still freezing and crashing

[anelej]

i've visited both papajohn's and john kelly's website,
tried changing the codecs but nothing changes, MM2 is
still doing its own thing with freezing and crashing.
what else can it be if it;s not a codec? is it because of
my graphic card?

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

This is your first post to this newsgroup, so I can't see anything else that
describes your problems or any info about your system....

...... posting specifics here is the last thing on my checklist... if you're
up to that point in it, tell us what they are and someone might be able to
help.

--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org

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[John Kelly]

Hello again,

Just a thought. Did you select all of the Codecs and renamed the lot. Was
it the version 1.5 program you used, if so did you use the Auto-Rename
option or did you do it manually.

Other than any messages that told you certain Codecs can not be renamed
because of their location or if they were of a certain name, did you get
ANY kind of error message.

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

Thanks, no apology needed and I didn't mean to lecture.... but I researched
the posts first before answering to see the history of your issues... not
finding any, I wondered if you were posting with a different name.... I was
just fishing for some more info.

I'd like to help, but there are too many variables, each system is
different.... so guessing would be all I could do.... as you said you were
already to my website. I find that lot's of people go there and don't go
thru much because there's too much.... and I find they don't try anything
either because they are confused....

Most people are successful in solving the problem. It's unusual for one to
go beyond the codecs and acceleration setting.

So a first post with not much info makes me not know if you're a confused
unskilled newbie or a pro.... or someplace between the two like me.

This really isn't for you as much as it is for the many others who read
these posts.... there's been lots of recent posts with not enough info to
make good guesses, nevermind appropriate pointers.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org

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yes, i used the 1.5 version of your program, selected all the codecs, and

auto-renamed them... only one of the codecs couldn't be renamed, but there
were no error messages.

appologies to papajohn for the lack of the specifics, but i didn't deem it

necessary considering that a lot of people have the same problem I do.

 

[John Kelly]

Hello there,

Thanks for the reply. It therefore is something in addition to a codec
problem. My program searches every folder whatever they are named looking
for the known problem Codecs. So, unless you installed Movie Maker or any
of the programs that uses one of the problem Codecs to any drive other than
the "C" drive, AND, did not search those others drives by selecting that
drive within my program, takes deep breath, your problem is something other
than one of the known Codecs.

Some games use Codecs as well, so it would be interesting to find out if
you have any games installed. The type I am interested in would require
DirectX and/or an OpenGL compatible graphics card (Quake is such a game).
OpenGL is used by quite a few video editing programs to display the preview
image. Its quick and dirty but it does the job.

So there is still plenty of scope hear just on the codec issue alone.

What I would suggest you do is go to my website and check out the FAQ on
Movie Maker and the tutorial on Disk Drives. It might help

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work

 

[Guest]

I didn't know anyone except one person had been successful in solving this problem
I tried what they Diane did according to the PapaJohn solution 7/23/03 article 825229 but had no success
Apparently Chris also tried this to no avail
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate the timeless effort PapaJohn and John Kelly have given us and others on this forum; you both are heroic

Yet, I agree with Chris, I hope a solution presents that does not include reformatting a hard drive; or for that matter uninstalling and reinstalling multiple copies of software

It seems to me that there is a fundamental difference in the way that MM2 handles stills and videos when bringing them out of the collection and into the storyboard. If there are specific libraries or routines that are used for stills and not videos it seems like the problem should be isolated to those files that provide those routines or codecs

Sadly for me, I am an end-user when it comes to this video/still business and do not have any detailed info regarding the inner workings of MM2. I would think the good people at Microsoft would have some idea though

I cannot help but speculate that my problems arose because I installed a 3rd party video suite, Pinnacle's Studio 8, and that the problem will not go away unless I run MM2 without Studio 8 installed on my machine

Despite my conjecture, I have not been able to find any specific instance on this forum or the Pinnacle forum that would suggest such a direct conflict exists

Anyhow, thanks again PapaJohn and John Kelly for all of your help so far, it is greatly appreciated by many of us

Piper

 

[Dave W]

I have had occasional MM2 crashing problems during
editing that I have tracked down to:

- Importing certain mp3 audio files. The solution is to
convert to wav file, then import to MM2.
- Importing non-AVI video clips. MM2 seems to like AVI
files best for some reason (maybe codecs?).

I am running MM2 on a slow computer (1.4 GHz). During
editing, if I don't wait for each command to complete, it
will crash MM2. For example, if I split a clip, I have
to wait for MM2 to complete the split before executing my
another editing command, otherwise MM2 crashes.

