simple home lan problems

[Guest]

I have a Dell PC running Windows XP and a Compaq laptop running Windows 98.
Both identified as Dell & Compaq under work group "Dunromin". Both are
equipped with Ethernet cards and connected to a D-Link router. I can access
the internet from the Dell but not the compaq. I have run the network set up
wizard but the two computers do not recognize each other. I have had the
network operational some time ago (before the laptop travelled) so I know
that it can be done, but after two days of frustration I still cannot get it
going. I know I must have one or more settings wrong. I am hopeful that
someone will be able to guide me through this problem as my next alternative
is to try to fix it with a hammer. Has anyone got any ideas? Thanks

 

[Chuck]

I have a Dell PC running Windows XP and a Compaq laptop running Windows 98.
Both identified as Dell & Compaq under work group "Dunromin". Both are
equipped with Ethernet cards and connected to a D-Link router. I can access
the internet from the Dell but not the compaq. I have run the network set up
wizard but the two computers do not recognize each other. I have had the
network operational some time ago (before the laptop travelled) so I know
that it can be done, but after two days of frustration I still cannot get it
going. I know I must have one or more settings wrong. I am hopeful that
someone will be able to guide me through this problem as my next alternative
is to try to fix it with a hammer. Has anyone got any ideas? Thanks

Wayne,

Leave the hammer alone.

Start by providing ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net

 

[Guest]

Hi Chuck ... I'm back, got a little side tracked. Here is the info you
require: The laptop is a Compaq running windows 98. Must be the original with
no subsequent updates as nothing further shows on the info screen. Following
is the config info for this machine: Windows 98 IP Configuration Host Name .
.. . . . . . . . : clint DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
4.2.2.2 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS
Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. .
.. . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes0 Ethernet adapter : Description
.. . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . :
44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . .
.. : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . .
: DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . .
: Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease
Expires . . . . . . . : 1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . :
PCMCIA Ether Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-80-C8-BC-80-37 DHCP
Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . :
169.254.193.16 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . .
.. . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server
.. . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 11 14
04 9:45:25 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
The Dell computer is running Windows XP Home Edition version 2002 SP2. The
config info is as follows: Windows 98 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . .
.. . . : clint DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
4.2.2.2 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID. . .
.. . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . :
No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes0 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . .
.. . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP
Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Subnet
Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : DHCP Server . .
.. . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS
Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : PCMCIA Ether
Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-80-C8-BC-80-37 DHCP Enabled. . . .
.. . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.193.16 Subnet Mask . . .
.. . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . .
.. . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server
.. . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 11 14 04 9:45:25 PM Lease Expires . .
.. . . . . :
I hope I've done this right. Let me know if I haven't or more info is
needed. Thanks
Wayne

 

[Chuck]

Hi Chuck ... I'm back, got a little side tracked. Here is the info you
require: The laptop is a Compaq running windows 98. Must be the original with
no subsequent updates as nothing further shows on the info screen. Following
is the config info for this machine: Windows 98 IP Configuration Host Name .
. . . . . . . . : clint DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
4.2.2.2 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS
Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. .
. . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes0 Ethernet adapter : Description
. . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . :
44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . .
. : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . .
: DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . .
: Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease
Expires . . . . . . . : 1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . :
PCMCIA Ether Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-80-C8-BC-80-37 DHCP
Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . :
169.254.193.16 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . .
. . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server
. . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 11 14
04 9:45:25 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
The Dell computer is running Windows XP Home Edition version 2002 SP2. The
config info is as follows: Windows 98 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . .
. . . : clint DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
4.2.2.2 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID. . .
. . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . :
No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes0 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . .
. . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP
Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Subnet
Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : DHCP Server . .
. . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS
Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . : PCMCIA Ether
Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-80-C8-BC-80-37 DHCP Enabled. . . .
. . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.193.16 Subnet Mask . . .
. . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . .
. . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . . : Secondary WINS Server
. . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 11 14 04 9:45:25 PM Lease Expires . .
. . . . . :
I hope I've done this right. Let me know if I haven't or more info is
needed. Thanks
Wayne

Wayne,

Try again please. IPConfig for two dofferent computers, not twice for one
computer.

