StartupControlCenter vs StartupOrganizer?

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Char said:
I assumed that you read every post in the thread, which could very
well be a bad assumption on my part. Mea culpa.

Okay, show me one where "us" (meaning not me) said something to the
effect "That there are better tools doesn't obviate that a simple tool
still has value". Yeah, I did look. There aren't any. It was about
gripes against Ken who merely said it was good enough for him and whom I
then defended by noting that msconfig does have value despite its
problems or limitation.
 
In VanguardLH typed on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 22:10:21 -0500:
The only prompt I remember seeing from using msconfig is on login to
let you know that you previously made changes to the startup
composition. It's just a warning to remind you that you used it
previously to make changes. It is NOT to alert you of changes to
startup items, only to let you know that you used it. In fact, if
you load msconfig and make *NO CHANGES* with it but click the Apply
button then you will get that warning when you next login. Nothing
changed on your host regarding the startup items but you clicked
Apply (after making no changes) rather than clicked Cancel. Clicking
Apply sets a startup reminder that appears on your next login.

The Apply button remains disabled until you make a change. So say to
deselect a startup item (so it won't load next time) but change your
mind and reselect it. It was enabled, you disabled it (so the Apply
button becomes active), but you reenable it. What the effect? Well,
there was no change in the startup list yet the bit got set that has
msconfig warn you about the non-existent change on next login.
msconfig isn't smart enough to realize there was no effective change
in the startup list, only that you managed to click the Apply button.

I've gotten nailed on that several times. I might do something, undo
it, and accidentally click Apply instead of Cancel. On next login,
yep, I get the alert but I know that there was no change.

Also, that prompt tells you that you made a change (even if you undid
it) using msconfig. It does NOT alert you to a change in startup
items due to programs adding, modifying, or deleting their startup
entries.

Yes that is the prompt that I am talking about when you Apply with
msconfig. It keeps tabs if you hit the Apply button, but not new changes
since you last ran it. Msconfig already remembers what is enabled and
what is not. And it only takes a tiny bit of extra code to also keep
track of anything that has changed since the last time. And it is these
kinds of tasks that computers do so well. And what we humans do so
poorly.
I suspect there are 2 reasons for this. One, Microsoft figures the
vast majority of users want a simple startup manager and for the type
of entries they can understand. Few users know what is a WinLogon
event, know where to look for startup/shutdown scripts in their user
profile, know how BootExecute is used. Some articles tell where to
find this stuff, like
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ee851671.aspx, yet I
still suspect there are other means of starting a process without
user intervention or notification.

It's like the 1st-year biology book only going so far into the subject
since microbiology or genetics splicing is beyond the scope of those
students. Although SysInternals' AutoRuns is a great tool, in the
hands of a noob it won't have much value. Having the tool won't give
you the expertise to use it. A scapel doesn't make you a surgeon.

You could right-click on a folder or file and go look at permissions.
Is that GUI the pentultimate method of managing permissions in
Windows? No, but how many users do you now of that are comfortable
using CACLS? Windows comes with its own firewall but why not also
include the IPsec configuration there? Even despite users
deselecting a startup item (or even deleting it) and when not using a
startup *monitor* to keep the item disabled (which only works on
filename and perhaps its path), how many users go into the group
policy settings to configure SRPs (software restriction policies) to
add a Block rule so if the item reappears that it can never run?

The tools are there but they are designed for a particular audience.
msconfig is geared for normal to above-average users, not for experts
or wizards. Giving a wizard tool to a casual Windows users isn't
going to be of much value to them. They won't know what to do with
it.

I don't even see msconfig useful for normal to above-average users
either. As it doesn't do anything more than what you can do with
regedit. Nor is it more helpful either.
I don't what marketer proposed that idea but it was to sell computers,
not to effuse truth. More accurately is that "Computers are to
maintain or raise your level of frustration." The only way to make
something like an operating system easier to a user is to hide a lot
of it from the user. Well, msconfig does that very nicely.

