Slipstreaming WinXP with SP3

[Greg Strong]

Hello All,

Is it possible to slipstream (i.e. combining) WinXP original with SP3?

Related info on combining WinXP original (Or SP1) with SP2:
see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/
see http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html

I haven't upgraded to SP3 as of yet. I'm waiting to see if any major
issues. I know it hasn't been long since SP3 has been release, however
I thought that I'd ask the question since it removes all of the online
updates from SP2 to SP3. I'm thinking about re-configuring my system, so
a lot of time would be saved. TIA!

 

[Big Al]

Hello All,

Is it possible to slipstream (i.e. combining) WinXP original with SP3?

Related info on combining WinXP original (Or SP1) with SP2:
see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/
see http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html

I haven't upgraded to SP3 as of yet. I'm waiting to see if any major
issues. I know it hasn't been long since SP3 has been release, however
I thought that I'd ask the question since it removes all of the online
updates from SP2 to SP3. I'm thinking about re-configuring my system, so
a lot of time would be saved. TIA!

nlite is a program that will do it.
http://www.lancelhoff.com/2008/03/12/how-to-slipstream-service-pack-3-into-windows-xp/

Google 'slipstream SP3' you will get tons of links. Quite a few
refer to program A or program B. I don't know what you have.
To slipstream SP3 into your CD is the same as SP2.

 

[Greg Strong]

nlite is a program that will do it.
http://www.lancelhoff.com/2008/03/12/how-to-slipstream-service-pack-3-into-windows-xp/

Google 'slipstream SP3' you will get tons of links. Quite a few
refer to program A or program B. I don't know what you have.
To slipstream SP3 into your CD is the same as SP2.

The only programs I used to slipstream SP2 other than WinXP bootable OS
were the following:
1) Bart's Bootable Image Extractor (BBIE) per MS's KB
2) Nero to burn bootable image from combined files per MS's KB

The 1st was noted in the MS KB which was my 1st link above, and the 2nd
was noted in the HelpWithWindows link which was my 2nd link above. Not
to difficult. Looks like the nLite combines the 2 programs into 1, and
allows using Express version of Nero or other burnable ISO software
which usually comes with a DVD/CD RW drive.

I probably can use the same process (i.e. /integrate switch) on SP3.

Thanks for the info!

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Actually, I firmly beleive that only SP1 OR SP2 is needed before the second
and final slipstream, but not both when building on XP Gold.

XP SP1 + SP3 produces the same result as XP SP2 + SP3, unlike the very
suspect Vista Gold slipstream product. As far as I have been able to
determine, it makes no difference what the combination is on the first pass,
just that there needs to be one if the user is building on XP Gold.

 

[Big Al]

The only programs I used to slipstream SP2 other than WinXP bootable OS
were the following:
1) Bart's Bootable Image Extractor (BBIE) per MS's KB
2) Nero to burn bootable image from combined files per MS's KB

The 1st was noted in the MS KB which was my 1st link above, and the 2nd
was noted in the HelpWithWindows link which was my 2nd link above. Not
to difficult. Looks like the nLite combines the 2 programs into 1, and
allows using Express version of Nero or other burnable ISO software
which usually comes with a DVD/CD RW drive.

I probably can use the same process (i.e. /integrate switch) on SP3.

Thanks for the info!

If you know the integrate command, yes that worked for me too.
Nlite allows you to add KB updates, changed settings, remove windows
software etc. So much more than just the integrate command.

Just test before you commit!

 

[Greg Strong]

Only after you have slipstreamed it with SP1... and it is recommended
that you also then slipstream SP2 before slipstreaming SP3.

This seems to contradict MS's own KB per
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/. Says original or "may also
contain SP1". Has there been experience that contrary to MS's KB? TIA!

 

[Greg Strong]

If you know the integrate command, yes that worked for me too.
Nlite allows you to add KB updates, changed settings, remove windows
software etc. So much more than just the integrate command.

Just test before you commit!

Probably and test are key operative words.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

Only after you have slipstreamed it with SP1... and it is recommended
that you also then slipstream SP2 before slipstreaming SP3.

This is completely incorrect. You can slipstream XP SP3 with XP gold
version . I have done it and it does install without problems. The
only difference is that you need to provide the product key during
installation procedure rather than have the option to defer entering it
after is complete. Try it before writing anything about something you
have no knowledge of.
installation
As far as updating of the system is concerned, yes you need to have
either SP1a or SP2 before SP3 can be installed. The reason is that SP3
is not able to update certain files which are used by XP when it is
running. Slipstream process does not have this problem because it is
only updating the files in a folder copied from the original CD.

hth

 

[ANONYMOUS]

This seems to contradict MS's own KB per
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/. Says original or "may also
contain SP1". Has there been experience that contrary to MS's KB? TIA!

