SP2 and SP3

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Tony Yarwood

Hi all

Quick question; do you have to have SP2 installed first before firing
in SP3 or can you if say installing a clean copy of XP go straight to
SP3?

Best regards

Tony

Google ain't your friend;
http://clusty.com/
 
Tony Yarwood said:
Hi all

Quick question; do you have to have SP2 installed first before firing
in SP3 or can you if say installing a clean copy of XP go straight to
SP3?

Best regards
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I've seen a number of posts that mentioned sp1 or sp2 being needed first
 
How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389

The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3
Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing Windows XP Service
Pack 3 (SP3)
(For a PC on which Windows XP is already installed)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us

Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsxp/cc164204.aspx

Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929/en-us

List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/

Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3.
Also includes troubleshooting information.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us

How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of Windows XP Service Pack
3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us

Free unlimited installation and compatibility support
(Via Email, Chat or Phone support)
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode:
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353

Where to download SP3
SP3 file download:
(File is large but will only install components that you PC requires)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en

ISO image - used to create install CD:
(You must have CD burning software that can use an ISO as source)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ce-b5fb-4488-8c50-fe22559d164e&DisplayLang=en


SP3 Issues:
Error message when you try to install Windows XP Service Pack 3:
"Access is denied" or "Service Pack installation did not complete"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377/en-us

You do not have enough free disk space on %SystemDrive% to install Service
Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949385

You receive a "Stop 0x0000007E" error message after you upgrade to Windows
XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3 on a non-Intel-processor-based computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888372

From: Jesper Johansson's blog
Does your AMD-based computer boot after installing XP SP3?
(Affects AMD-based computers with OEM images, primarily HP Desktops)
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jes...ed-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx

Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update,
from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after
you repair a Windows XP installation
(This KB article may also solve SP3 Windows Update will not work problem)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144

How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 3 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950249/en-us

JS
 
If you downloaded the file and read it, then you are reading wrong. You SP1
minimum to install SP3.
 
From: "Tony Yarwood" <[email protected]>

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| Thanks Nonny, the way I read that; you can just go ahead with SP3 and
| forget the rest, unless I'm reading it wrong!
|
| Best regards
|
| Tony
|
| Google ain't your friend;
| http://clusty.com/

It is a cumulative update. Go straight to SP3.

The only flavour I have not updated yet is XP Gold (pre SP1, or XP w/o a service pack).
I have had no problems upgrading from SP1 --> SP3.
 
Tony Yarwood said:
Hi all

Quick question; do you have to have SP2 installed first before firing
in SP3 or can you if say installing a clean copy of XP go straight to
SP3?

Best regards

Tony
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As long as the XP install has at least SP1 installed, you do not need to
install any other updates before SP3.

HTH
-pk
 
Tony said:
Many thanks for the info.

Best regards

Tony

Google ain't your friend;
http://clusty.com/
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Sp3 should install just fine if you don't have any sps installed. I
just made my own xp cd with sp3 using the first version of xp. I
installed windows xp using that xp cd that I created with sp3 on my
niece's dell and voila. Everything installed like a dream.
 
Hi all

Quick question; do you have to have SP2 installed first before firing
in SP3 or can you if say installing a clean copy of XP go straight to
SP3?
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Thanks everybody for your fast and informative replies, I've grabbed a
copy of SP1a and everything is hunky dory :)

Best regards

Tony

Google ain't your friend;
http://clusty.com/
 
Tony Yarwood said:
Thanks everybody for your fast and informative replies, I've grabbed a
copy of SP1a and everything is hunky dory :)
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I would also suggest that you get a copy of Autostreamer and try to
slipstream SP3 onto your install CD. This will make later re-installs and
repairs much, much easier.

Note that some OEM CDs cannot be slipstreamed if they have other updates
applied. Unfortunately, one of the only ways to find out is to try.

HTH
-pk
 
Hello Tony,

A person DOES need either SP1 or SP2 to be installed in order to install
SP3.

SP3 will NOT install directly on top on just XP 'gold.'

Alan
 
Ramone said:
If you downloaded the file and read it, then you are reading wrong. You SP1
minimum to install SP3.
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Ramone, where did you get this idea?