Computers are supposed to make tasks easier, whether you hide them from
the user that has no business changing anything or not. And some startup
listed in msconfig even I myself don't know what it is. I don't know
what it belongs to or why it is there. So how would I know if it is ok
to disable starting it up? I need more information sometimes. And
msconfig only gives you a path and that is all. You have to manually
find it yourself and then go from there. That is just crazy and not
productive at all.

For example on this machine, there is one called SkyTel.exe. And it
lives in the Windows folder. That still doesn't tell me anything. AnVir
although tells me it is Realtek's Voice Manager. Oh ok, I understand
that and it is part of my audio chip. Msconfig is totally useless here.
So it looks to be recording before exit and after reload states so it
can do a compare. It is akin to what install monitors can do (e.g.,
Zsoft's Uninstaller): you take a snapshot before and another sometime
later and then compare the two. That is more than what msconfig can
do, or even SysInterals' AutoRuns (you can do a compare between
snapshots but you do that manually, not automatically).

Msconfig already has a list of disabled startups. So it keeps track of
some of the startups already. It doesn't take much code to keep track of
the rest.
One that I recall is Apple with their QuickTime product. It adds the
qttask.exe startup item even if you disable everything in QuickTime
that has to do with this superfluous utility. "Disable" in msconfig
(and in SysInternals' AutoRuns and other similar tools) actually
moves the entry to somewhere else to store those entries but where
Windows won't see it as a startup list. So "disable" actually means
to move the entry elsewhere. When you run QuickTime, gee, it sees
its startup entry is missing so it recreates it although you didn't
want it. That's why something more than a static startup manager is
needed to monitor the reappearance of an item you disabled before and
disable it again.

Yes QuickTime was one of them. And I am not sure, but Adobe Reader might
have been another one. And I am sure there were others that did this as
well.
However, if you don't use something to "keep disabled" a startup item
and monitor for its reappearance, and whether the program covertly
re-adds the item or it's due to how you configure a program, it
re-adding that entry is not yet a duplicate. Why? Because msconfig
and AutoRuns moved the entry elsewhere. Just because it shows in the
list as deselected does not mean it still exists in that startup
location. It's been moved elsewhere but simply tracked that it was
there before. Say in msconfig that you deselect an item that was in
the HKCU Run key in the registry. The data item for that startup
item gets moved from HKCU Run to xxxx. AutoRuns has its own backup
location in the registry where it moves "disabled" items. So an
entry getting created in the HKCU Run key that happens to be the same
as the one you moved out by "disabling" it isn't really a duplicate
because currently there is just 1 such entry in the HKCU Run key.

The problem comes when you decide to reenable a previously disabled
startup item. What is msconfig or AutoRuns to do when it is told to
move back an item it previously moved into is backup registry
location? How does it know for sure that the existence of the same
exact data item name with the same exact data value is a duplicate?
Is there no case where a program may insert multiple copies of its
startup entry in the same startup location? That's logic you are
supposed to exercise. What if the program did add two identical
entries at the same startup location, like a simple scheme to protect
the process so there were two of them running and one would startup
the other if one got killed (i.e., trying to prevent the process from
getting terminated)?

msconfig only lets you disable a startup item (by moving it to
msconfig's backup location in the registry). AutoRuns uses the same
scheme to disable startup items (by moving them into AutoRun's backup
store); however, AutoRuns also lets you delete an item whether it is
in the startup location or in AutoRun's backup store (for disabled
items). Yet despite knowing how to use AutoRuns, I have accidentally
deleted a disabled item rather than reenable it. Oops, and there is
no Undo function, either. Now how to get it back in the normal
startup location? The user might have a config option in the program
that they can toggle to get it back. Yet I've seen some programs
that add their startup entry only during the installation (i.e., the
installer added the startup entry) so the user has to go ask the
software vendor or other users of the program what they should put
back into which startup location in the registry. msconfig's disable
& enable are safe whereas AutoRuns' delete is hazardous.

msconfig targets casual users. AutoRuns targets more expert users. I
wouldn't expect msconfig to do everything that AutoRuns does, nor
would I expect AutoRuns to do everything some startup monitor tool
can do.