Greg,

You can slipstream on original XP as I have said in my previous
message. The difference is also explained in that message. I have done
it, and tested it. It is 100% as good as slipstreaming with either SP1a
or SP2.

hth

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Yes, slipstreaming works, but according to the MS SP3 beta team the
resulting OS that installs is defective. Argue with them.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

Where is your source? Provide the link please.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

The information I have I got from the SP3 team during beta testing. The SP3
beta newsgroups are closed so I cannot copy and paste from the beta ng
anymore. Do as you want, but be aware of the issue.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

Mr PD43,

Have you read this document:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0BE-8D85-6BB4F56F5110&displaylang=en#filelist>

I suggest read the section which says: Deploying Windows XP SP3. This
is on page 11. It says very clearly and I quote:

"You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 or
SP2. For example, you can
run the SP3 update package on a computer running the Windows XP Media
Center Edition with SP1. The
exceptions are Embedded editions for XP."

The last sentence says it all. The exceptions are Embedded editions of
XP. Now with all your intelligence, explain to me why there was a need
to have this exception?

Please note that we are not talking about running or installing SP3; we
are talking about EMBEDDING sp3 using the same terminology as Microsoft
but you may call it slipstreaming SP3 - it means one and the same thing
for our purpose.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

The information I have I got from the SP3 team during beta testing.
The SP3 beta newsgroups are closed so I cannot copy and paste from the
beta ng anymore. Do as you want, but be aware of the issue.

There are no issues with embedded editions of XP3. You have failed to
produce any shred of evidence in this respect.

 

[Big Al]

The exceptions are Embedded editions for XP."

we are talking about EMBEDDING sp3 using the same terminology as Microsoft
but you may call it slipstreaming SP3 - it means one and the same thing
for our purpose.

Embedding is not slipstream. Windows XP embedded is XPe. See below.

For anyone's info. An embedded system is more like a single chip rather
than PC. Or it was when my son was doing EE work at the university.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Embedded#Windows_XP_Embedded

Extract, the 2nd paragraph might explain.:
Windows XP Embedded, commonly abbreviated "XPe", is a componentized
version of the Professional edition of Windows XP. An original equipment
manufacturer is free to choose only the components needed thereby
reducing operating system footprint and also reducing attack area as
compared with XP Professional. Unlike Windows CE, Microsoft's operating
system for portable devices and consumer electronics, XP Embedded
provides the full Windows API, and support for the full range of
applications and device drivers written for Microsoft Windows. The
system requirements state that XPe can run on devices with at least 32MB
Compact Flash, 32MB RAM and a P-200 microprocessor. XPe was released on
November 28, 2001. As of February 2007, the newest release is Windows XP
Embedded SP2 Feature Pack 2007.

The devices targeted for XPe have included automatic teller machines,
arcade games, slot machines, cash registers, industrial robotics, thin
clients, set-top boxes, network attached storage (NAS), time clocks,
navigation devices, etc.[20] Custom versions of the OS can be deployed
onto anything but a full-fledged PC; even though XPe supports the same
hardware that XP Professional supports (x86 architecture), licensing
restrictions prevent it from being deployed on to standard PCs.

 

[RJK]

Troll !!!!

Cast you eye through this NG and you'll quickly spot that Colin Barnhorst
has more expertise in XP than you could even possibly dream of !

regards, Richard
(ANONYMOUSE is off to the kilfile)

 

[Nepatsfan]

Answered inline.

Mr PD43,

Have you read this document:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0BE-8D85-6BB4F56F5110&displaylang=en#filelist>

I suggest read the section which says: Deploying Windows XP SP3. This is on
page 11. It says very clearly and I quote:

"You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 or SP2.
For example, you can
run the SP3 update package on a computer running the Windows XP Media Center
Edition with SP1. The
exceptions are Embedded editions for XP."

The last sentence says it all. The exceptions are Embedded editions of XP.
Now with all your intelligence, explain to me why there was a need to have
this exception?

When the article talks about "Embedded editions of XP", it's referring to the
version described on this MS web site.

Windows Embedded.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/products/wexpe/default.mspx

Here's another article you might want to look at.

Windows XP Embedded
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Embedded#Windows_XP_Embedded

Please note that we are not talking about running or installing SP3; we are
talking about EMBEDDING sp3 using the same terminology as Microsoft but you
may call it slipstreaming SP3 - it means one and the same thing for our
purpose.

Sorry, not the same terminology.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you.

<snipped>

Nepatsfan

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Embedded? Did you mean to say "integrated"? That would be what I would
call an XP cd that was produced at a given service pack level so that the
installed OS from it did not have any overt evidence of an earlier service
pack level (such as entries in Add/Remove).

 

[ANONYMOUS]

RJK,

Colin Barnhost has certainly more expertise than you have. I have not
claimed that he is a complete idiot. What I have said that he is
spreading erroneous information about slipstreaming SP3 with XP (Gold )
version. There is absolutely no need to have any service packs
integrated prior to to integrating SP3 with XP (Gold).

I do not wish to spend any time on this because there are people out
there who wants their problems solved.

Thank you for this post.