Search and Fonts

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Rainy

this time when I click on search it is showing me fonts that are
corrupted... and they are duplicates... when I go to the folder the fonts
are fine... is this a bad search engine.. I am using xp search... Any help
appreciated... thanks Rainy
 
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Wesley Vogel

How does Search indicate that these fonts are corrupted?

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Rainy

the display... they are gray... when I tried to open folder, it said can't
read from file... I think it's what it said.. Rainy
How does Search indicate that these fonts are corrupted?

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Wesley Vogel

Rainy,

What folder?

C:\WINDOWS\Fonts?

And what fonts?

How To Install or Remove a Font in Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314960

This one is important >>>>
Do not delete the following fonts:
Arial (TrueType)
Arial Bold (TrueType)
Arial Bold Italic (TrueType)
Arial Italic (TrueType)
Courier 10,12,15 (VGA res)
Courier New (TrueType)
Courier New Bold (TrueType)
Courier New Bold Italic (TrueType)
Courier New Italic (TrueType)
Marlett (Windows 95/98) *
Modern (Plotter)
MS Sans Serif 8,10,12,14,18,24 (VGA res)
MS Serif 8,10,12,14,18,24 (VGA res)
Roman (Plotter)
Script (Plotter)
Small fonts (VGA res)
Symbol (TrueType)
Symbol 8,10,12,14,18,24 (VGA res)
Times New Roman (TrueType) -
Times New Roman Bold (TrueType)
Times New Roman Bold Italic (TrueType)
Times New Roman Italic (TrueType)
Wingdings (TrueType)
Any font with a red A for its icon.
Any font that begins with the letters MS.

*Marlett is a hidden system file and it will not show up in a search,
however, it may show up in your program font lists.
Windows Fonts That Should Not Be Deleted
http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/aboutgraphics/a/fontoverload_3.htm

Fonts Supplied with Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/winxp.htm?fname= &fsize

Fonts supplied with Windows XP SP2
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/product.aspx?PID=145

Fonts supplied with some Microsoft products
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/default.aspx


Could your fonts be corrupted? Go to the C:\Windows\fonts folder and view
details. Sort the view by file size and check for any fonts with a zero byte
size.
from...
Overcoming Font Overload in Windows
http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/aboutgraphics/a/fontoverload_2.htm

Here's a little more info...

To find and delete a corrupted font file, follow these steps:
1. Note the approximate font that causes Windows to stop responding; the
fonts are listed alphabetically.
2. Click Start, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel.
3. Click the Fonts icon.
4. Click Details on the Fonts dialog box.
5. Look for a font with an abnormally large size in the vicinity of the font
that you suspect is corrupted.
6. Double-click the suspected font name

If a font sample does not appear, if Windows stops responding, or if
nonsensical data is displayed, you have found the corrupted font.
7. Repeat steps 6 and 7 until you find the corrupted font.
8. Right-click the font name.
9. Click Delete on the shortcut menu.
from...
Windows Stops Responding When You Change Fonts
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/265206

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Wesley Vogel

Rainy, your screen shot does not show the folder name or path and one font
name was cut off. You're a vicious editor. ;-) You also have three files
of 2Peas 4th of July.

On this picture...
http://www.unleash.com/articles/fonts/lastwordfonts01.gif

The icon to the left of the red (1) is a TrueType font, but also a shortcut
to the real file, it has an arrow showing that it's a shortcut.
The icon to the left of the red (2) is an OpenType font.
The icon to the left of the red (3) is a PostScript font.
The icon to the left of the red (4) is a screen font.

I would delete all of these:
2PeasRibbons.ttf
2Peas 4th of July (2).ttf
2Peas 4th of July (3).ttf
2Peas 4th of July.ttf
2Peas A Beautiful????
2Peas A Little Loopy.ttf
2Peas Airplanes.ttf


TrueType fonts
Fonts that are scalable and sometimes generated as bitmaps or soft fonts,
depending on the capabilities of your printer. TrueType fonts are
device-independent fonts that are stored as outlines. They can be sized to
any height, and they can be printed exactly as they appear on the screen.

OpenType fonts
Outline fonts that are rendered from line and curve commands, and can be
scaled and rotated. OpenType fonts are clear and readable in all sizes and
on all output devices supported by Windows. OpenType is an extension of
TrueType font technology.

PostScript fonts
Fonts that are defined in terms of the PostScript page-description language
(PDL) rules and are intended to be printed on a PostScript-compatible
printer. When a document displayed in a screen font is sent to a PostScript
printer, the printer uses the PostScript version if the font exists. If the
font doesn't exist but a version is installed on the computer, that font is
downloaded to the printer. If there is no PostScript font installed in
either the printer or the computer, the bit-mapped (raster) font is
translated into PostScript and the printer produces text using the
bit-mapped font. PostScript fonts are distinguished from bit-mapped fonts by
their smoothness, detail, and faithfulness to standards of quality
established in the typographic industry.

screen fonts
A typeface designed for display on a computer monitor screen. Screen fonts
often have accompanying PostScript fonts for printing to
PostScript-compatible printers.