Yes, AnVir looks like a nice tool but I personally don't have a need
to spend $50 to get all of what it provides. Freeware does me nicely
so far.

You must be talking about AnVir Task Manager Pro for 50 bucks. Sure, but
they have AnVir Task Manager Free too that doesn't cost anything. And it
has most of everything the Pro version has. There is also AnVir Task
Manager which has more than the free one, but less than the Pro for 30
bucks.

http://www.anvir.com/task-manager-windows-startup.htm
There are several defects in msconfig. Besides a fixed window size,
you can't sort by clicking on the column headers, you cannot
rearrange the columns by dragging them around, you don't get a choice
of other columns to show to get more or different info, "disable" is
misleading because the entry doesn't really get disabled (it doesn't
stay in place and some masking bit indicates the item is enabled or
disabled) but it actually gets moved elsewhere in the registry, it
enables the Apply button which will trigger the alert on your next
login even if you undid your changes (so there was no change by the
time you clicked Apply), disabling a service doesn't warn you about
other services are dependent on the one you intend to disable, and
the boot.ini tab doesn't let you actually edit the lines in that file.

There are usability problems with msconfig for which the only reason
they never got fixed is that Microsoft's developers never had to use
msconfig. My bet is they're used to directly editing the registry
(albeit through another GUI called regedit.exe since they don't
actually edit the binary database records) rather than use a GUI
front-end to the registry that will always limit what they can do.
They (or users) could replace it with AutoRuns (along with support
for the Boot.ini and selective startup modes but that means a lot of
Windows users couldn't figure out how to use that tool. Of course,
it could have a Novice and Expert switch as to what the tool presents
to the user. Yet we are talking about Windows XP here so we all know
nothing is going to change for msconfig. Development for Windows XP
died quite awhile ago.

I don't understand defending msconfig when it has so many shortcomings?
Heck I remember trying to use it to troubleshoot a problem startup. One
startup would lockup the computer. So I disabled the last half of the
list and tried that. And those were not the problem. Ran msconfig again
and now the list is totally sorted another way. You can't even use it
for basic troubleshooting unless you write all startups on a piece of
paper and keep track which one you tried disabling before. That is just
crazy. There are so many other free utilities that do it so much better
without the hassles.
 
BillW50 said:
For example on this machine, there is one called SkyTel.exe. And it
lives in the Windows folder. That still doesn't tell me anything.
AnVir although tells me it is Realtek's Voice Manager. Oh ok, I
understand that and it is part of my audio chip. Msconfig is totally
useless here.

And if the filename isn't in AnVir's database? Or it is a generic name
that many programs use (but in different paths)? For example, many
add-ons that work inside of Outlook use the Redemption.dll to get around
the old security patch for Outlook. Each add-on has to use its own
modified redemption.dll file. So you see, say, half a dozen instances
of redemption.dll on your host but unless you know what it is for then
you also won't know it was used by those half dozen add-ons you
installed that use it. While redemption.dll might be in AnVir's
database, I used that just as an example. The same filename could be
used by multiple programs but each with a different purpose, so what
good is it to see a couple dozen possibilities from a database? You
still end up having to do the research. For the listings that I
typically see in "what's that process" type of databases or lists, they
often too vague or I have to use them as hints to do further research.
And, of course, malware could call itself anything, like svchost.exe or
rundll32.exe, so what the database lists isn't what the file really is.

Yes, having a database is some help in figuring out what a file might be
for; however, the results of such are probably not much better than what
you find at the dozens of web sites that also list these same filenames
trying to give hints as to what the file might be for. I don't know how
complete is AnVir's database but I can see having a local lookup (or
even a lookup that connects to their online database) would provide a
measure of convenience. Yet I've never relied on just one source to
tell me what a file might be for.
Msconfig already has a list of disabled startups. So it keeps track of
some of the startups already. It doesn't take much code to keep track
of the rest.

