Stephen Lebans - PositionFormRelativeToControl module

[Guest]

Thanks for the info. I have been to the mvps.org website and have found it
very helpful. I probably did not search it for a calculator because I had the
mindset that I needed to place the Windows calculator somewhere. If that was
a stupid idea and it was much better to use an Access form calculator, I
would have appreciated that someone would have mentioned that to me. I
honestly never even thought of that. OK, maybe that is my lack of experience
showing. So, instead, I asked the one person whose code I was already
using(SL) to help disect his code for me. I'm thinking that this guy wrote it
so he knows it inside and out and can probably tell me in one minute which
lines of code I need to place the Windows calculator where I want it. If
that is my misunderstanding, then I apologise for asking SL for something
that would require much more of his time.

 

[Guest]

whoa, dude! don't get your panties in a knot!
we're all familiar with mvps.org/access/netiquette
maybe you should follow some of your own advice and re-read:

Answering questions the right way: Be polite.
a. Always give people the benefit of the doubt.

The question may have seemed appropriate to the person who asked it.
No need to rip their head off. A polite reply would have sufficed.

 

[Brendan Reynolds]

For whatever it may be worth, Joey, it is not always safe to assume that the
person who wrote some code "knows it inside out". For example, I see that
the last time that Stephen updated the MonthCalendar class was in March,
2005. So you may be asking him about code that he hasn't looked at in about
16 months. My boss occasionally asks me about something I did that long ago.
My response is usually something along the lines of: "Who, me? I wrote that?
Are you sure?"

 

[Terry Kreft]

As Brendan has pointed out the date on the piece of software you are talking
about is 16 months ago. I don't know about Stephen but in that time I have
written probably 10 or 15 pieces of software and I have difficulty
remembering the details of something I wrote a month ago.

 

[Terry Kreft]

Always give people the benefit of the doubt; that means if there is room for
doubt give it, in your case of course there is no room for doubt, you went
out of your way to try and abuse a couple of long term contributors to this
NG.

For the 3rd or 4th time; the OP received polite replies; the lack of
courtesy was on the OPs part, which he now realises and puts down to his
inexperience in the NGs, that's fair enough we all need to learn. You on
the other hand continue to misrepresent what was said.

 

[Guest]

For the record: I don't agree, Terry. I don't feel that the replies
were completely polite. The first one was, but then, beginning
with DS, they became hostile and then condescending.
I admit that not knowing about integrating an Access form calculator
is a bit of inexperience, but I don't know everything - do YOU?

I don't feel that the question I asked showed a "lack of courtesy".
I believed (maybe mistakenly) that SL could look at his code and tell
me which lines of code were necessary to do what I needed. He's
the one who referenced this MonthCalendar program for me to look at.
And I believed that this process would take him a minimal amount of time.
If this were not the case, he could have easily said:
"I'm sorry but what you're looking for would take me way
to much time to come up with for you, so I'm not able to help you at this
time."
"A better way to do what you want might be to integrate an Access form....."
I would have understood this and been appreciative of the insight and
direction.
I certainly expected a kinder more understanding reply - even if
no help was forthcoming. Now, all these hostile replies makes
me feel pretty bad for even having asked a question of this NG.

Now, I'm done with this thread. It serves no good purpose.

 

[Terry Kreft]

You don't feel the answers were completely polite? Doug started out by
explaining that you were being unreasonable by expecting Stephen to do your
research for you, Stephen then told you exactly why he was too busy and they
both continued to provide suggestions. You really are an ungrateful piece
of work aren't you?

Continuing doesn't serve any purpose does it, apart from continuing to point
up that you still seem unable to see that the people who respond to
questions in here are answering in their own time, for no financial
remuneration, with no obligation, for the benefit of complete strangers.

So long as you continue with the attitude that the responders in here
somehow owe you something by simply responding you're going to continue to
rub people up the wrong way and when it's you who are trying to get someone
to do something for you for nothing, then ultimately it's you who's the
loser.

I did thnk that you were getting the idea of NGs but it looks as if I was
wrong.

To be honest I could go on all day about your shortcomings simply from the
posting below, never mind your previous posts in this thread but to be
honest I really don't think your worth my time anymore.

 

[Guest]

Terry,
You are an absolute big-mouth, know-it-all JERK!
You're right: Nobody here owes anybody anything -- other than what any
human being expects from another-- COMMON COURTESY!
That's what this whole thread is about. You don't get it, do you!
COMMON COURTESY! Grow up and act like a mature adult,
for crying out loud!

 

[Guest]

Joey - if you are still listening to this thread,
I know how you feel. I've nearly gotten beaten to death in here for
asking a question before also. Try to understand that this hostility
is not representative of all of us at this forum. Most of us realize
that we can answer a person in a civilized manner - not attack
like a rabid dog.

To address your question: go to www.worksrite.com
there is a demo calculator here made by Ron Weiner that is
excellent and can be easily integrated into your Access application.
It solves the problem of window placement and as an added bonus,
it places the result of the calulation in a text box on your form.
Hope this Helps,
George

 

[Terry Kreft]

Ah, here we get to the crux of your ability to discuss, someone disagrees so
you revert to playground insults, hardly adult behaviour on your part, is
it.

Again, the OP received common courtesy and despite his apparent expectation
that Stephen should do all his work for him he still received answers to his
questions.

Despite your apparent reversion to childish behaviour this is not a
schoolroom with teachers paid to answer all your questions (and put up with
your little tantrums), the responders in here volunteer their expertise and
time, when this conflicts with other commitments then hard-luck, when
posters go beyond the bounds the responders feel they should be going then
hard luck, it's really as simple as that.

You talk about common courtesy (actually as I'm sure you know, by NG
conventions, you shout it); it is courteous to expect just as much as people
are prepared to give when you are asking them for something for free; and it
is courteous to accept graciously when they give less than you feel you
require. You then have the option of asking again elsewhere.

 

[Terry Kreft]

That's interesting because on checking Google you've only posted to this
forum twice, that is the posting below and once in a thread with the subject
"question on creating a recordset", in which you received a single reply
from TomG which went

"
after checking references (Tools/References on VBA menubar) to be sure
that
reference to DAO is set), try

dim rs as dao.recordset

"

That's hardly being beaten to death is it?

So if we expand the search in Google we get another post from you in
microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted where again you got a single
response, interestingly from Doug Steele which went:-

"

I'm afraid Access doesn't allow anything smaller than Seconds in a
Format
statement

"

Again no sign of blood.

So unless you've changed your alias it looks like your statement in your
first paragraph below is not true, doesn't it?

From your comment about attacking like a rabid dog it seems obvious to me
that you haven't even read this thread through.