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R

Rainy

Hi Wes... yes I guess I am.. :) but was trying to show that the color
(display) of the font was different... I have deleted the fonts you
suggested I delete and went through my folders and deleted all (2) and(3)
Strange to me, that if I plopped a font in the non windows font folder..
that it wouldn't overwrite the one that was there, and not create a new one
with a name change... :( I had my work cut out for me... if I am going to
properly install the font to the windows/font folder, which is unlikely
since I can use the font by opening it and minimizing it to the taskbar.. no
point in overloading the font folder... I'm saving all this information
since it's so thorough and will probably never have to ask a font question
again. :).many thanks! ... Rainy

Rainy, your screen shot does not show the folder name or path and one font
name was cut off. You're a vicious editor. ;-) You also have three files
of 2Peas 4th of July.

On this picture...
http://www.unleash.com/articles/fonts/lastwordfonts01.gif

The icon to the left of the red (1) is a TrueType font, but also a shortcut
to the real file, it has an arrow showing that it's a shortcut.
The icon to the left of the red (2) is an OpenType font.
The icon to the left of the red (3) is a PostScript font.
The icon to the left of the red (4) is a screen font.

I would delete all of these:
2PeasRibbons.ttf
2Peas 4th of July (2).ttf
2Peas 4th of July (3).ttf
2Peas 4th of July.ttf
2Peas A Beautiful????
2Peas A Little Loopy.ttf
2Peas Airplanes.ttf


TrueType fonts
Fonts that are scalable and sometimes generated as bitmaps or soft fonts,
depending on the capabilities of your printer. TrueType fonts are
device-independent fonts that are stored as outlines. They can be sized to
any height, and they can be printed exactly as they appear on the screen.

OpenType fonts
Outline fonts that are rendered from line and curve commands, and can be
scaled and rotated. OpenType fonts are clear and readable in all sizes and
on all output devices supported by Windows. OpenType is an extension of
TrueType font technology.

PostScript fonts
Fonts that are defined in terms of the PostScript page-description language
(PDL) rules and are intended to be printed on a PostScript-compatible
printer. When a document displayed in a screen font is sent to a PostScript
printer, the printer uses the PostScript version if the font exists. If the
font doesn't exist but a version is installed on the computer, that font is
downloaded to the printer. If there is no PostScript font installed in
either the printer or the computer, the bit-mapped (raster) font is
translated into PostScript and the printer produces text using the
bit-mapped font. PostScript fonts are distinguished from bit-mapped fonts by
their smoothness, detail, and faithfulness to standards of quality
established in the typographic industry.

screen fonts
A typeface designed for display on a computer monitor screen. Screen fonts
often have accompanying PostScript fonts for printing to
PostScript-compatible printers.

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Sharon F

is this the way they
are supposed to look?

I don't know if this is what you're running into but thought I'd toss it
out there anyhow...

Font creation is a quite a science. I say that because I've checked the
prices for some of them. There must be a lot of work involved to justify
those price tags. Anyhow, some of the fonts that are circulated within some
graphics groups are not bona fide fonts. They are images that have been
captured into a font file format.

Font tools/organizers: Some will show any font file just fine. Others will
out the ones that are not kosher but the files/characters will still render
within your graphics programs. Still others will refuse to work at all with
the less than pristine font creations.

Not sure how this helps you. At the very most, it's food for thought as
you're sorting through fonts.
 
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Rainy

no I hadn't run into this... all the fonts I have... work ok.. it was just
this latest problem that had me thinking, you are right, it's food for
thought... but then if they work... and do what I want them to do.. I guess
don't care, and no I don't think much justifys some of the prices.. I go to
abstract fonts and others to find free fonts, and see the ones they are
selling, One at $40 or much more... I think to myself, "on a good day I
wouldn't pay that much for one font!" :) I suppose if I owned a business
and was making a profit using the expensive font, I might... maybe ... :)
food for thought is right.. :) thanks Sharon.. Rainy
is this the way they
are supposed to look?

I don't know if this is what you're running into but thought I'd toss it
out there anyhow...

Font creation is a quite a science. I say that because I've checked the
prices for some of them. There must be a lot of work involved to justify
those price tags. Anyhow, some of the fonts that are circulated within some
graphics groups are not bona fide fonts. They are images that have been
captured into a font file format.

Font tools/organizers: Some will show any font file just fine. Others will
out the ones that are not kosher but the files/characters will still render
within your graphics programs. Still others will refuse to work at all with
the less than pristine font creations.

Not sure how this helps you. At the very most, it's food for thought as
you're sorting through fonts.
 
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Wesley Vogel

Sometimes when you select more than one file and move you mouse just a
little without realizing it, Windows interprets this as dragging which
copies the files.

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