You can always find a utility that does something more than the one you
are using. Should every utility then cease development until someone
comes up with every possible feature and then the others resume
development to copy that utility? I bet I can find features in freeware
that AnVir doesn't have. Does that obviate the usefulness of AnVir?
You must be talking about AnVir Task Manager Pro for 50 bucks. Sure,
but they have AnVir Task Manager Free too that doesn't cost anything.
And it has most of everything the Pro version has. There is also
AnVir Task Manager which has more than the free one, but less than
the Pro for 30 bucks.

http://www.anvir.com/task-manager-windows-startup.htm

Going down the list to see what the free AnVir will or will not do:

Well, using the free AnVir version obviates my above discussion about it
showing you want a file might be for. That database lookup isn't
included in the free version, so I'd still be doing the online research
on sites that attempt to identify a program by its filename and path.

The free AnVir version will *NOT* "permanently block undesired
processes". I don't actually need additional software to do that.
Windows already includes SRPs (software restriction policies) that will
let me block a program from loading. I can identify the program by its
filename or path or use a hash code so it gets blocked no matter were it
gets moved.

Both free AnVir and free WinPatrol will warn if new startup items
appear.

Free WinPatrol alerts me if filetype associations are changed, something
that malware or app installs sometimes do. That's not a feature listed
for the free AnVir version.

Free Winpatrol will alert when IE helpers (BHOs, add-ons) get installed.
These aren't startup items but obviously alter the behavior of that web
browser. Not a listed feature in the free AnVir version.

It can also monitor changes to the 'hosts' file, something that malware
might do to redirect you to their own malicious site or block you from
getting to Symantec, McAfee, Avast, Avira, or other security web sites.
Not a listed feature in the free AnVir version.

Free AnVir can delay the load of startup items. Free WinPatrol does
that, too. Both of them can restore the delayed startup item back to
its original startup location.

Free AnVir alerts on the discovery of new startup items. So does free
WinPatrol.

Free AnVir can throttle CPU usage for a process. This might be
sufficient to help some users recover some responsiveness of their host
to get around a CPU-intensive process. After looking at what settings
are available, I feel Process Lasso (payware) and Bill2's Process
Manager (freeware) are better choices. Process Lasso has a free version
that has more configurability and features than AnVir's CPU throttling
method but the free version of Process Lasso is nagware (shown only when
it loads so if you leave your host powered on 24x7 then you won't see
it). I don't like any nagware and why I won't use the free version of
Sandboxie. Crippling the product (Process Lasso, Sandboxie, etal)
should be the only lure used to get their users to buy the full product.
I happened to get Process Lasso Pro (payware) for free because I helped
debug a problem; otherwise, I'd be using Bill2's Process Manager.
There's also Process Tamer for free. The others have further
advantages, like priority assignment, CPU affinity, exclusion lists,
exclude foreground processes (so the program you are actually using
isn't the one that gets throttled to make it unresponsive), and even
have a portable version to eliminate having to install the program or
letting you use it elsewhere. AnVir has the advantage that
configuration of its basic CPU throttling is built into its all-in-one
GUI but the other process managers have the advantages of more control,
configurability, and features. This is typical of bundleware in that it
offers lots of different features but they aren't as robust as solutions
that are more focused on a specific function.

Free AnVir can suspend/resume processes (i.e., halt and restart them).
Better process managers do that, too.

Free AnVir includes a tweaker. There are tons of those; however, those
that need a GUI to do registry editing are often the ones that shouldn't
be doing the tweaking. I'm not saying that having a GUI frontend to do
registry edits is a bad thing *if* the user understands what the tweak
does. I remember having a tweaker (X-Setup when it was free; later it
went commercial and now it's dead) tell me that FIPS was more secure
than AES but switching to FIPS meant that I could no longer connect to
SSL-secured (HTTPS) web sites. Belarc Advisor will tell you tons of
tweaks to increase security of your host to the point that your Windows
and apps won't behave and a Windows session becomes exasperating to
experience. Having a tweaker function is, to me, just a fluff feature
since there are far more robust (hence more dangerous) tweakers out
there.

