Still So Easy To Hack Vista

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Doris Day

Appears it's as easy as hacking XP. Watch the video. See how a hacker can so
easily get control of a Vista box.

http://techreckoner.com/windows-vista-hacking-video/

Partial Solution (includes hoping and praying) ... keep 'dem patches coming,
not just from MickeyMouse but all the other third-party software you run.

Better Solution ... move on up to Ubuntu.

Love and Kisses,
Doris
 
Yes, Doris.

How come the Unbutu forums have itn their Main Support Categories
(213,538 Threads) (1,007,545 Posts)?
 
Yes, Doris.

How come the Unbutu forums have itn their Main Support Categories
(213,538 Threads) (1,007,545 Posts)?
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A lot of recent ones concern the just released 7.04 which, just like
anything else, has a few minor bugs - I expect they'll be pretty well
worked out in a week or so. But there aren't many about having the system
hacked - it just doesn't happen.
 
Ray

One would not cause maximum disruption by hacking Ubuntu.. that is why it
doesn't happen..


ray said:
A lot of recent ones concern the just released 7.04 which, just like
anything else, has a few minor bugs - I expect they'll be pretty well
worked out in a week or so. But there aren't many about having the system
hacked - it just doesn't happen.
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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
That's probably more of a measure of how popular ubuntu has become and
less of a measure of how secure/insecure it is.
 
Mike

And it also applies to all of the Linux distros. Nothing to gain from hacking it. And I guess that NoStop knows this also.
 
Mike said:
Ray

One would not cause maximum disruption by hacking Ubuntu.. that is why
it doesn't happen..
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The answer is a bit more involved than what your simple statement would
indicate. A target (large or small) sufficiently designed against attack
and intrusion has an upper hand over a target (large or small) that is
not so designed. http://librenix.com/?inode=21
Attack and intrusion are not impossible, but the odds of wide disruption
are slim, and probably will remain so. But believe what you will.
 
That was a set demo with no explanations. Was UAC turned on? Had any other
security features in Vista been changed from the defaults? What was the
exploit? The two error messages that came up when the exploit was shown were
conveniently out of focus.

I'm not saying Vista can't be hacked. I am saying that demo looked a little
too easy. If it was true there would be many compromised Vista zombies which
there aren't. I have done quite a bit of testing of the current exploits on
default installs of Vista. So far all I've seen is a system crash and a lot
of UAC prompts. The best/worst crashed the system forcing a hard reset.
 
Take a close look at that video. The computers are side by side and direct
connected. And it seems strange that the password is ``password cat12``
typed in on the hackers computer. Looks like a setup to me.

Linux users seem to think that it is a impenetrable fortress, I have seen
posts telling Linux noobs they don`t need any security software. Kind of
scary.
 
Minor? I downloaded and burned this version TWICE:

Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM,
AthlonTM, SempronTM)

Each attempt to install on a Pentium 4 gives me an error after selecting
install telling me to get the 32bit version as my machine doesn't support
"long".

Minor my rear end! Just like everything else when it's new, it has major
problems that need to be fixed.

What is it I'm supposed to say......oh yeah, typical linux community
requires all the end users to BETA TEST their software. Hehehehe.
 
One demo is nothing more then a rumor. Unless this can reproduced, its
nothing to talk about.
 
Justin said:
One demo is nothing more then a rumor. Unless this can reproduced, its
nothing to talk about.
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And yet, your name appears twice in this thread.


-Michael
 
Kerry said:
That was a set demo with no explanations. Was UAC turned on? Had any other
security features in Vista been changed from the defaults? What was the
exploit? The two error messages that came up when the exploit was shown
were conveniently out of focus.

I'm not saying Vista can't be hacked. I am saying that demo looked a
little too easy. If it was true there would be many compromised Vista
zombies which there aren't. I have done quite a bit of testing of the
current exploits on default installs of Vista. So far all I've seen is a
system crash and a lot of UAC prompts. The best/worst crashed the system
forcing a hard reset.
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It's fully explained in the video. You appear to be unable to comprehend.
Why would you even suggest that UAC was not turned on? It comes turned on
by default as you well know. They were demonstrating how a compromised
system let them login to the Vista box and take full control. I guess when
one is such a MickeyMouse Fan Boy, even reality can't come between you and
your mindless love of everything Microsoft. Sad. People will use Vista at
their peril and MVPs like you will not help by spreading your bullshit. The
only thing out of focus is your brains. The video was quite clear as to the
serious exploit they discovered.

