RID problems lead to other problems

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Mark Stinson

Greetings:

I administer a Win2K domain for a local high school. We are a single domain
within a single forest, running off of a single domain controller. The DC is
Win2K Server with SP4. There was a second domain controller about a year
ago, but the hardware was needed for something else, so it was DCPROMO'd and
reformatted with 2K Pro. All role masters stayed with the initial DC.

While adding user accounts and new workstations to the domain, I received an
error message saying that the pool of relative identifiers had been
exhausted. In checking the logs, I found two items: 16645 telling me that
the pool had been exhausted, and 16647 telling me that the server was
requesting more identifiers from the RID master. Including deleted users
accounts, there are about 500 objects in the domain, which would represent
the original pool of identifiers. Rebooting the server (both warm and cold)
did nothing. Following the reboots, the AD U&C snap-in no longer connected
to the domain and it could not find the global catalog. I could force it to
connect to the domain controller, but not to the domain. I keep receiving
the message that the domain cannot be found. I have stopped, started and
restarted DNS, but this did not resolve the problem. The snap-in shows that
the DC knows who the role masters are and I have manually seized the roles
using NTDSUTIL just to be sure. This also did not resolve the problem.
Finally, because there are relatively few AD objects, I decided that
removing AD and reinstalling with DCPROMO might be appropriate. Because it
cannot find the domain, it cannot validate my permissions and will not allow
me to remove AD.

I have run DCDIAG and NETDIAG. The results of the DCDIAG are below. All
NETDIAG tests showed "passed," with the exception of the WAN links, which
was skipped because we have none.

I am almost to the point of reformatting, reinstalling and recreating the
domain, but am hoping that there is a better way of handling it. Thanks for
any help you can give.

Mark Stinson
Horizon City, Texas

DCDIAG RESULTS
Performing initial setup:

Done gathering initial info.

Doing initial non skippeable tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\HHSPROXY

Starting test: Connectivity

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test Connectiv

Doing primary tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\HHSPROXY

Starting test: Replications

[Replications Check,HHSPROXY] A recent replication attem

From BCISLAB-INSTR to HHSPROXY

Naming Context: CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=HHS,DC=

The replication generated an error (8524):

The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a D

re.

The failure occurred at 2003-08-16 08:50.20.

The last success occurred at 2002-12-13 08:49.33.

5543 failures have occurred since the last success.

The guid-based DNS name d0317994-d94a-4e61-b3ec-6b5dd

HHS.CISD

is not registered on one or more DNS servers.

[BCISLAB-INSTR] DsBind() failed with error 1722,

The RPC server is unavailable..

[Replications Check,HHSPROXY] A recent replication attem

From BCISLAB-INSTR to HHSPROXY

Naming Context: CN=Configuration,DC=HHS,DC=CISD

The replication generated an error (8524):

The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a D

re.

The failure occurred at 2003-08-16 08:50.20.

The last success occurred at 2002-12-13 09:04.54.

5587 failures have occurred since the last success.

The guid-based DNS name d0317994-d94a-4e61-b3ec-6b5dd

HHS.CISD

is not registered on one or more DNS servers.

[Replications Check,HHSPROXY] A recent replication attem

From BCISLAB-INSTR to HHSPROXY

Naming Context: DC=HHS,DC=CISD

The replication generated an error (8524):

The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a D

re.

The failure occurred at 2003-08-16 08:50.20.

The last success occurred at 2002-12-13 09:12.38.

5615 failures have occurred since the last success.

The guid-based DNS name d0317994-d94a-4e61-b3ec-6b5dd

HHS.CISD

is not registered on one or more DNS servers.

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test Replicati

Starting test: NCSecDesc

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test NCSecDesc

Starting test: NetLogons

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test NetLogons

Starting test: Advertising

Fatal Error:DsGetDcName (HHSPROXY) call failed, error 13

The Locator could not find the server.

.......................... HHSPROXY failed test Advertisi

Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test KnowsOfRo

Starting test: RidManager

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test RidManage

Starting test: MachineAccount

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test MachineAc

Starting test: Services

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test Services

Starting test: ObjectsReplicated

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test ObjectsRe

Starting test: frssysvol

There are errors after the SYSVOL has been shared.

