
I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security
service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done quite
often, that took place around that time. This is something specific
to
Outlook Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other
software
I
am running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored
right
on this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until
recently,
so it is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of email
client behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox and
Mozilla and others because I have seen it in emails from those
clients
as
well as MS clients, or something caused by my ISP email server
software
somehow (which I admit would not surprise me), or else it is
something
that was caused by some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system
(which
is
my mosty likely suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the
forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by
email,
I have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when
they
view forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere
near
the degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something
other
than my PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of
recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period.
There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to always
send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Pete B wrote:
Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented
to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I
would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started
happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever
happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but mostly
they
could be summed up as "Live with it".


[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages, I
get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive.
For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from
the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre
attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text
characters?
I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use
(Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they
might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or
changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3
for
WinXP.

 

[Pete B]

Don't post binaries in a text newsgroup. I didn't want your stupid

and crappy picture on my hard drive.

Its a copy of a MSKB article that is pertinent to the discussion. If you
have a problem with stupid and crappy MSKB articles, don't read them and
delete it from your HDD.

I don't need your rude attitude, and nobody else does either.

 

[Pete B]

Yes, it was enabled, so I disabled it. I have no idea when or how it got
set, it may have been there since I bought the PC which had Windows
installed. I had seen it before from time to time, but as I mentioned, the
MS Help system does not really give any info on what this encoding stuff is
all about, nor does it tell you what the options mean in setting it, so I
had always just left it be. I found this particular article and several
other helpful ones at an outside OEx Tips/Help/Utilities website.

--
Pete B

Is "Use default encoding for all incoming messages" enabled? IIRC it
isn't enabled by default, Pete, and I would not recommend enabling it.
(Like so many other OE KB articles, KB244441 applies to OE6 despite what
the APPLIES TO section says.)

I don't know if this applies to the current version of OEx, but I found
this
MSKB article about the problem:
Article ID : 244441
Last Review : January 25, 2007
Revision : 2.1

Encoding (not fonts) controls everything in an email message.

When reading the message in OE, the message's format (i.e., Plain Text;
RichText; HTML) plays a role, too...as does proprietary formatting
(e.g.,
AOL).

Basically, OE simply does not play nicely with all encoding and
formatting...and it was never designed to do so. But this is all water
under the bridge now: All development on OE (and Windows Mail in Vista,
for
that matter) stopped in June 2006...yes, while Vista was still in beta.

Pete B wrote:
I did just what you suggest before I saw your post, and I found that,
in
the
case of this particular message, I could get it to appear normal (rid
of
garbled characters) by changing the OEx Read font options to US-Ascii,
and
with the message open, using the OEx View/Encoding setting of Unicode
UTF-8.
With that adjustment, the message looked OK although the font was Arial
when
displayed rather than my setting Arial Black.

Didn't seem to affect the other messages when I viewed them, but I went
back
to Western Euro default/US Ascii as my encoding settings.

I seem to have about a gazillion fonts on my HDD in Ctl Panel, and I
browsed
but do not understand the CP Regional and Language options settings.
Is
there any MSKB info or other about these settings? Help file doesn't
:=).
Does the encoding affect the message when you download it, or only when
you
view it?

BTW thanks for your attention to this. At least I have a bit better
handle
on this.


My only other suggestion would be to invistigate your setting(s) in
View

Encoding when reading such a message => with "Read all messages in
plain
text" <= option DISABLED.

Pete B wrote:
Strange. I opened the particular message from MS Tech which I quoted
in
my
original post, and looked at the message source text, where the same
garbled
apostrophe characters are showing in the plain text of the source.
Also
if
I copy and paste the message text into Notepad, it shows the same
corruption.

Maybe it is like you say, just a sender anomaly, but if so, it is not
going
to be cured by receiving massages as plain text. I am surprised it
would
happen to something like MS Technotes, though; that means MS must
have
changed something with whatever they use to produce the emails.



That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then
all
the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and
view
them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the
last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to
any
one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time since
I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security
service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done quite
often, that took place around that time. This is something specific
to
Outlook Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other
software
I
am running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored
right
on this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until
recently,
so it is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of email
client behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox and
Mozilla and others because I have seen it in emails from those
clients
as
well as MS clients, or something caused by my ISP email server
software
somehow (which I admit would not surprise me), or else it is
something
that was caused by some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system
(which
is
my mosty likely suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the
forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by
email,
I have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when
they
view forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere
near
the degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something
other
than my PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of
recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period.
There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to
always
send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML) formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Pete B wrote:
Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions presented
to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I
would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started
happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever
happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but
mostly
they
could be summed up as "Live with it".


[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages,
I
get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive.
For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from
the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll
be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre
attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text
characters?
I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use
(Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they
might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or
changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed SP3
for
WinXP.

 

[ju.c]

"Don't post binaries in a text newsgroup. I didn't want

your stupid and crappy picture on my hard drive.

I don't want your stupid and crappy and useless comments
on my hard drive, "EncinoMan". Get lost!

 

[M.I.5¾]

Don't post binaries in a text newsgroup. I didn't want your stupid
and crappy picture on my hard drive.

They wouldn't be on your hard drive if you weren't stupid enough to download
them.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

www.insideoe.com is considered the OE Bible in my circle, Pete.

Yes, it was enabled, so I disabled it. I have no idea when or how it got
set, it may have been there since I bought the PC which had Windows
installed. I had seen it before from time to time, but as I mentioned,
the
MS Help system does not really give any info on what this encoding stuff
is
all about, nor does it tell you what the options mean in setting it, so I
had always just left it be. I found this particular article and several
other helpful ones at an outside OEx Tips/Help/Utilities website.

