retrieve the product key from Windows XP Pro CD, not from system

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Galen said:
In Steve N. had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:





I can share what I've witnessed with that.

They have never responded to me personally. My assumption is that the
followup on the issue but they don't share what they do with the person who
reported it.

Well, that kinda sucketh. I'd want to know.

Steve N.
 
Steve said:
Perhaps someone should send that link to MS's piracy report?


I've already done so.

I'm tempted
to just to see their reaction. Question - when someone reports possible
piracy to MS do they respond/followup on the issue?


All I've ever received in the past are polite emailed "form letters"
thanking me for my interest in the matter and promising that the
information will be fully investigated. It would be nice to know that
the tips I've provided have actually led to some sort of definitive
action, though.

I can say that similar the web sites I've pointed out to Microsoft in
the past have ceased to exist, but I can't say if that's a result of my
actions, or not.


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both at once. - RAH
 
Bruce said:
In that they might well be older CDs, you're quite probably correct,
especially since Dell has stopped providing any CDs now.



Bruce, although Dell no longer automatically includes installation CDs, they
do make them available to their customers for an additional $10.

Well worth it, as far as I'm concerned. If I were ordering a Dell, I would
definitely order it with the optional installation CD.
 
Bruce said:
I've already done so.

Good. Thank you. I don't want to see anymore uninformed/unsuspecting XP
users get ripped off. Hopefully it will help.
All I've ever received in the past are polite emailed "form letters"
thanking me for my interest in the matter and promising that the
information will be fully investigated. It would be nice to know that
the tips I've provided have actually led to some sort of definitive
action, though.

I can say that similar the web sites I've pointed out to Microsoft
in the past have ceased to exist, but I can't say if that's a result of
my actions, or not.

Oh well... We do what we can and can only hope for the best outcome.

Thanks again, Bruce.

Steve N.
 
Bruce, although Dell no longer automatically includes installation CDs, they
do make them available to their customers for an additional $10.

That's good to know.

Well worth it, as far as I'm concerned. If I were ordering a Dell, I would
definitely order it with the optional installation CD.

Agreed.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
 
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Bruce Chambers said:
According to that web site, the OEM CDs available are specifically
branded for Dell computers. That means that:
Dell PC,
2) Those CDs will only install on a Dell computer.

The web site is nothing but a rip-off.

They have both, I purchased a generic XP Pro SP2 OEM last week from eDirect
out of curiosity. The CD was real and unbranded. I checked it against the
Microsoft piracy page and it passed all tests. They are probably not in
complience with Microsofts marketing agreement, but they seem to be
supplying the real thing.
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Michael Stevens said:
In

They have both, I purchased a generic XP Pro SP2 OEM last week from
eDirect out of curiosity. The CD was real and unbranded. I checked it
against the Microsoft piracy page and it passed all tests. They are
probably not in complience with Microsofts marketing agreement, but
they seem to be supplying the real thing.

I guess Bruce is still researching eDirect, since he has not replied, but I
would not classify eDirect as a rip-off. If you look at the prices for Adobe
and Macromedia software, eDirect is very much in line as far as competitive
pricing. I was very skeptical of this vendor and was expecting to receive a
counterfeit product that I could use to report to MS piracy. They are
probably in violation of their agreement with MS, but the product I received
is the real thing. I would not purchase the Dell branded OEM products, but I
doubt their would be a problem installing or activating. Usually a Dell
branded CD will install and activate on any computer if it has not been
previously activated. The bios lock on Dell CD's triggers a mandatory
activation on non-Dell motherboards.
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Michael said:
In

I guess Bruce is still researching eDirect, since he has not replied,
but I would not classify eDirect as a rip-off. If you look at the
prices for Adobe and Macromedia software, eDirect is very much in
line as far as competitive pricing. I was very skeptical of this
vendor and was expecting to receive a counterfeit product that I
could use to report to MS piracy. They are probably in violation of
their agreement with MS, but the product I received is the real
thing. I would not purchase the Dell branded OEM products, but I
doubt their would be a problem installing or activating. Usually a
Dell branded CD will install and activate on any computer if it has
not been previously activated. The bios lock on Dell CD's triggers a
mandatory activation on non-Dell motherboards.

They also sent a followup email yesterday to ask if I was satisfied with my
purchase. Evidently, they are a legit software vendor and they are passing
along the best prices they can to the consumer. I am sure Microsoft is aware
of their markecting practices and to date have not shut them down. I can't
say they have the best of interests in the consumer steerng their consious,
but those that qualify will get the best deal they can find for legitimate
MS CD's.
For informed consumers, the vendor is a best buy. Stay away from branded
versions unless you need the specific branded version. Purchase only
unbranded OEM or retail versions. You will not be ripped off from your
purchase and they give accurate delivery information and discriptions of
what to expect to see for bank charges.
I rarely give buyer advice, but I have been very impressed with this vendor.

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Michael said:
They also sent a followup email yesterday to ask if I was satisfied with my
purchase. Evidently, they are a legit software vendor and they are passing
along the best prices they can to the consumer. I am sure Microsoft is aware
of their markecting practices and to date have not shut them down. I can't
say they have the best of interests in the consumer steerng their consious,
but those that qualify will get the best deal they can find for legitimate
MS CD's.
For informed consumers, the vendor is a best buy. Stay away from branded
versions unless you need the specific branded version. Purchase only
unbranded OEM or retail versions. You will not be ripped off from your
purchase and they give accurate delivery information and discriptions of
what to expect to see for bank charges.
I rarely give buyer advice, but I have been very impressed with this vendor.

That's very good of you to have taken the time and expense to research
this and thanks for the detailed followup. I am still curious as to how
they came to possess Dell OEM CDs and what SP level they are at, etc.
I'd buy one to see but I can't justify the expense to merely satisfy my
curiosity, especially since being in the education industry we can
purchase XP Upgrade CDs for $15 and Upgrade Licenses for $40 from OETC.

Steve N.
 
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