Free AnVir will show a colored bar to represent free space on a drive.
Well, yeah, that might be pretty but I don't see how that is more
functional than being told the number of free bytes by right-clicking on
a drive to look at its properties. Personally I feel something like
TreeSize Free is more useful since users are often more interested in
what is consuming the most drive space. Finding out the free space on a
drive is trivial.

With free AnVir, you can click on an app's window title to: hide a
window to the system tray, make the window semi-transparent, pin a
window so it is "always on top", change window size to 640x780 and other
sizes, and change priority of the process that owns that window. I
guess some of these are of interest to some users. I have previously
looked at free window managers that can minimize to a tray icon but I
just didn't need them (but others might like this feature). I don't if
the window size change feature actually shrinks/expands a window to the
selected size or if the window simply gets resized (but everything
within it is still at the screen resolution). Bill can answer that. A
for changing priority, I don't see the advantage of clicking on a window
to use a context-menu to change priority versus using Task Manager to
change the priority of the process but, I suppose, newbies might not
know which process owns a window (but if they don't know that then how
do they know which process they are changing priority when they click on
a window that doesn't identify the program for that window?). As for
priority management, that's something I prefer to do in a process
manager. You can have the process manager change priority based on
thresholds of CPU usage or by a list of process whose priority will get
changed no matter how they got loaded (so it's automatic instead of you
doing it manually).

So there's a lot of duplication between AnVir (free) and other freeware
solutions. There are a lot of handy little features rolled into AnVir,
even in the free version, but often users see the glitter but don't end
up using them. Yet free AnVir does roll up a bunch of features into one
product so it's bundleware worth looking at.
I don't understand defending msconfig when it has so many
shortcomings?

I still used Returnil to provide virtualized disk I/O despite that it
can generate a BSOD when I exit its protected mode. The BSOD occurs at
the end of shutdown and causes no corruption. Since exiting protected
mode requires a reboot, I'm going to be rebooting anyway even if the
BSOD happens. I might find a cure for that, like changing the install
order of Returnil and Avast (so Returnil is first), it's a defect, but
it doesn't stop me from using Returnil.

There are times when I want to use a text-only web browser. I've used
Lynx but settled on the SamSpade product which has been long abandoned.
Despite that it has some quirks, it is still usable so it still get
used.

If I didn't already have MS Office or the host and install CD got lost
or stolen, I'd move to OpenOffice despite that some of the workarounds
in OpenOffice to perform the same function in MS Word are rather obtuse
and non-intuitive.

I use Dropbox for sharing program code with a buddy despite the freebie
account is limited to just 2GB. I get up to 50GB in a free aDrive
account with 4GB the max file size for large files and can share them
from there by supplying just a URL to a recipient and continue to use it
despite their upload speed is throttle for free users.

I use Hotmail accounts despite they provide no IMAP support, only POP,
unless I use Deltasync which is only in their e-mail client that I don't
want to use. So I'm stuck using POP to use Hotmail but I still use it.

I haven't retested this but in the past SpywareBlaster would leave
behind orphaned entries in the Restricted Sites list. When you got a
new update that removed some sites, they would stick around under
Restricted Sites when you updated SpywareBlaster. They only added or
removed the sites in their current list. If sites were removed from the
current list, they wouldn't get removed from Restricted Sites on your
host. You had to delete all the Restricted Sites using SpywareBlaster
before you updated SpywareBlaster, update SpywareBlaster, and then add
the new list of Restricted Sites. Then you wouldn't get any leftovers
from their old list you had added before. Still I use SpywareBlaster.

MalwareBytes will make recommendations to change some Windows settings
only because malware might have made the changes. However, those are
the same tweaks that users can make using the normal GUI config dialogs
available in Windows. So MalwareBytes might undo your tweaks. Still I
use MalwareBytes (free version).

I use FormatFactory to convert video files to different filetypes. I
also use it to merge video files; however, if I list more than 10 files
to merge then some ffd<something> process will likely crash and I lose
the entire job. So I merge 10 files at a time, do another 10, and
continue and then follow by merging the merged files 10 at a time and so
on until they're all merged. Yep, it has a bug but it's still usable.

I still use Windows XP despite all its faults.
 