Is "Use default encoding for all incoming messages" enabled? IIRC it
isn't enabled by default, Pete, and I would not recommend enabling it.
(Like so many other OE KB articles, KB244441 applies to OE6 despite what
the APPLIES TO section says.)

I don't know if this applies to the current version of OEx, but I found
this
MSKB article about the problem:
Article ID : 244441
Last Review : January 25, 2007
Revision : 2.1
<snip>
Encoding (not fonts) controls everything in an email message.

When reading the message in OE, the message's format (i.e., Plain Text;
RichText; HTML) plays a role, too...as does proprietary formatting
(e.g.,
AOL).

Basically, OE simply does not play nicely with all encoding and
formatting...and it was never designed to do so. But this is all water
under the bridge now: All development on OE (and Windows Mail in Vista,
for
that matter) stopped in June 2006...yes, while Vista was still in beta.

Pete B wrote:
I did just what you suggest before I saw your post, and I found that,
in
the
case of this particular message, I could get it to appear normal (rid
of
garbled characters) by changing the OEx Read font options to US-Ascii,
and
with the message open, using the OEx View/Encoding setting of Unicode
UTF-8.
With that adjustment, the message looked OK although the font was
Arial
when
displayed rather than my setting Arial Black.

Didn't seem to affect the other messages when I viewed them, but I
went
back
to Western Euro default/US Ascii as my encoding settings.

I seem to have about a gazillion fonts on my HDD in Ctl Panel, and I
browsed
but do not understand the CP Regional and Language options settings.
Is
there any MSKB info or other about these settings? Help file doesn't
:=).
Does the encoding affect the message when you download it, or only
when
you
view it?

BTW thanks for your attention to this. At least I have a bit better
handle
on this.


My only other suggestion would be to invistigate your setting(s) in
View

Encoding when reading such a message => with "Read all messages in
plain
text" <= option DISABLED.

Pete B wrote:
Strange. I opened the particular message from MS Tech which I
quoted
in
my
original post, and looked at the message source text, where the same
garbled
apostrophe characters are showing in the plain text of the source.
Also
if
I copy and paste the message text into Notepad, it shows the same
corruption.

Maybe it is like you say, just a sender anomaly, but if so, it is
not
going
to be cured by receiving massages as plain text. I am surprised it
would
happen to something like MS Technotes, though; that means MS must
have
changed something with whatever they use to produce the emails.



That is just not true. For just one thing, if it were true, then
all
the
technotes I received from MS in the past going back years would
have
exhibited this corruption, but they do not, even when I open and
view
them
now. If it were as you say, this would have been happening for the
last
seven or eight years since I installed WinXP in all my emails.

As I stated, this is a recent phenomenon and *it is not unique to
any
one
sender*, it only started (as near as I can recall) in the time
since
I
installed WinXP SP3, or perhaps since one of many auto MS security
service
updates or earlier WinXP or IE or OEx updates, which were done
quite
often, that took place around that time. This is something
specific
to
Outlook Express or IE, since I do not encounter it in any other
software
I
am running, MS or non-MS such as word-processors and otherwise.

I have quite an archive of past emails, going back years and stored
right
on this PC, none of which exhibit this strange corruption until
recently,
so it is either a sender-caused effect due to some new type of
email
client behavior that affects all email clients including Firefox
and
Mozilla and others because I have seen it in emails from those
clients
as
well as MS clients, or something caused by my ISP email server
software
somehow (which I admit would not surprise me), or else it is
something
that was caused by some change in Windows OEx or IE on my system
(which
is
my mosty likely suspect).

I also highly suspect it is something on my system, because in the
forums
where I have experienced this happening when I receive postings by
email,
I have asked other members if they observe the same behavior when
they
view forum messages, and nobody else has experienced it to anywhere
near
the degree I have encountered. So I really doubt it is something
other
than my PC itself.

I am going to try running without any IE addins and see if that
does
anything, since it will eliminate all the XML and other addins of
recent
times. Maybe that has something to do with it.

--
Pete B

What you're seeing is caused by the Sender's formatting, period.
There's
nothing you can do about it except ask your correspondents to
always
send
emails to you using Plain Text (not RichText; not HTML)
formatting.

If they don't, their messages could be in Chinese as far as OE's
concerned.

Pete B wrote:
Well, commented upon, not really answered. No solutions
presented
to
eliminate the problem, only explanations of probable causes. I
would
still
like to definitively and specifdically know why this started
happening
and
how to eliminate it from occurring, because it seldom if ever
happened
until
just recently. I appreciated all the answers I did get, but
mostly
they
could be summed up as "Live with it".


[Asked/Answered in OE6 newsgroup]

Pete B wrote:
Running WinXP Pro SP3. When I open or view most OEx6 messages,
I
get
some
rather strange font characters in my email messages I receive.
For
example,
I receive the MS Technet posts and here is a line of text from
the
latest:

"First up, weâ?Tll bring you up to speed on several of the new
offerings
around Windows Vista and the upcoming Windows Client. Youâ?Tll
be
hearing
more about Windows 7 later this month, especially if youâ?Tre
attending
..."


Does anyone know how to get rid of those odd "â?T" text
characters?
I
tried
changing to different encoding settings for the fonts I use
(Arial
Black
and
Lucinda Console, Windows Euro encoding), it made some slight
differences
but
I still had strange characters here and there. It appears they
might
be
related to punctuation marks or something. I have not added or
changed
any
fonts from what I have always had, so what is going on?

BTW I am not sure but this seemed to start after I installed
SP3
for
WinXP.