The SYSVOL can prevent the AD from starting.

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test frssysvol

Starting test: kccevent

.......................... HHSPROXY passed test kccevent

Starting test: systemlog

An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004105

Time Generated: 08/16/2003 08:58:38

(Event String could not be retrieved)

.......................... HHSPROXY failed test systemlog

Running enterprise tests on : HHS.CISD

Starting test: Intersite

.......................... HHS.CISD passed test Intersite

Starting test: FsmoCheck

Warning: DcGetDcName(GC_SERVER_REQUIRED) call failed, er

A Global Catalog Server could not be located - All GC's

Warning: DcGetDcName(PDC_REQUIRED) call failed, error 13

A Primary Domain Controller could not be located.

The server holding the PDC role is down.

Warning: DcGetDcName(TIME_SERVER) call failed, error 135

A Time Server could not be located.

The server holding the PDC role is down.

Warning: DcGetDcName(KDC_REQUIRED) call failed, error 13

A KDC could not be located - All the KDCs are down.

.......................... HHS.CISD failed test FsmoCheck
 
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Dave Shaw [MVP]

It sounds as though your other DC became the RID Master somehow, and didn't
transfer the role during it's DC Promo. Are you working from the console of
the DC when doing these operations?

Are you certain this DC is the RID master?

Are you sure that there absolutely is no DNS trouble? (Check all revolvers
to ensure they are pointing to the DC - including the DC's.

-ds


Mark Stinson said:
Greetings:

I administer a Win2K domain for a local high school. We are a single domain
within a single forest, running off of a single domain controller. The DC is
Win2K Server with SP4. There was a second domain controller about a year
ago, but the hardware was needed for something else, so it was DCPROMO'd and
reformatted with 2K Pro. All role masters stayed with the initial DC.

While adding user accounts and new workstations to the domain, I received an
error message saying that the pool of relative identifiers had been
exhausted. In checking the logs, I found two items: 16645 telling me that
the pool had been exhausted, and 16647 telling me that the server was
requesting more identifiers from the RID master. Including deleted users
accounts, there are about 500 objects in the domain, which would represent
the original pool of identifiers. Rebooting the server (both warm and cold)
did nothing. Following the reboots, the AD U&C snap-in no longer connected
to the domain and it could not find the global catalog. I could force it to
connect to the domain controller, but not to the domain. I keep receiving
the message that the domain cannot be found. I have stopped, started and
restarted DNS, but this did not resolve the problem. The snap-in shows that
the DC knows who the role masters are and I have manually seized the roles
using NTDSUTIL just to be sure. This also did not resolve the problem.
Finally, because there are relatively few AD objects, I decided that
removing AD and reinstalling with DCPROMO might be appropriate. Because it
cannot find the domain, it cannot validate my permissions and will not allow
me to remove AD.

I have run DCDIAG and NETDIAG. The results of the DCDIAG are below. All
NETDIAG tests showed "passed," with the exception of the WAN links, which
was skipped because we have none.

I am almost to the point of reformatting, reinstalling and recreating the
domain, but am hoping that there is a better way of handling it. Thanks for
any help you can give.

Mark Stinson
Horizon City, Texas

DCDIAG RESULTS
Performing initial setup:

Done gathering initial info.

Doing initial non skippeable tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\HHSPROXY

Starting test: Connectivity

......................... HHSPROXY passed test Connectiv

Doing primary tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\HHSPROXY

Starting test: Replications

[Replications Check,HHSPROXY] A recent replication attem

From BCISLAB-INSTR to HHSPROXY

Naming Context: CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=HHS,DC=

The replication generated an error (8524):

The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a D

re.

The failure occurred at 2003-08-16 08:50.20.

The last success occurred at 2002-12-13 08:49.33.

5543 failures have occurred since the last success.

The guid-based DNS name d0317994-d94a-4e61-b3ec-6b5dd

HHS.CISD

is not registered on one or more DNS servers.