In VanguardLH wrote on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:40:27 -0500:
And if the filename isn't in AnVir's database? Or it is a generic
name that many programs use (but in different paths)? For example,
many add-ons that work inside of Outlook use the Redemption.dll to
get around the old security patch for Outlook. Each add-on has to
use its own modified redemption.dll file. So you see, say, half a
dozen instances of redemption.dll on your host but unless you know
what it is for then you also won't know it was used by those half
dozen add-ons you installed that use it. While redemption.dll might
be in AnVir's database, I used that just as an example. The same
filename could be used by multiple programs but each with a different
purpose, so what good is it to see a couple dozen possibilities from
a database? You still end up having to do the research. For the
listings that I typically see in "what's that process" type of
databases or lists, they often too vague or I have to use them as
hints to do further research. And, of course, malware could call
itself anything, like svchost.exe or rundll32.exe, so what the
database lists isn't what the file really is.

Yes, having a database is some help in figuring out what a file might
be for; however, the results of such are probably not much better
than what you find at the dozens of web sites that also list these
same filenames trying to give hints as to what the file might be for.
I don't know how complete is AnVir's database but I can see having a
local lookup (or even a lookup that connects to their online
database) would provide a measure of convenience. Yet I've never
relied on just one source to tell me what a file might be for.

I was actually using the free version for my example on my Windows 2000
machine. ALT-Enter pops up the file Properties. And right click and
select Search in Web, you have three choices. Google, Check for Registry
Errors, and Scan for Performance Errors.
You can always find a utility that does something more than the one
you are using. Should every utility then cease development until
someone comes up with every possible feature and then the others
resume development to copy that utility? I bet I can find features
in freeware that AnVir doesn't have. Does that obviate the
usefulness of AnVir?

Actually what I was getting at was msconfig is virtually useless as from
as I am concerned. And I was using AnVir Task Manager just as an example
of something far more useful than msconfig. Although speaking of which
AnVir does have tons of other features. Even that stand alone XP Tweaker
is also fabulous. And I think it would be hard to find another utility
that does as much as AnVir Task Manager does to be honest.
Going down the list to see what the free AnVir will or will not do:

Well, using the free AnVir version obviates my above discussion about
it showing you want a file might be for. That database lookup isn't
included in the free version, so I'd still be doing the online
research on sites that attempt to identify a program by its filename
and path.

It will do the lookup on the web for you, so you don't have to do it
yourself. And while that database lookup isn't worthless in the paid
versions, I don't consider it as a real handy feature.
The free AnVir version will *NOT* "permanently block undesired
processes". I don't actually need additional software to do that.
Windows already includes SRPs (software restriction policies) that
will let me block a program from loading. I can identify the program
by its filename or path or use a hash code so it gets blocked no
matter were it gets moved.

I never use any software to block either. I just add another extension
of .disable or something to the filename.
Both free AnVir and free WinPatrol will warn if new startup items
appear.

Lots of utilities also do this.
Free WinPatrol alerts me if filetype associations are changed,
something that malware or app installs sometimes do. That's not a
feature listed for the free AnVir version.

No AnVir doesn't monitor file associations.
Free Winpatrol will alert when IE helpers (BHOs, add-ons) get
installed. These aren't startup items but obviously alter the
behavior of that web browser. Not a listed feature in the free AnVir
version.

Not sure about AnVir free, but mine has five things under IE; Browser
Helper Objects, Toolbars, Extensions, URLSearchHook, and Explorer Bars.
It can also monitor changes to the 'hosts' file, something that
malware might do to redirect you to their own malicious site or block
you from getting to Symantec, McAfee, Avast, Avira, or other security
web sites. Not a listed feature in the free AnVir version.

Free AnVir can delay the load of startup items. Free WinPatrol does
that, too. Both of them can restore the delayed startup item back to
its original startup location.

Free AnVir alerts on the discovery of new startup items. So does free
WinPatrol.

