single user mode

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Bob Campbell

Using Windows Vista, how do I remote desktop to a Windows Server 2008
computer running terminal services in single user mode?

(I know how to remote desktop to my Windows Server 2008 computer running
terminal services. I don't know about the single user mode).

Apparently, I'm not in single user mode, because the remote desktop shows
the Vista theme, but not the full Aero experience.

Reference: Introducing Windows Server 2008, by Mitch Tulloch, Microsoft
Press. Page 196, about half way down.

Thanks.
 
J

Jon Wallace

Hi Bob,

If you run MSTSC.EXE /? you will see that there is a /ADMIN switch you can
pass to the tool - this will in essence connect you to the server's console
session which is what I think you want.

Regards,
Jon

www.insidetheregistry.com
 
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Jon Wallace

Bob, have you checked your RDP client - as in the 'Experience' tab which
allows you to select the options such as themes etc?

Make sure that everything is checked to give you full capabilities...

Regards,
Jon

www.insidetheregistry.com

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Bob Campbell

Hi Jon. Yes, all seven checkboxes on the Experience tab are checked on in my
RDC 6 client. I'm getting the Windows Vista Basic theme showing on the
remote desktop, which is nice, but I haven't figured out how to get the
Windows Aero (transparency) color theme option on the Appearance tab (on the
Window Color and Appearance option window). Are you hinting/suggesting I
should be able to get it with Server 2008 R1?
 
J

Jon Wallace

No, not really hinting and in fact have never really tried to do this...
Just trying to suggest things that may prevent it.

I'm not actually sure I believe you can get Aero over RDP - it's a
graphically intensive operation which wouldn't lend itself to remote
desktop.

I'll have to give this a blast myself...

Regards,

Jon

www.insidetheregistry.com
 
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+Bob+

No, not really hinting and in fact have never really tried to do this...
Just trying to suggest things that may prevent it.

I'm not actually sure I believe you can get Aero over RDP - it's a
graphically intensive operation which wouldn't lend itself to remote
desktop.

I'll have to give this a blast myself...

Aero is a pig, Why on earth would anyone want to run it under RDP
(even if it would) ?
 
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Synapse Syndrome [KGB]

Jon Wallace said:
I'm not actually sure I believe you can get Aero over RDP - it's a
graphically intensive operation which wouldn't lend itself to remote
desktop.

No, Aero works fine through RDP, as long as both computers are capable. It
is not graphically intensive either. RDP works on symbols, rather than
bitmap graphics, like something like VNC. That is why it works much more
fluidly through low bandwidth connections.

The Aero Glass renders locally when used through RDP. Think about it: it
has to render what is underneath the window on the local machine, not
remote.

ss.
 
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Synapse Syndrome [KGB]

Bob Campbell said:
Using Windows Vista, how do I remote desktop to a Windows Server 2008
computer running terminal services in single user mode?

(I know how to remote desktop to my Windows Server 2008 computer running
terminal services. I don't know about the single user mode).

Apparently, I'm not in single user mode, because the remote desktop shows
the Vista theme, but not the full Aero experience.

Reference: Introducing Windows Server 2008, by Mitch Tulloch, Microsoft
Press. Page 196, about half way down.


I can't remember if it is available without installing the Terminal Services
role, but in TS Manager, or one of the other MMC snap-ins, you should be
able to right click the connection and enable 32-bit colour, or untick the
box to restrict colour depth, on one of the tabs. Tell me if this works.

ss.
 
B

Bob Campbell

I can get 32-bit color depth, and I can get Vista Basic, which is nice, but
I want to get Vista Aero.
Bob
 
B

Bob Campbell

It's hardly a pig. I'm on a 100 megabit network. But my client has a 1 GB
fiber optic to the desktop. The application is an image database with
considerable data traffic and RDP solves that.
 
B

+Bob+

It's hardly a pig. I'm on a 100 megabit network. But my client has a 1 GB
fiber optic to the desktop. The application is an image database with
considerable data traffic and RDP solves that.

The network is not the real issue. Aero is a pig on the system it's
running on. Try shutting it on the system it's on and running classic
Windows. Watch the system speed up dramatically.

RDP is already generally slow. Vista is slow in any I/O operation.
They probably disable Aero to fight the slowness.
 
S

Synapse Syndrome [KGB]

+Bob+ said:
The network is not the real issue. Aero is a pig on the system it's
running on. Try shutting it on the system it's on and running classic
Windows. Watch the system speed up dramatically.

No, Aero in fact can speed the machine up, as the desktop rendering is done
by the GPU, offloading the CPU. If you find that Aero slows the machine
down, you must have some old cheap onboard graphics. With Classic, the CPU
does all the work, which can slow down all the other processes, if they are
CPU intensive.
RDP is already generally slow. Vista is slow in any I/O operation.

RDP is not slow at all. I do a lot of remoteing, and have tried a lot of
different solutions, and there is nothing I have found that works faster
than RDP. The version of RDP used in Live Mesh is very good as well. VNC
is very slow in comparison, as it works by sending bitmap graphics, instead
of symbols representing objects.

The RDP in Win7/2008 R2 is even better - you can now stream video through
it.
They probably disable Aero to fight the slowness.

Explain how Aero is going to affect the speed of RDP, please.

ss.
 

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