Special word processor needed

[Jeff Needle]

With my switch to gmail, my old word processor/e-mail program, called Yeah
Write, no longer works -- gmail doesn't have what they're calling "true
SMTP," and I can't send out my reviews.

Does anyone know of a freeware word processing system that does the
following?

I need to prepare a document (I write book reviews) and be able to e-mail it
to either a single person or to a list of people. Word and WordPerfect,
both of which I have on my system, will not put the text into the body of
the e-mail, but rather sends it as an attachment. I can't do this.

I need to retain indenting in the document. I've tried copying a document
to the clipboard and pasting it into the body of an e-mail, but the
indenting is lost.

Sheesh. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

 

[vestero]

With my switch to gmail, my old word processor/e-mail program, called Yeah
Write, no longer works -- gmail doesn't have what they're calling "true
SMTP," and I can't send out my reviews.

Does anyone know of a freeware word processing system that does the
following?

I need to prepare a document (I write book reviews) and be able to e-mail it
to either a single person or to a list of people. Word and WordPerfect,
both of which I have on my system, will not put the text into the body of
the e-mail, but rather sends it as an attachment. I can't do this.

I need to retain indenting in the document. I've tried copying a document
to the clipboard and pasting it into the body of an e-mail, but the
indenting is lost.

Sheesh. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

Do you really need a separate word processor? You could compose your
book reviews within Gmail, then save them as drafts until you are ready
to send them out.

If you do need a separate processor, try Atlantis Nova. I copy A. Nova
..rtf documents and paste them into emails all the time, without losing
formatting.

 

[Mister2u]

How to use Gmail as your STMP server
http://www.lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-111166.php

 

[Grzegorz Rumatowski]

Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:49:01 -0700, Jeff Needle wrote:

[...]

Sheesh. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

And why You don't just simple attach the file and send it?

Greg

 

[Jeff Needle]

Do you really need a separate word processor? You could compose your
book reviews within Gmail, then save them as drafts until you are ready
to send them out.

If you do need a separate processor, try Atlantis Nova. I copy A. Nova
.rtf documents and paste them into emails all the time, without losing
formatting.

This is a great lead -- thanks!

And yeah, I do prefer a separate word processor. It really expedites a lot
of things.

Thanks again.

 

[Jeff Needle]

How to use Gmail as your STMP server
http://www.lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-111166.php

This is great info, talks about checking off TLS under "secure connection."
Unfortunately, there are no options in this program -- nothing but the smtp
server, username and password. Very primitive.

Thanks for the lead.

 

[Jeff Needle]

Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:49:01 -0700, Jeff Needle wrote:

[...]

Sheesh. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

And why You don't just simple attach the file and send it?

Greg
--

Many of the reviews are for professional organizations, and they don't
accept attachments.

 

[Richard Steinfeld]

With my switch to gmail, my old word processor/e-mail program, called Yeah
Write, no longer works -- gmail doesn't have what they're calling "true
SMTP," and I can't send out my reviews.

Does anyone know of a freeware word processing system that does the
following?

I need to prepare a document (I write book reviews) and be able to e-mail it
to either a single person or to a list of people. Word and WordPerfect,
both of which I have on my system, will not put the text into the body of
the e-mail, but rather sends it as an attachment. I can't do this.

I'm not familiar with "True SMTP" or Yeah Write. However, I'm familiar
with various forms of word processor file construction, so I'll comment
from that space.

Have you considered a class of programs called "text editors," or
enlightened notepads? One thing that I like for writing is a program
that'll stay the hell out of my way. My all-time yardsticks for this are
the old DOS PC-Write, and for heavy-duty work, XyWrite.

I think that your issue regards how the text is saved: every line with
the invisible wrap symbols at the end vs. the common word processing
standard: wrapping only at the end of each entire paragraph. In
practice, when you want your text to have precise indentations that
aren't set off by tabs, the first method is the way to go, especially
when people at both ends are using a fixed-width font. This will keep
your formatting ironclad.


I've been trying out a few free text processors/fancy notepads, and I
can recommend two to you for consideration.

PSPad normally works with DOS-limited line lengths and scrolls off
screen to the right. However, you can snap the text to a defined
boundary and also (and here's the neat part) save it with wrapped lines:
lines wrapped to your pre-set margin. Print control is almost good, but
imposes some absurdities in the rigid header/footer. This program is
"almost wonderful," and may get there in one or two more iterations.

TextPad will do it all. It's nagware.
All the other notepad programs I tried weren't up to the task for
writing, although they probably are great for programmers.

MetaPad is another limited program of interest. It will let you
alternate between two pre-defined fonts (you can make one of them
fixed-width), and it'll save with wrapped lines, wrapped where they're
wrapping on-screen. Printing is limited, so the programmer has set up a
speed link to any two additional "viewers" that, presumably, have great
printing flexibility.

For me, writing with Word, and especially Word Perfect, is an agony of
sluggishness. Open Office isn't much better; in fact, it's a bit
klutzier. I'm still looking (any suggestions?).

I want it all:
- Ability to save in both paragraph-wrapped and standard ASCII line-wrapped.
- Easy, precise import/export with Word, RTF, and maybe FrameMaker.
- WYSIWYG for real.
- Fast handling (very, very important).

Richard

 

[Jeff Needle]

I thought I'd share the solution I found. It works great.