[BCISLAB-INSTR] DsBind() failed with error 1722,

The RPC server is unavailable..

[Replications Check,HHSPROXY] A recent replication attem

From BCISLAB-INSTR to HHSPROXY

Naming Context: CN=Configuration,DC=HHS,DC=CISD

The replication generated an error (8524):

The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a D

re.

The failure occurred at 2003-08-16 08:50.20.

The last success occurred at 2002-12-13 09:04.54.

5587 failures have occurred since the last success.

The guid-based DNS name d0317994-d94a-4e61-b3ec-6b5dd

HHS.CISD

is not registered on one or more DNS servers.

[Replications Check,HHSPROXY] A recent replication attem

From BCISLAB-INSTR to HHSPROXY

Naming Context: DC=HHS,DC=CISD

The replication generated an error (8524):

The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a D

re.

The failure occurred at 2003-08-16 08:50.20.

The last success occurred at 2002-12-13 09:12.38.

5615 failures have occurred since the last success.

The guid-based DNS name d0317994-d94a-4e61-b3ec-6b5dd

HHS.CISD

is not registered on one or more DNS servers.

......................... HHSPROXY passed test Replicati

Starting test: NCSecDesc

......................... HHSPROXY passed test NCSecDesc

Starting test: NetLogons

......................... HHSPROXY passed test NetLogons

Starting test: Advertising

Fatal Error:DsGetDcName (HHSPROXY) call failed, error 13

The Locator could not find the server.

......................... HHSPROXY failed test Advertisi

Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders

......................... HHSPROXY passed test KnowsOfRo

Starting test: RidManager

......................... HHSPROXY passed test RidManage

Starting test: MachineAccount

......................... HHSPROXY passed test MachineAc

Starting test: Services

......................... HHSPROXY passed test Services

Starting test: ObjectsReplicated

......................... HHSPROXY passed test ObjectsRe

Starting test: frssysvol

There are errors after the SYSVOL has been shared.

The SYSVOL can prevent the AD from starting.

......................... HHSPROXY passed test frssysvol

Starting test: kccevent

......................... HHSPROXY passed test kccevent

Starting test: systemlog

An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004105

Time Generated: 08/16/2003 08:58:38

(Event String could not be retrieved)

......................... HHSPROXY failed test systemlog

Running enterprise tests on : HHS.CISD

Starting test: Intersite

......................... HHS.CISD passed test Intersite

Starting test: FsmoCheck

Warning: DcGetDcName(GC_SERVER_REQUIRED) call failed, er

A Global Catalog Server could not be located - All GC's

Warning: DcGetDcName(PDC_REQUIRED) call failed, error 13

A Primary Domain Controller could not be located.

The server holding the PDC role is down.

Warning: DcGetDcName(TIME_SERVER) call failed, error 135

A Time Server could not be located.

The server holding the PDC role is down.

Warning: DcGetDcName(KDC_REQUIRED) call failed, error 13

A KDC could not be located - All the KDCs are down.

......................... HHS.CISD failed test FsmoCheck
 
T

Thomas Wagner

Looks like the same problem I'm having... any inputs from
anyone on this?

-----Original Message-----
Yes, I am working from the local console. I am certain that the DC is the
RID Master. The AD U&C shows all operations masters as being the DC and I
have manually seized the roles using NTDSUTIL. As for the DNS, I don't
believe that there are any problems. The event logs show nothing amiss, but
I have not manually checked the service other than to make sure that it is
running. I will do that and get back if there is something wrong.

Thanks for the assistance.

Mark Stinson
Horizon City, Texas


It sounds as though your other DC became the RID Master
somehow, and
didn't
transfer the role during it's DC Promo. Are you
working from the console
of
the DC when doing these operations?

Are you certain this DC is the RID master?

Are you sure that there absolutely is no DNS trouble?
(Check all
revolvers
to ensure they are pointing to the DC - including the DC's.

