searchenigine and frames

[Guest]

The basis of my website is a table with frame. The content is renewed in the
frame. Currently the website is indexed by searchengines. As a result a
certain content page is found in google and when you follow that searchresult
it shows the contentpage without everything else (navigation etc.). Is it
possible to enclude something in the contentpages that ensures that
everything is shown when found in a searchengine? Not only the contentpage
but also the framepage in which it should be shown.

 

[Jon Spivey]

Hi,

I'd suggest you lose the frames completely, apart from the problem you've
described a framed site will never rank as well as a non-framed site. Might
seem like a lot of work but it will be well worth it.

 

[Guest]

Hi Jon,

I understand your reply but that would be quite an undertaking because it
has about 50 pages. Therefor a new question.
Is it possible to combine the basic lay-out/table/frame + navigation (java)
into a .css that builds up the content around the specific content? And if
yes where can I find an example?

 

[Ronx]

Not CSS.
If you are using FP2003 then a Dynamic Web Template can be used to do
this.
Otherwise, use include files to add the navigation etc. from the
frameset pages to the content pages.

 

[Guest]

Is the dynamic web template on a unix -site possible?

 

[Ronx]

A DWT is basically a save-time component, the same as shared borders.
They are easiest to work with in a disc-based web, or on a WSS site,
editing on a server-based extended web site takes a little more effort
to apply the DWTs to pages.
The server type is not relevant (except WSS is Windows 2003 only). No
problems on Unix.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Agree to drop the frame and use a DWT
But short term add the following to your pages to redirect user to your main frameset page
<script language="JavaScript" >
// Stay in frames
if (parent.location.href == self.location.href) {
alert("This Site Content must be viewed in Our Frames");
window.location.href = location.host + '/Path/yourframesetpage.htm';
} else {
// OK in frames
}
</script>
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| Is the dynamic web template on a unix -site possible?
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > Not CSS.
| > If you are using FP2003 then a Dynamic Web Template can be used to do
| > this.
| > Otherwise, use include files to add the navigation etc. from the
| > frameset pages to the content pages.
| >
| > --
| > Ron Symonds
| > Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| >
| > | > > Hi Jon,
| > >
| > > I understand your reply but that would be quite an undertaking
| > > because it
| > > has about 50 pages. Therefor a new question.
| > > Is it possible to combine the basic lay-out/table/frame + navigation
| > > (java)
| > > into a .css that builds up the content around the specific content?
| > > And if
| > > yes where can I find an example?
| > >
| > > "Jon Spivey" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Hi,
| > >>
| > >> I'd suggest you lose the frames completely, apart from the problem
| > >> you've
| > >> described a framed site will never rank as well as a non-framed
| > >> site. Might
| > >> seem like a lot of work but it will be well worth it.
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> Cheers,
| > >> Jon
| > >> Microsoft MVP
| > >>
| > >> | > >> > The basis of my website is a table with frame. The content is
| > >> > renewed in
| > >> > the
| > >> > frame. Currently the website is indexed by searchengines. As a
| > >> > result a
| > >> > certain content page is found in google and when you follow that
| > >> > searchresult
| > >> > it shows the contentpage without everything else (navigation
| > >> > etc.). Is it
| > >> > possible to enclude something in the contentpages that ensures
| > >> > that
| > >> > everything is shown when found in a searchengine? Not only the
| > >> > contentpage
| > >> > but also the framepage in which it should be shown.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >
| >

 

[Cheryl D Wise]

Yes, DWTs do their work inside your local copy of FrontPage. The pages
themselves are nothing but HTML with some comment tags in them.

FWIW, once you have the DWT created all you will need to do is open each of
your framed pages and apply the template. Synchronize you site or upload and
you'll be good to go. 50 pages isn't really that large.