State holidays

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

I started this when I first thought this question from the OP is a
ridiculous question because there are so many regions in the world.

But because .Net has region settings where in is every comma, every winter
and summertime, every type of datestring,etc etc, than this I think is only
a little but good extention.

Regions <> countries. Holidays are defined in countries or even parts
of them. I think that's the main problem.

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Thats what I said, read me post again !

Sorry, should be a reply to Cor.

 

[Tom Leylan]

I read the thread...

The problem is (and I don't know what Windows does to know what state one is
in or what state one might be referring to) but even Daylight Savings does
not apply to the state of Hawaii and Arizona (except for the Navajo Indian
Reservation) nor does it apply in Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands or
part of the state of Indiana.

On certain years it was extended (1974 and 1975) and the rules have been
changed since the rule was enacted. The same things are true in other
countries. The fact is that nobody knows "for certain" at any point in time
in the past for a given country whether or not the country (or some part of
it) did or didn't abide by the rule.

It's a problem but it is an unfortunate fact. Windows doesn't know what
time it is in Arizona... you have to rely on the system clock or accept an
offset from the official world time. The local time and certainly holidays
aren't standardized.

 

[Tom Leylan]

Oh no doubt... lots of classes would be useful. Your wrote and I simply
agreed that it cannot be made part of the .Net framework... though clearly
some sort of template could be supplied. Perhaps an ICalendar interface if
there isn't one already.

There are banks that are open on Saturday and some are open on Sunday. Any
good help desk system should check how many people are on staff rather than
relying on "Saturday is closed" as a rule. If it determined that zero
operators were scheduled it would be able to handle situations where some
people work on Saturday. And it would be better able to calculate during
the weekdays when the number of operators rises and falls.

 

[Tom Leylan]

It might be a good idea if people looked these things up before they travel
too far down the road

Even Thanksgiving is only the 4th Thursday in November "today in the US" it
was not always that day and it isn't that day in Canada. I'm not arguing
about it BTW I'm simply pointing out that it's usefulness as "information"
depends upon what the app is expected to do.

 

[Cor]

Hi Tom,

Here in Europe we dont have that long our summertime, but it is in the
Windows system and nobody here has a problem with it. Only the guys at
Microsoft because the cannot make a good table on the web.

Cor

 

[Cor]

Hi Herfried,

I am talking about public holidays, like Easter, Chrismass, and all that not
school holidays or other.

Cor

 

[Cor]

Herfried,

I thought Austria had is own local setting or is that a part of Bohemia?

Cor

 

[Tom Leylan]

According to a few sites on the subject:
"Europe's Summer Time Period begins a week earlier than its North American
Counterpart, but ends at the same time."

Others point out that Germany adopted it in 1915, Great Britain in April
1916 but that it has alternatively used it and tried not to use it. My
point is that if you want to know what time it is you have to do much more
than simply ask. You have to supply a country name (minimally) and a date
so it can find out what rules were in effect at the time.

Look here is a chart... if everybody did it the same why would a chart even
be required?
http://riviera.angloinfo.com/information/1/dst.asp

 

[Cor]

Hi Tom,

Maybe this is in the US but in my part of the world the problems you
describe does not really exist.

Here is a list of local settings.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...fsystemglobalizationcultureinfoclasstopic.asp

You can see that by instance a country as Belgium (a lot of the regular
visitors of this newsgroup are from there EricJ, Jan and more) has two local
zones.

Cor

 

[Cor]

Herfried,

Sorry again, I don't understand.

It looks if you are angry to argue with me, angry to loose

)

Cor

 

[Cor]

Hi Tom,

Never reference about European countries so far in historie, to much is
happened in that time for old communist countries you can even not go back
before 1990.

Dont forget that we are also now more and more one country.

Cor

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

It looks if you are angry to argue with me, angry to loose

?!?

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

I am talking about public holidays, like Easter, Chrismass, and all that not
school holidays or other.

I didn't know the right meaning of "holiday". It't "Feiertag" in
German, I was thinking about "holidays" ("Ferien" in German).

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

I thought Austria had is own local setting or is that a part of Bohemia?

No, it's not part of Bohemia.

;-)))

Each districts in Austria has at least one holiday which it doesn't
share with the other districts...

 

[Cor]

Herfried,

Afraid afraid, not angry,

))))

Cor

 

[Cor]

Herfried,

Is the same in Dutch, I would write here that the word Holiday is alway a
problem for me what is the meaning when people use it.

For Dutch it is also a different meaning "christelijke of publieke feestdag"
while i mostly use holidays as vakantie (Ferien).

I have the same trouble with you with it.

Cor

 

[Cor]

Herfried,

But I think that at least

Christian Easter
Christmas
Whitsun (Pinkster)
Ascension day
Newyears day

Are in Austria all on the same day?

Cor

"> Each districts in Austria has at least one holiday which it doesn't

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Afraid afraid, not angry,

))))

))

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Is the same in Dutch, I would write here that the word Holiday is alway a
problem for me what is the meaning when people use it.

ACK. Thanks for making me aware of that...

For Dutch it is also a different meaning "christelijke of publieke feestdag"
while i mostly use holidays as vakantie (Ferien).

In Austria (German language), we say "Festtag".

I have the same trouble with you with it.

;-)