While looking around for software to fix the problem of the mailer inside
the word processor not supporting gmail's smtp capability, I found the
following program:

http://www.softstack.com/freesmtp.html

By running this program, and changing the smtp server in my word
processing software to "localhost," it bypasses gmail's smtp server, finds
a free smtp server to use, and sends the mail.

I've tested it, and it's great. Also very fast.

 

[Jeff Needle]

I've been trying out a few free text processors/fancy notepads, and I

can recommend two to you for consideration.

PSPad normally works with DOS-limited line lengths and scrolls off
screen to the right. However, you can snap the text to a defined
boundary and also (and here's the neat part) save it with wrapped lines:
lines wrapped to your pre-set margin. Print control is almost good, but
imposes some absurdities in the rigid header/footer. This program is
"almost wonderful," and may get there in one or two more iterations.

TextPad will do it all. It's nagware.
All the other notepad programs I tried weren't up to the task for
writing, although they probably are great for programmers.

MetaPad is another limited program of interest. It will let you
alternate between two pre-defined fonts (you can make one of them
fixed-width), and it'll save with wrapped lines, wrapped where they're
wrapping on-screen. Printing is limited, so the programmer has set up a
speed link to any two additional "viewers" that, presumably, have great
printing flexibility.

For me, writing with Word, and especially Word Perfect, is an agony of
sluggishness. Open Office isn't much better; in fact, it's a bit
klutzier. I'm still looking (any suggestions?).

I want it all:
- Ability to save in both paragraph-wrapped and standard ASCII
line-wrapped.
- Easy, precise import/export with Word, RTF, and maybe FrameMaker.
- WYSIWYG for real.
- Fast handling (very, very important).

Richard

All good thoughts, but this isn't the problem.

As indicated in another post just sent, I've got it all figured out now.
The problem wasn't with text wrapping or anything like that. Gmail
requires certain settings in your mailer in order for it to work. Opera,
OE, etc., all have the ability to change these settings to be compatible
with gmail. But the word processor I use, Yeah Write, from Wordplace,
Inc., doesn't have that flexibility. It is a perfect tool for me in so
many ways -- easy organization of documents, built-in address book, and
email capability so long as your smtp server doesn't require special
settings.

With the program I found, I can continue using Yeah Write and just bypass
gmail's smtp problems.

 

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

Send your e-mail in RTF (HTML), and just copy the document and paste it into
the e-mail.

Maris

 

[Jeff Needle]

Thanks for the hint. As mentioned in another post, I've resolved the
issue by using an alternative smtp program.

I appreciate the help.

 

[Little Girl]

Hey there,

For me, writing with Word, and especially Word Perfect, is an agony of
sluggishness. Open Office isn't much better; in fact, it's a bit
klutzier. I'm still looking (any suggestions?).

I want it all:
- Ability to save in both paragraph-wrapped and standard ASCII line-wrapped.
- Easy, precise import/export with Word, RTF, and maybe FrameMaker.
- WYSIWYG for real.
- Fast handling (very, very important).

You might want to take a look at RoughDraft:

Homepage: http://www.rsalsbury.co.uk/rd.htm

<quotes from the Overview page>
RoughDraft is a freeware word processor for Windows 95, 98, ME, NT,
2000 and XP. Although suitable for general use, it has features
specifically designed for creative writing: novels, short stories,
articles, plays and screenplays. It's designed to be as practical as
possible, offering all the features you need, but without being
complicated or awkward to use.

RoughDraft has the following features:

* Special modes for plays and screenplays which make formatting
easy.
* A side panel that makes common operations quicker and more
convenient.
* Instant backup of all open files to the device of your choice -
a very convenient way to make sure you don't lose your work.
* Automatic creation of cover pages for manuscript submissions
with word and page counts.
* Automatic insertion of user-defined words - for character names
or commonly used words.
* Four extra clipboards for inserting longer phrases or
paragraphs.
* A comprehensive but simple printing system, including a print
preview that shows exactly how your work will look on the page.
* Creation of HTML files of your work for publishing on the web.
* Importing of files in Word 6.0, Word 97 and HTML formats.
* Up to 100 files open at the same time.
* Spellchecking. British and American English dictionaries are
included. Dictionaries for many other languages can be downloaded.
* Live spellchecking that underlines misspelled words in red as
you type.
* A custom spellchecking dictionary so you can add your own words.
* A dictionary and thesaurus facility (provided by Anthony Lewis'
WordWeb program, which has to be installed separately - it's not
required to run RoughDraft, but strongly recommended).
* Comprehensive text and paragraph formatting options.
* Saving of files in the popular Rich Text Format (RTF), meaning
they can be opened in just about any other word processor.
* Full find and replace, including the ability to list all the
matches in the current file or in a number of files.
* Font styles for quicker formatting.
* Shortcut keys for just about everything.
* A comprehensive help system.

RoughDraft is not designed to compete with major commercial word
processors and does not provide the following features:

* A full page view for editing (although it does have a full page
view for print previewing).
* Indexes and tables of contents.
* Tables.
* Pictures.
* Footnotes.
* A grammar checker (eeurch!)
<end quotes from the Overview page>

 

[Jeff Needle]

You might want to take a look at RoughDraft:

Homepage: http://www.rsalsbury.co.uk/rd.htm

I looked at RoughDraft some time ago, I wasn't really impressed. But thanks
for the suggestion.