SCSI drive almost recognized. Need expert advice.

[Dave Patrick]

What does Disk Management have to say about it?

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:
| I have an all SCSI Win2000 mainbox. SP 4. By "all SCSI, I mean that all of
| the harddrives (six of them) and a CD-Rom and tape drive (Adaptec 2940UW).
| Bowing to realities, a DVD dual format drive will be added in the near
| future that will have to be ATA/IDE.
|
| The problem is that only five of the six SCSI hard drives are recognized
and
| I cannot figure out why the six one is not. The Device Manager recognizes
| the 6th drive and reports that it is working properly but it does not show
| up in My Computer as a selectable drive.
|
| The configuration is:
| SCSI ID drive
| 0 Boot hard disk
| 1 Plextor CD-ROM
| 2 hard drive
| 3 tape drive
| 4 hard drive
| 5 hard drive <=not completely recognized
| 8 hard drive
| 9 hard drive
|
| During SCSI bootup, the Adaptec reports these drives with these IDs in
this
| order.
|
| The ribbon cable (a new one specially made with about 2 inches between
| connectors) starts with SCSI ID 9 and proceeds this way:
|
| 9, 8, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0, 5
|
| I have checked and rechecked the SCSI jumpers. The last drive -- the one
| that doesn't boot completely -- has the SCSI termination ON. SCSI
| termination is OFF on all other devices.
|
| All of the hard drives are IBM Deskstars, models 39130 or 34560 (i.e., 9ES
| or 4ES).
|
| When I first added drive 5 to this setup I made a mistake and forgot to
| remove the termination from drive 0. I removed it but this made no
| difference. Was this mistake somehow memorized by the SCSI adapter? Do I
| need to clear it somehow and start over?
|
| John Wirt
| When I first
|
|
|
|

 

[John Wirt]

I have an all SCSI Win2000 mainbox. SP 4. By "all SCSI, I mean that all of
the harddrives (six of them) and a CD-Rom and tape drive (Adaptec 2940UW).
Bowing to realities, a DVD dual format drive will be added in the near
future that will have to be ATA/IDE.

The problem is that only five of the six SCSI hard drives are recognized and
I cannot figure out why the six one is not. The Device Manager recognizes
the 6th drive and reports that it is working properly but it does not show
up in My Computer as a selectable drive.

The configuration is:
SCSI ID drive
0 Boot hard disk
1 Plextor CD-ROM
2 hard drive
3 tape drive
4 hard drive
5 hard drive <=not completely recognized
8 hard drive
9 hard drive

During SCSI bootup, the Adaptec reports these drives with these IDs in this
order.

The ribbon cable (a new one specially made with about 2 inches between
connectors) starts with SCSI ID 9 and proceeds this way:

9, 8, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0, 5

I have checked and rechecked the SCSI jumpers. The last drive -- the one
that doesn't boot completely -- has the SCSI termination ON. SCSI
termination is OFF on all other devices.

All of the hard drives are IBM Deskstars, models 39130 or 34560 (i.e., 9ES
or 4ES).

When I first added drive 5 to this setup I made a mistake and forgot to
remove the termination from drive 0. I removed it but this made no
difference. Was this mistake somehow memorized by the SCSI adapter? Do I
need to clear it somehow and start over?

John Wirt
When I first

 

[John Wirt]

Some more information is that the drive 5 (the new one that is not
recognized) is unformatted and is not recognized by Partition Magic 7.0. It
is recognized by the SCSI adaptor on boot up, and as I say, by the Win2K
device manager. The drive is not accessible from the command line.

The installation of Win2K is new. I just reinstalled Win2K this week. So
"corruption" is not liekly to be the problem.

I have no independent way of verifying that the drive is physcially good
except I could install it on another machine on the same network that has
SCSI components.

John Wirt

 

[Jetro]

I would check HDD manufacturer site; They should have test/management
utilities.

 

[Guest]

What is "Disk Management?" I didn't see a Win2K utility
like that this morning but I thought there was such (from
my memory). I'll look again. It's a "System Tool?"

JOhn

 

[John Wirt]

OK, I'll try. john

 

[Dave Patrick]

From the "Run" box
diskmgmt.msc

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect.

| What is "Disk Management?" I didn't see a Win2K utility
| like that this morning but I thought there was such (from
| my memory). I'll look again. It's a "System Tool?"
|
| JOhn

 

[Dave Patrick]

These may help you.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=175761
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=254105

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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:
| Holy Toledo. This is astounding.
|
| Yes, I started diskmgmt.msc and it worked. Apparently this "program"
allows
| one to create dynamic "volumes."
|
| I have several questions. One can apparently choose to create different
| kinds of volumes. I chose to create a "simple volume." The display showed
| that one could also create an extended partition, a primary partition, and
| so on. I am familiar with primary and extended partitiions, but what is a
| "simple volume?" There awas another kind of volume I didn't recognize
| either.
|
| But basically, what is a dynamic volume? What is going on here? Where can
I
| find out about this? WIN2K help?
|
| Now, I've found I can "format" this simple volume. I've decided to format
it
| in NTFS. (I think).
|
| However, the basic issue is what are these dynamic volumes?
|
| Thanks.
|
| Win2k MVP, otherwise known as a magician.
|
| John Wirt.

 

[Dave Patrick]

I'm guessing the drive needed to be partitioned first.

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| And why could I not format this new SCSI drive in the usual manner. Win2K
| recongized the new drive but not really. What is going on here?
|
| John
|
|

 

[John Wirt]

Holy Toledo. This is astounding.

Yes, I started diskmgmt.msc and it worked. Apparently this "program" allows
one to create dynamic "volumes."

I have several questions. One can apparently choose to create different
kinds of volumes. I chose to create a "simple volume." The display showed
that one could also create an extended partition, a primary partition, and
so on. I am familiar with primary and extended partitiions, but what is a
"simple volume?" There awas another kind of volume I didn't recognize
either.

But basically, what is a dynamic volume? What is going on here? Where can I
find out about this? WIN2K help?

Now, I've found I can "format" this simple volume. I've decided to format it
in NTFS. (I think).

However, the basic issue is what are these dynamic volumes?

Thanks.

Win2k MVP, otherwise known as a magician.

John Wirt.

 

[John Wirt]

And why could I not format this new SCSI drive in the usual manner. Win2K
recongized the new drive but not really. What is going on here?

John

 

[John Wirt]

I tried to partition the drive with Partition Magic but PM could not see the
drive.

John

 

[Dave Patrick]

Now that is odd.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect.

:
| I tried to partition the drive with Partition Magic but PM could not see
the
| drive.
|
| John

 

[\(JD\)]

Right click My Computer | Manage. It's under Storage | Disk Management.