Free AnVir can throttle CPU usage for a process. This might be
sufficient to help some users recover some responsiveness of their
host to get around a CPU-intensive process. After looking at what
settings are available, I feel Process Lasso (payware) and Bill2's
Process Manager (freeware) are better choices. Process Lasso has a
free version that has more configurability and features than AnVir's
CPU throttling method but the free version of Process Lasso is
nagware (shown only when it loads so if you leave your host powered
on 24x7 then you won't see it). I don't like any nagware and why I
won't use the free version of Sandboxie. Crippling the product
(Process Lasso, Sandboxie, etal) should be the only lure used to get
their users to buy the full product. I happened to get Process Lasso
Pro (payware) for free because I helped debug a problem; otherwise,
I'd be using Bill2's Process Manager. There's also Process Tamer for
free. The others have further advantages, like priority assignment,
CPU affinity, exclusion lists, exclude foreground processes (so the
program you are actually using isn't the one that gets throttled to
make it unresponsive), and even have a portable version to eliminate
having to install the program or letting you use it elsewhere. AnVir
has the advantage that configuration of its basic CPU throttling is
built into its all-in-one GUI but the other process managers have the
advantages of more control, configurability, and features. This is
typical of bundleware in that it offers lots of different features
but they aren't as robust as solutions that are more focused on a
specific function.

I too use Process Lasso Pro and I feel it is an excellent program. And I
haven't used AnVir throttling very much, so I can't tell you how well it
works. But it probably does ok and better than nothing. And while AnVir
does lots of stuff and like one of those Swiss army knife utilities, so
you can't expect every feature to be the world's best. But even still,
many of the features it does have are indeed top notch. That just isn't
one of them.
Free AnVir can suspend/resume processes (i.e., halt and restart them).
Better process managers do that, too.

True but AnVir does so much more too. It shows connections, disk usage,
files opened, devices in use, DLLs, ports in use, drivers and status,
lists invisible and internal windows, its own event logs, etc.
Free AnVir includes a tweaker. There are tons of those; however,
those that need a GUI to do registry editing are often the ones that
shouldn't be doing the tweaking. I'm not saying that having a GUI
frontend to do registry edits is a bad thing *if* the user
understands what the tweak does. I remember having a tweaker
(X-Setup when it was free; later it went commercial and now it's
dead) tell me that FIPS was more secure than AES but switching to
FIPS meant that I could no longer connect to SSL-secured (HTTPS) web
sites. Belarc Advisor will tell you tons of tweaks to increase
security of your host to the point that your Windows and apps won't
behave and a Windows session becomes exasperating to experience.
Having a tweaker function is, to me, just a fluff feature since there
are far more robust (hence more dangerous) tweakers out there.

I don't know, I really like the tweaker. It is one of the best ones I
ever seen actually. ;-)
Free AnVir will show a colored bar to represent free space on a drive.
Well, yeah, that might be pretty but I don't see how that is more
functional than being told the number of free bytes by right-clicking
on a drive to look at its properties. Personally I feel something
like TreeSize Free is more useful since users are often more
interested in what is consuming the most drive space. Finding out
the free space on a drive is trivial.

I like this one too. But lots of utilities also can do this. But if you
don't like it, turn it off. No big deal.
With free AnVir, you can click on an app's window title to: hide a
window to the system tray, make the window semi-transparent, pin a
window so it is "always on top", change window size to 640x780 and
other sizes, and change priority of the process that owns that
window. I guess some of these are of interest to some users. I have
previously looked at free window managers that can minimize to a tray
icon but I just didn't need them (but others might like this
feature).

I use all of these features from time to time. And I also like the
rollup one too. Where you can rollup a window like a rollup window
shade. ;-)
I don't if the window size change feature actually shrinks/expands a
window to the selected size or if the window simply gets resized (but
everything within it is still at the screen resolution). Bill can
answer that.

Yes this is kind of nice too. It resizes the window just like dragging a
corner of a window does, except you have predefined sizes to choice
from.
A for changing priority, I don't see the advantage of clicking on a
window to use a context-menu to change priority versus using Task
Manager to change the priority of the process but, I suppose, newbies
might not know which process owns a window (but if they don't know
that then how do they know which process they are changing priority
when they click on a window that doesn't identify the program for that
window?). As for priority management, that's something I prefer to do
in a process manager. You can have the process manager change priority
based on thresholds of CPU usage or by a list of process whose
priority will get changed no matter how they got loaded (so it's
automatic instead of you doing it manually).

