Secondary IDE has a problem

M

marsha

I thought the cd-rom was dead and ordered a new one.
But this one acted dead. oh oh. I checked by putting it
in a different computer. It isn't dead. I replaced the ribbon
cable and checked the jumpers. That isn't the problem.

I had just finished reformatting and doing a clean install of
XP home on this computer.

What could cause one half of the secondary IDE to fail???

Thanks
 
C

Conor

I thought the cd-rom was dead and ordered a new one.
But this one acted dead. oh oh. I checked by putting it
in a different computer. It isn't dead. I replaced the ribbon
cable and checked the jumpers. That isn't the problem.

I had just finished reformatting and doing a clean install of
XP home on this computer.

What could cause one half of the secondary IDE to fail???
Using a Cable select IDE ribbon cable ona drive with Master or Slave
set.

Blue goes to motherboard socket, black goes to Master, grey goes to
Slave. I have seen it before where you jumper a drive as master and
connect it to the grey connector and it doesn't work.
 
M

marsha

Using a Cable select IDE ribbon cable ona drive with Master or Slave
set.

Blue goes to motherboard socket, black goes to Master, grey goes to
Slave. I have seen it before where you jumper a drive as master and
connect it to the grey connector and it doesn't work.

The original ribbon was blue and I had that end in the mobo. I replaced
with
a ribbon that had black on all ends and I put the correct end in the mobo.
The other end has two connectors on it and so it too is easy to determine
which
end goes where.

I tried jumpers in cable select on both drives and that didn't work either.
I then
tried setting master and slave. The really strange thing (maybe a clue) is
that it
will play audio but not data.
 
F

fj

marsha said:
The original ribbon was blue and I had that end in the mobo. I replaced
with
a ribbon that had black on all ends and I put the correct end in the mobo.
The other end has two connectors on it and so it too is easy to determine
which
end goes where.

I tried jumpers in cable select on both drives and that didn't work
either.
I then
tried setting master and slave. The really strange thing (maybe a clue)
is
that it
will play audio but not data.
You don't have anything on the secondary IDE channel other than the cd
drive?
What IDE drivers do you have installed? Does the cd drive have any yellow
or red marks in Device Manager.
In what way will it not work with 'data'?
 
J

johns

There was a period of time ( about 3 to 5 years ago )
when we went through an incompatible cd-rom BIOS
incompatiblility with WinXP. For example, the Plextor
cdrw drives simply would not run under XP. Took them
a while to bring out compatible drivers and programs
.... about a year. Also, standard cd-roms were very
slow to upgrade their BIOSes, and most of them
went to surplus as we came out of the Win98 era.
I did reburn a bunch of them, and they worked, but
not well. You may have one of those drives.

johns
 
M

marsha

What IDE drivers do you have installed?

I'm sorry, I have that computer at another
location and I will have to check.
Does the cd drive have any yellow
or red marks in Device Manager.

I didn't think so but now I will have to go look again. Probably tomorrow.
In what way will it not work with 'data'?

It would not open a data cd. It was like it couldn't see it. And it would
hang when I tried
to open a data cd so that I had to restart to get out of it.

Thanks so much for your concern and help!!!
 
M

marsha

That was a brand new lite-on and I also tested a generic cd-rom reader
which acted the same way.
 
S

sdlomi2

marsha said:
The original ribbon was blue and I had that end in the mobo. I replaced
with
a ribbon that had black on all ends and I put the correct end in the mobo.
The other end has two connectors on it and so it too is easy to determine
which
end goes where.

I tried jumpers in cable select on both drives and that didn't work
either.
I then
tried setting master and slave. The really strange thing (maybe a clue)
is
that it
will play audio but not data.
Try a cd-rom which as its own burning software with it. HTH, s
 
M

marsha

After trying every jumper CS vs master/slave connection and 3
different ribbon cables, IDE Secondary just died so it must be
a bad trace on the mobo.
 

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