Love and Kisses,
Doris
 
Very good little boy, you can count to two. Now try again and see if you
can count to three.

Had you actual read the other post you would have noticed I responded to an
ubuntu comment.

Are you up to speed yet? Or do you require further explanation?
 
norm said:
The answer is a bit more involved than what your simple statement would
indicate. A target (large or small) sufficiently designed against attack
and intrusion has an upper hand over a target (large or small) that is
not so designed. http://librenix.com/?inode=21
Attack and intrusion are not impossible, but the odds of wide disruption
are slim, and probably will remain so. But believe what you will.
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Nah...you've got that all wrong. The size of the target is most important.
If a hacker says "i hacked into an open source linux distro" you think
he has any bragging rights? Who cares? They'll just laugh at him!
But If he says "i just hacked into a bank of server 2003's", then he's
king of hill!
Frank
 
Frank said:
Nah...you've got that all wrong. The size of the target is most important.
If a hacker says "i hacked into an open source linux distro" you think he
has any bragging rights? Who cares? They'll just laugh at him!
But If he says "i just hacked into a bank of server 2003's", then he's
king of hill!
Frank
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What I find interesting is that now that Mac is becoming more and more wide
spread (for whatever reason) it's becoming more of a target and people are
quickly discovering just how unsecured OSX really is. Gee, didn't many of
us say that exact thing would happen a year or two ago?

The same would happen to linux if it ever gets big enough for anyone to
care.

side note: now michael has to count to 4, I hope he's up to it!
 
Norm

When/if Linux achieves the same status as Windows, the game as inferred by
the last paragraph will come into play..

" Of course this doesn't mean that there can never be a Linux virus
epidemic.[2] It does mean, however, that a successful Linux virus must be
well-crafted and innovative to succeed in the inhospitable Linux ecosystem.
"

norm said:
The answer is a bit more involved than what your simple statement would
indicate. A target (large or small) sufficiently designed against attack
and intrusion has an upper hand over a target (large or small) that is not
so designed. http://librenix.com/?inode=21
Attack and intrusion are not impossible, but the odds of wide disruption
are slim, and probably will remain so. But believe what you will.
Click to expand...

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
Justin said:
Very good little boy, you can count to two. Now try again and see if
you can count to three.
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Four is better.
Had you actual read the other post you would have noticed I responded to
an ubuntu comment.

Are you up to speed yet? Or do you require further explanation?
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Please, elaborate.


-Michael
 
Frank said:
Nah...you've got that all wrong. The size of the target is most important.
If a hacker says "i hacked into an open source linux distro" you think he
has any bragging rights? Who cares? They'll just laugh at him!
But If he says "i just hacked into a bank of server 2003's", then he's
king of hill!
Frank
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Although there is still some element of bragging rights among some hackers
most exploits are now found and used by criminals. The vast majority of
viruses, trojans, exploits, etc. are now done for financial gain. They are
becoming very sophisticated and very hard to detect and remove compared to a
few years ago. As it is done for money the targets vary. There are some that
go for the widest possible target. There are some that target a small
focused audience such as users at one particular company. They will use
whatever they can. They target specific OS', applications, drivers, wherever
they find a vulnerability. Linux isn't targeted much for several reasons.
The main reason is most people don't run as root. Some other reasons are:
there isn't a lot of commonality of specific versions of applications to
target, most Linux users are a little more sophisticated or knowledgeable
about computers and thus more likely to notice something is wrong, and Linux
has better separation and protection of processes than most versions of
Windows. If it becomes financially viable to target Linux (or any OS) I am
sure it will be done.
 
Doris said:
Appears it's as easy as hacking XP. Watch the video. See how a hacker can so
easily get control of a Vista box.

http://techreckoner.com/windows-vista-hacking-video/

Partial Solution (includes hoping and praying) ... keep 'dem patches coming,
not just from MickeyMouse but all the other third-party software you run.

Better Solution ... move on up to Ubuntu.

Love and Kisses,
Doris
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Hi Doris!

I just got Feisty running in a virtual machine to check it out. Lovin'
it so far. :)
 
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