-ds


We are a single
domain
domain controller. The
DC
is so it was DCPROMO'd
and
the domain, I
received
16645 telling me
that which would
represent
server (both warm and
cold)
in no longer
connected
catalog. I could force it
to
domain. I keep
receiving
The snap-in shows
that
manually seized the
roles appropriate. Because
it
permissions and will not
allow
the WAN links,
which reinstalling and recreating
the
domain, but am hoping that there is a better way of
handling it. Thanks
for
any help you can give.

Mark Stinson
Horizon City, Texas

DCDIAG RESULTS
Performing initial setup:

Done gathering initial info.

Doing initial non skippeable tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\HHSPROXY

Starting test: Connectivity

......................... HHSPROXY passed test Connectiv

Doing primary tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\HHSPROXY

Starting test: Replications

[Replications Check,HHSPROXY] A recent replication attem

From BCISLAB-INSTR to HHSPROXY

Naming Context: CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=HHS,DC=

The replication generated an error (8524):

The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a D

re.

The failure occurred at 2003-08-16 08:50.20.

The last success occurred at 2002-12-13 08:49.33.

5543 failures have occurred since the last success.

The guid-based DNS name d0317994-d94a-4e61-b3ec-6b5dd

HHS.CISD

is not registered on one or more DNS servers.

[BCISLAB-INSTR] DsBind() failed with error 1722,

The RPC server is unavailable..

[Replications Check,HHSPROXY] A recent replication attem

From BCISLAB-INSTR to HHSPROXY

Naming Context: CN=Configuration,DC=HHS,DC=CISD

The replication generated an error (8524):

The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a D

re.

The failure occurred at 2003-08-16 08:50.20.

The last success occurred at 2002-12-13 09:04.54.

5587 failures have occurred since the last success.

The guid-based DNS name d0317994-d94a-4e61-b3ec-6b5dd

HHS.CISD

is not registered on one or more DNS servers.

[Replications Check,HHSPROXY] A recent replication attem

From BCISLAB-INSTR to HHSPROXY

Naming Context: DC=HHS,DC=CISD

The replication generated an error (8524):

The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a D

re.

The failure occurred at 2003-08-16 08:50.20.

The last success occurred at 2002-12-13 09:12.38.

5615 failures have occurred since the last success.

The guid-based DNS name d0317994-d94a-4e61-b3ec-6b5dd

HHS.CISD

is not registered on one or more DNS servers.

......................... HHSPROXY passed test Replicati

Starting test: NCSecDesc

......................... HHSPROXY passed test NCSecDesc

Starting test: NetLogons

......................... HHSPROXY passed test NetLogons

Starting test: Advertising

Fatal Error:DsGetDcName (HHSPROXY) call failed, error 13

The Locator could not find the server.

......................... HHSPROXY failed test Advertisi

Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders

......................... HHSPROXY passed test KnowsOfRo

Starting test: RidManager

......................... HHSPROXY passed test RidManage

Starting test: MachineAccount

......................... HHSPROXY passed test MachineAc

Starting test: Services

......................... HHSPROXY passed test Services

Starting test: ObjectsReplicated

......................... HHSPROXY passed test ObjectsRe

Starting test: frssysvol

There are errors after the SYSVOL has been shared.

The SYSVOL can prevent the AD from starting.

......................... HHSPROXY passed test frssysvol

Starting test: kccevent

......................... HHSPROXY passed test kccevent

Starting test: systemlog

An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004105

Time Generated: 08/16/2003 08:58:38

(Event String could not be retrieved)

......................... HHSPROXY failed test systemlog

Running enterprise tests on : HHS.CISD

Starting test: Intersite

......................... HHS.CISD passed test Intersite

Starting test: FsmoCheck

Warning: DcGetDcName(GC_SERVER_REQUIRED) call failed, er

A Global Catalog Server could not be located - All GC's

Warning: DcGetDcName(PDC_REQUIRED) call failed, error 13

A Primary Domain Controller could not be located.

The server holding the PDC role is down.

Warning: DcGetDcName(TIME_SERVER) call failed, error 135

A Time Server could not be located.

The server holding the PDC role is down.

Warning: DcGetDcName(KDC_REQUIRED) call failed, error 13

A KDC could not be located - All the KDCs are down.

......................... HHS.CISD failed test FsmoCheck


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