SIM card USB PnP Windows device driver

N

Norm X

Hi,

A SIM card (subscriber identity module) is a small postage stamp size memory
module. Here is a Wikipedia article on the SIM card:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_Identity_Module

If you've owned a few cell phone you may have a collection of SIM cards. The
pin out configuration is similar to that on the newest bank and credit
cards.

I have a WinXP netbook PC that has a slot for a SIM card near a SIM like
icon. The slot is not very user friendly. I managed to insert a SIM into the
slot and it was recognized as a new device and a device driver was
downloaded from Microsoft Update, conventional Plug and Play. The new device
driver showed up in the USB device chain. I was planning to find application
software to read the SIM.

However, I had a system problem that required me to reinstall WinXP. The SIM
card is only recognized when it is plugged in. Since it is on the USB chain
it interferes with installation of the manufactures USB devices drivers for
the USB camera and what not.

For the life of me, I cannot recall the name of the device driver. I recall
the name was a software company name and I recall I visited their website.

A jeweler was not be equipped with a tool to extract the SIM card. I am
loath the disassemble the netbook to extract the SIM card. I once replaced a
broken LCD display screen on the netbook and that was a lot of work.

Please tell me the name of the device driver that is installed by Windows
hardware update PnP. Hopefully I can manually install the Windows USB device
driver.

Searching this problem with Google is a horrible mess. I wish my memory was
better but it's not.

Thanks.
 
U

Uwe Sieber

A SIM card slot in a laptop means that is has a GPRS or UMTS
modem. Open the Window Device Management. Under USB controllers
find you device (should have a yellow exclamation mark).
Right click -> Properties. At the Details tab you see the
device's hardware ID, something like USB\VID_12AB6&PID_34CD\123456ABC

Google for the USB\VID_12AB6&PID_34CD part and driver.

When installed you can use it as a modem. I don't know
who to read any data from the SIM card thru the modem.

For this purpose there are "smart card readers" which come
with an adaptor for SIM cards.


Uwe
 
N

Norm X

I am reverting to bottom post because it helps comprehension.

Uwe Sieber said:
A SIM card slot in a laptop means that is has a GPRS or UMTS
modem. Open the Window Device Management. Under USB controllers
find you device (should have a yellow exclamation mark).
Right click -> Properties. At the Details tab you see the
device's hardware ID, something like USB\VID_12AB6&PID_34CD\123456ABC

Google for the USB\VID_12AB6&PID_34CD part and driver.

When installed you can use it as a modem. I don't know
who to read any data from the SIM card thru the modem.

For this purpose there are "smart card readers" which come
with an adaptor for SIM cards.


Uwe

Thanks Uwe but my PC does not have a GPRS or UMTS modem, because it is not
installed.

The SIM card USB PnP Windows device driver does not appear in the USB device
chain because the installation has become corrupted. Please review what I
said above.

"Device Manager" shows it with a yellow question mark, "Other devices" and
three instances of "Base system device" each with a yellow question mark.
When I try to use "update driver" Windows update cannot determine what is
the device. It is a Plug and Play device, that announces identity at the
time it is plugged in. It is often said that to make a device work "try
plugging it in again". In my case I cannot remove the device. As I said
above, I took it to a jeweler who lacks a tool fine enough to extract the
SIM card from its slot.

I was hoping that someone has hardware like mine and could answer my
question.

You suggested I Google for:

USB\VID_12AB6&PID_34CD

I did that and all I got was a link back into this forum.

If you happen to have a SIM card installed, please identify the SIM card in
the USB driver train in "Device Manager". Right click for properties and
then select the "Driver" tab and then "Driver Details". You should be able
to tell me the SIM card USB PnP Windows device driver, if you have it
installed on your machine.

Thanks.
 
U

Uwe Sieber

USB\VID_12AB6&PID_34CD

USB vendor and product IDs are four digits each,
so something is wrong with this device ID.

I've never seen anything else than GPRS/UMTS modems
when a laptop has a sim card slot, so I cannot help
here.

Uwe
 
M

Motor T

Thanks Uwe but my PC does not have a GPRS or UMTS modem, because it is not
installed.