It is there if you want it. And it also has priority management too.
So there's a lot of duplication between AnVir (free) and other
freeware solutions. There are a lot of handy little features rolled
into AnVir, even in the free version, but often users see the glitter
but don't end up using them. Yet free AnVir does roll up a bunch of
features into one product so it's bundleware worth looking at.

And if you are interested in the payware versions, you get it all for
one price. ;-)
I still used Returnil to provide virtualized disk I/O despite that it
can generate a BSOD when I exit its protected mode. The BSOD occurs
at the end of shutdown and causes no corruption. Since exiting
protected mode requires a reboot, I'm going to be rebooting anyway
even if the BSOD happens. I might find a cure for that, like
changing the install order of Returnil and Avast (so Returnil is
first), it's a defect, but it doesn't stop me from using Returnil.

I haven't used Returnil, I have used others like it. And when they work,
they work very well. And when they don't, they corrupt very well. So I
switched to clones and backups.
There are times when I want to use a text-only web browser. I've used
Lynx but settled on the SamSpade product which has been long
abandoned. Despite that it has some quirks, it is still usable so it
still get used.

I am not sure why you need this, but Maxthon 3 has a reader mode. It
looks a lot like print URL that some websites have a link for. No
graphics, pictures, etc. Just text and only text of the article itself.
No google ads or anything. The button doesn't show up for all web pages
though.
If I didn't already have MS Office or the host and install CD got lost
or stolen, I'd move to OpenOffice despite that some of the workarounds
in OpenOffice to perform the same function in MS Word are rather
obtuse and non-intuitive.

I wish... OpenOffice just isn't good enough for my needs. Although if
you want something close to MS Office without MS Office, Kingsoft Office
is said to be the closest. I do have Kingsoft Office Suite Professional
2012, I haven't played with it much though. As I keep using MS Office
2000. There is a free version of Kingsoft Office too.
I use Dropbox for sharing program code with a buddy despite the
freebie account is limited to just 2GB. I get up to 50GB in a free
aDrive account with 4GB the max file size for large files and can
share them from there by supplying just a URL to a recipient and
continue to use it despite their upload speed is throttle for free
users.

I use Hotmail accounts despite they provide no IMAP support, only POP,
unless I use Deltasync which is only in their e-mail client that I
don't want to use. So I'm stuck using POP to use Hotmail but I still
use it.

I haven't retested this but in the past SpywareBlaster would leave
behind orphaned entries in the Restricted Sites list. When you got a
new update that removed some sites, they would stick around under
Restricted Sites when you updated SpywareBlaster. They only added or
removed the sites in their current list. If sites were removed from
the current list, they wouldn't get removed from Restricted Sites on
your host. You had to delete all the Restricted Sites using
SpywareBlaster before you updated SpywareBlaster, update
SpywareBlaster, and then add the new list of Restricted Sites. Then
you wouldn't get any leftovers from their old list you had added
before. Still I use SpywareBlaster.

MalwareBytes will make recommendations to change some Windows settings
only because malware might have made the changes. However, those are
the same tweaks that users can make using the normal GUI config
dialogs available in Windows. So MalwareBytes might undo your
tweaks. Still I use MalwareBytes (free version).

I use it too, especially on a clean machine scanning a suspected one.
I use FormatFactory to convert video files to different filetypes. I
also use it to merge video files; however, if I list more than 10
files to merge then some ffd<something> process will likely crash and
I lose the entire job. So I merge 10 files at a time, do another 10,
and continue and then follow by merging the merged files 10 at a time
and so on until they're all merged. Yep, it has a bug but it's still
usable.

I used to use FormatFactory a lot. I haven't in awhile because I just
don't convert like I used too.
I still use Windows XP despite all its faults.

Me too. I have over a dozen XP machines and only one Windows 7/8
machine. ;-)
 
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