The Microsoft page Nonny cited, http://tinyurl.com/2denpw , says
"Windows® XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) includes all previously released
updates for the operating system."

And, under System Requirements, it can be installed on any of:
Windows XP;
Windows XP Home Edition;
Windows XP Home Edition N;
Windows XP Media Center Edition;
Windows XP Professional Edition;
Windows XP Professional N;
Windows XP Service Pack 1;
Windows XP Service Pack 2;
Windows XP Starter Edition;
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition

Since XP alone is on the list, I conclude that SP1 is not required.

- Rich
 
Patrick said:
As long as the XP install has at least SP1 installed, you do not need to
install any other updates before SP3.
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SP1 is not required. You can go straight from the original XP.

According to the Microsoft page http://tinyurl.com/2denpw
"Windows® XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) includes all previously released
updates for the operating system."

And, under System Requirements, it can be installed on any of:
Windows XP;
Windows XP Home Edition;
Windows XP Home Edition N;
Windows XP Media Center Edition;
Windows XP Professional Edition;
Windows XP Professional N;
Windows XP Service Pack 1;
Windows XP Service Pack 2;
Windows XP Starter Edition;
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition

Since XP alone is on the list, I conclude that SP1 is not required.

- Rich
 
SP1 is not required. You can go straight from the original XP.

According to the Microsoft page http://tinyurl.com/2denpw
"Windows® XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) includes all previously released
updates for the operating system."

And, under System Requirements, it can be installed on any of:
Windows XP;
Windows XP Home Edition;
Windows XP Home Edition N;
Windows XP Media Center Edition;
Windows XP Professional Edition;
Windows XP Professional N;
Windows XP Service Pack 1;
Windows XP Service Pack 2;
Windows XP Starter Edition;
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition

Since XP alone is on the list, I conclude that SP1 is not required.

- Rich
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Hmm..that's the way I first read it as well, then everybody jumped in
and said different. Would be nice to be clarified, not having to
install SP1a would sure save a lot of time!

Best regards

Tony

Google ain't your friend;
http://clusty.com/
 
What you are reading is the requirements for the "Overview of Windows XP
Service Pack 3 ". You have to download "Overview of Windows XP Service Pack
3" and read that and you will see that SP1 minimum is needed.
 
Thanks Nonny, the way I read that; you can just go ahead with SP3 and
forget the rest, unless I'm reading it wrong!
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You didn't read far enough.

Download one of the three documents that you can access from that
article and you will see that SP1 or SP2 is a requirement:

"SP3 is cumulative, so users can install SP3 on top of Windows XP SP1
or SP2.

Windows XP SP3 supports the same languages as Windows XP did in its
initial release.

You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 or
SP2."
 
What you are reading is the requirements for the "Overview of Windows XP
Service Pack 3 ". You have to download "Overview of Windows XP Service Pack
3" and read that and you will see that SP1 minimum is needed.
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Well that clears that up..many thanks for your time and trouble :)

Best regards

Tony

Google ain't your friend;
http://clusty.com/
 
Rich said:
Patrick Keenan wrote:




SP1 is not required. You can go straight from the original XP.
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Did you actually try this? Do you have a Gold XP cd that you can use to
install XP without any service packs and then apply SP3 to the virgin
installation that has no service packs installed? If the answer to
these questions is "no" don't present your opinions as facts.

According to the Microsoft page http://tinyurl.com/2denpw
"Windows® XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) includes all previously released
updates for the operating system."

And, under System Requirements, it can be installed on any of:
Windows XP;
Windows XP Home Edition;
Windows XP Home Edition N;
Windows XP Media Center Edition;
Windows XP Professional Edition;
Windows XP Professional N;
Windows XP Service Pack 1;
Windows XP Service Pack 2;
Windows XP Starter Edition;
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition

Since XP alone is on the list, I conclude that SP1 is not required.
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You concluded wrong, if you read here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 you will find that:

"You must have either Windows XP Service Pack 1a or Windows XP Service
Pack 2 installed in order to install Windows XP Service Pack 3."

Your conclusions or notions as are just that, you are not helping any
one by spreading incorrect information.

John
 
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