The SIM card USB PnP Windows device driver does not appear in the USB device
chain because the installation has become corrupted. Please review what I
said above.

"Device Manager" shows it with a yellow question mark, "Other devices" and
three instances of "Base system device" each with a yellow question mark.
When I try to use "update driver" Windows update cannot determine what is
the device. It is a Plug and Play device, that announces identity at the
time it is plugged in. It is often said that to make a device work "try
plugging it in again". In my case I cannot remove the device. As I said
above, I took it to a jeweler who lacks a tool fine enough to extract the
SIM card from its slot.

I was hoping that someone has hardware like mine and could answer my
question.

Have you tried alt.comp.hardware/alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt groups?
 
P

Paul

Norm said:
I am reverting to bottom post because it helps comprehension.



Thanks Uwe but my PC does not have a GPRS or UMTS modem, because it is not
installed.

The SIM card USB PnP Windows device driver does not appear in the USB device
chain because the installation has become corrupted. Please review what I
said above.

"Device Manager" shows it with a yellow question mark, "Other devices" and
three instances of "Base system device" each with a yellow question mark.
When I try to use "update driver" Windows update cannot determine what is
the device. It is a Plug and Play device, that announces identity at the
time it is plugged in. It is often said that to make a device work "try
plugging it in again". In my case I cannot remove the device. As I said
above, I took it to a jeweler who lacks a tool fine enough to extract the
SIM card from its slot.

I was hoping that someone has hardware like mine and could answer my
question.

You suggested I Google for:

USB\VID_12AB6&PID_34CD

I did that and all I got was a link back into this forum.

If you happen to have a SIM card installed, please identify the SIM card in
the USB driver train in "Device Manager". Right click for properties and
then select the "Driver" tab and then "Driver Details". You should be able
to tell me the SIM card USB PnP Windows device driver, if you have it
installed on your machine.

Thanks.

I think Uwe was using that as an example. That wouldn't be your device ID.

You can look for Device ID values here, VID (vendor ID) and PID (product ID).
This is an informally collected list - the real USB registry is not public
as far as I'm aware, to protect manufacturer new product introductions.

http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids

You can use a copy of UVCView from Microsoft, to enumerate USB devices
connected directly to the computer. As far as I know, this won't enumerate
an external "tree" of USB hubs and peripherals. To use this, the target device
should be connected to a chipset USB port on the motherboard for best results.

The following is a recipe to get the latest version of UVCView. For the sake
of a better name, I call this UVCView2.

*******

This is one way to get UVCView. From "Joe Morris"...

UVCView is shipped with the Windows Driver Kit.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff554257(v=VS.85).aspx?ppud=4

The download you end up with is:

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=11800

GRMWDK_EN_7600_1.ISO 649,877,504 bytes

The purpose of using 7ZIP, is to extract the utility, without installing
the entire CD of materials.

Using 7ZIP, navigate to "WDK" and find

avstreamtools_x86fre_cab001.cab

Click on the cab, do an "Open Inside", then select

_UVCview.exe_00006

then extract. Then rename the extracted file to

UVCView2.exe 133,632 bytes MD5SUM=213f6e89cc4ab4e7e9e3e2ad394b83cb

Using that method, avoids having to install a lot of cruft
you don't need. You still have to figure out, how to read the
config data on the right hand pane, which isn't exactly easy.

This is a picture of what the UVCView info looks *similar* to.

http://www.die.de/blog/content/binary/usbview.png

Some information on the parameters seen in UVCView.

http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb5.htm

For example, my mouse right now is a USB device. I see

idVendor: 0x046D = Logitech Inc.
idProduct: 0xC01A

in the right hand pane, when examining the mouse with UVCView2.
Using the usb.ids file from the first link confirms...

046d Logitech, Inc.
c01a M-BQ85 Optical Wheel Mouse

Using VID_046d and PID_c01a , I could go "looking for a driver".

*******

HTH,
Paul
 
N

Norm X

Motor T said:
Have you tried alt.comp.hardware/alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt groups?

Thanks.

They may know the name of the device driver.

If all else fails, I'll get a magnifying glass, good lamp and a pin. Maybe I
can pry the SIM card out of the slot and then plug it back in. It is "Plug
and Play".
 

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