And let's try formatting it a bit better, instruction changed slightly:
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is NOT checked!, Open
c:\ipconfig.txt, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net

 

[Guest]

Compaq laptop Windows 98: config info - Windows 98 IP Configuration Host Name
.. . . . . . . . . : clint DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
4.2.2.2 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS
Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. .
.. . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes0 Ethernet adapter : Description
.. . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . :
44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . .
.. : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . .
: DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . .
: Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease
Expires . . . . . . . : 1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . :
PCMCIA Ether Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-80-C8-BC-80-37 DHCP
Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . :
169.254.193.16 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . .
.. . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server
.. . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 11 14
04 9:45:25 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . :


Dell Windows XP Home config info - Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DELL

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For
Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-EA-C4-96

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.158

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::204:76ff:feea:c496%4

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.101.251.1

204.101.251.2

fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, February 17, 2005
6:43:49 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, February 24, 2005
6:43:49 AM



Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%5

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-00-9E

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.158%2

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Wayne

 

[Chuck]

Compaq laptop Windows 98: config info - Windows 98 IP Configuration Host Name
. . . . . . . . . : clint DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
4.2.2.2 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS
Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. .
. . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes0 Ethernet adapter : Description
. . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . :
44-45-53-54-00-00 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . .
. : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . .
: DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server . . . .
: Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : Lease
Expires . . . . . . . : 1 Ethernet adapter : Description . . . . . . . . :
PCMCIA Ether Adapter. Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-80-C8-BC-80-37 DHCP
Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . :
169.254.193.16 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . .
. . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Primary WINS Server
. . . . : Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 11 14
04 9:45:25 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . :


Dell Windows XP Home config info - Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DELL

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For
Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-EA-C4-96

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.158

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::204:76ff:feea:c496%4

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.101.251.1

204.101.251.2

fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, February 17, 2005
6:43:49 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, February 24, 2005
6:43:49 AM



Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%5

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-00-9E

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.158%2

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Wayne

Wayne,

Well, to start, clint is not showing any signs of being connected to the router.
It's self assigning a 169.254.x.x address.

Have you done hardware diagnostics on the PCMCIA ETher adapter on clint? Do you
see the correct lights on the adpter, and on the router, showing it connected
successfully?

Is it clint connecting with a known good cable? Try the cable / router port
used to connect Dell, and see if it changes anything. Any clues in the router
log?

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net

 

[Guest]

Chuck, I'm finally back at it! I've checked the cable (no problem there).
There is no problem with the router but the light on the port to which the
laptop is connected does not light. The laptop seems happy with the D Link
card installed in it and when the computer is booted the indicator lights
seem to indicate that communication is made up to the cable. There are three
lights on the coupler. Tx/On & Ln/RX (both light on boot up) There is a third
"Col" which does not light.

 

[Chuck]

Chuck, I'm finally back at it! I've checked the cable (no problem there).
There is no problem with the router but the light on the port to which the
laptop is connected does not light. The laptop seems happy with the D Link
card installed in it and when the computer is booted the indicator lights
seem to indicate that communication is made up to the cable. There are three
lights on the coupler. Tx/On & Ln/RX (both light on boot up) There is a third
"Col" which does not light.

Wayne,

The most obvious problem that you have to solve is ip address assignment. Clint
is setup for DHCP, and is not getting an address. This can have a few causes:
1) Physical - bad router port, bad network cable, bad network card on computer.
2) Logical - bad code on router, DHCP crippled / disabled on router, corrupt
code on computer.

Did you try switching cable / router port with Dell?

Check the router log, check DHCP settings on the router, any clues there? Does
the router have a MAC address filter (what model router)?

Could be corrupt network software on Clint. Somewhere here you might find help
for Windows 98:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318584
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811259

Give LSP-Fix <http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm> or WinsockFix
<http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=257> a shot.

If no help yet, un install and re install TCP/IP. Posting for help in
microsoft.public.win98.networking might be a good idea too.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net