Also, MM2 can hang if you are editing a very complex
video or slide show. I just completed a slide show with
200 slides. MM2 slowed down considerably, and often hung
as the slide count increased.

MM2 is a great program, but I have found that lots of
patience is needed to actually use it. Save your project
after every 2-3 editing commands. Hope this helps.

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

Piper,

I run Pinnacle Studio 8.8 on my laptop with MM1 and MM2 and have never had a
conflict or new Movie Maker issue as a result of installing Studio.

Studio 8 came with my Dazzle 80 a few months ago and I use it regularly.

I know it doesn't help your problem(s).
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org

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I didn't know anyone except one person had been successful in solving this problem.
I tried what they Diane did according to the PapaJohn solution 7/23/03

article 825229 but had no success.

Apparently Chris also tried this to no avail.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate the timeless effort PapaJohn and

John Kelly have given us and others on this forum; you both are heroic.

Yet, I agree with Chris, I hope a solution presents that does not include

reformatting a hard drive; or for that matter uninstalling and reinstalling
multiple copies of software.

It seems to me that there is a fundamental difference in the way that MM2

handles stills and videos when bringing them out of the collection and into
the storyboard. If there are specific libraries or routines that are used
for stills and not videos it seems like the problem should be isolated to
those files that provide those routines or codecs.

Sadly for me, I am an end-user when it comes to this video/still business

and do not have any detailed info regarding the inner workings of MM2. I
would think the good people at Microsoft would have some idea though.

I cannot help but speculate that my problems arose because I installed a

3rd party video suite, Pinnacle's Studio 8, and that the problem will not go
away unless I run MM2 without Studio 8 installed on my machine.

Despite my conjecture, I have not been able to find any specific instance

on this forum or the Pinnacle forum that would suggest such a direct
conflict exists.

Anyhow, thanks again PapaJohn and John Kelly for all of your help so far,

it is greatly appreciated by many of us.

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

Dave,

I echo your comments.... I'm working on an important video that is now over
17 minutes and pretty complex.... I save every few editing steps.... and
backup the project file after every session.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org

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[John Kelly]

Hello there,

In the old days of DOS and even today with LINUX, it was often the case
that the order packages/dll's/TSR programs and the like were installed made
a huge difference on whether they worked properly or not. That exact
situation does not apply here. But it does make me wonder if installing the
programs in the opposite order might cause (or prevent) some setting or file
being changed/modified etc.

Its a slim chance, but if all of the possible causes have been
eliminated then its time to try some very unlikely causes out.

To achieve this I suggest.....

1) Uninstall the pinnacle stuff.
2) Download the full versions of Windows Media Player and DirectX 9. Do not
do an Internet install
3) Reboot & install DirectX
4) Reboot & Install WMP
5) Reboot and install either the pinnacle or MM2 program
6) Reboot and install the other program.

Which to install first I will have to leave to you to decide.

Good Luck,

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk

I didn't know anyone except one person had been successful in solving this problem.
I tried what they Diane did according to the PapaJohn solution 7/23/03

article 825229 but had no success.

Apparently Chris also tried this to no avail.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate the timeless effort PapaJohn and

John Kelly have given us and others on this forum; you both are heroic.

Yet, I agree with Chris, I hope a solution presents that does not include

reformatting a hard drive; or for that matter uninstalling and reinstalling
multiple copies of software.

It seems to me that there is a fundamental difference in the way that MM2

handles stills and videos when bringing them out of the collection and into
the storyboard. If there are specific libraries or routines that are used
for stills and not videos it seems like the problem should be isolated to
those files that provide those routines or codecs.

Sadly for me, I am an end-user when it comes to this video/still business

and do not have any detailed info regarding the inner workings of MM2. I
would think the good people at Microsoft would have some idea though.

I cannot help but speculate that my problems arose because I installed a

3rd party video suite, Pinnacle's Studio 8, and that the problem will not go
away unless I run MM2 without Studio 8 installed on my machine.

Despite my conjecture, I have not been able to find any specific instance

on this forum or the Pinnacle forum that would suggest such a direct
conflict exists.

Anyhow, thanks again PapaJohn and John Kelly for all of your help so far,

it is greatly appreciated by many of us.

 

[John Kelly]

Hello there,

Thats very kind of you to say. Thank You

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work

 

[Scott]

Same here- Great advice. Abeit frustrating, a great
excersize in patience...

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

I lucked out.... the person I'm doing the project for wants quiet and
darkness between each segment, and there are 8 segments.

So I broke the project into 8 projects and can now work quickly on each
without issues. I'll put them together into the final video.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org

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