Restarting windows in DOS

[Guest]

How can i restart my windows xp in ms-dos without using bootable cd-rom or
startup disk
i'm asking about there's any commandor tools can do it from inside the
operating system ?!

 

[Codswallop]

How can i restart my windows xp in ms-dos without using bootable cd-rom or
startup disk
i'm asking about there's any commandor tools can do it from inside the
operating system ?!

Function key F8 does this. You may have to press it several times early on
during boot-up to make the menu appear and prevent Windows loading. One of
the menu choices is to boot into DOS.

 

[GHalleck]

How can i restart my windows xp in ms-dos without using bootable cd-rom or
startup disk
i'm asking about there's any commandor tools can do it from inside the
operating system ?!

MS-DOS is not included inside of Windows XP. However, there
is Command Prompt, which emulates MS-DOS.

 

[Brian A]

If by DOS you mean the Recovery Console, see:
Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314058



How to enable an administrator to log on automatically in Recovery Console

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;312149



How to install the Windows Recovery Console

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;216417



How to install and use the Recovery Console in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307654



How to remove Windows Recovery Console

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555032



http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.htm

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[Codswallop]

Function key F8 does this. You may have to press it several times early on
during boot-up to make the menu appear and prevent Windows loading. One of
the menu choices is to boot into DOS.

Ignore that, total crap.

 

[John John]

Function key F8 does this. You may have to press it several times early on
during boot-up to make the menu appear and prevent Windows loading. One of
the menu choices is to boot into DOS.

I have never seen this on any NT version, none of them include DOS.

John

 

[John John]

Ignore that, total crap.

Whoops! I replied before I read this post.

John

 

[Pop`]

Ignore that, total crap.

No, other than a poor phrasing, it is not wrong.

 

[Pop`]

How can i restart my windows xp in ms-dos without using bootable
cd-rom or startup disk
i'm asking about there's any commandor tools can do it from inside the
operating system ?!

Press F8 as soon as the POST completes and the boot starts. You'll be
presented with a menu where you can go into the Command Prompt mode, called
"DOS" by the less experienced users.
The Command Prompt mode, which looks just like DOS mode, has many of the
familiar DOS commands available plus a lot more written for XP. When you
get there, just type HELP to see the available commands.

For what it's worth, and regardless of what some dummies like to keep
harping on, you WILL find reference to DOS in XP's paperwork. What you will
NOT find is a reference to MSDOS, because it's no longer the same MSDOS;
instead it's a revised method and named the Command Prompt, appropriately
enough, but MS still uses the word DOS in many places in their papers.

Pop`

 

[Codswallop]

Press F8 as soon as the POST completes and the boot starts. You'll be
presented with a menu where you can go into the Command Prompt mode,
called "DOS" by the less experienced users.
The Command Prompt mode, which looks just like DOS mode, has many of the
familiar DOS commands available plus a lot more written for XP. When you
get there, just type HELP to see the available commands.

For what it's worth, and regardless of what some dummies like to keep
harping on, you WILL find reference to DOS in XP's paperwork. What you
will NOT find is a reference to MSDOS, because it's no longer the same
MSDOS; instead it's a revised method and named the Command Prompt,
appropriately enough, but MS still uses the word DOS in many places in
their papers.

Pop`

I tried this in XP but it doesn't work. It used to work with Win98.

 

[Yves Leclerc]

XP, like 2000 and NT, does not any DOS with it. That is why you need a boot
diskette/CD in order to have a method of booting to DOS. Newer PC now have
the option to boot by USB devices also.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

How can i restart my windows xp in ms-dos without using bootable cd-rom or
startup disk
i'm asking about there's any commandor tools can do it from inside the
operating system ?!

Not to put too fine a point on it, you don't.

There is no way to reboot a WinXP PC into Real Mode DOS unless
you've set up a dual-boot system. The WinNT family of 32-bit
graphical operating systems, of which WinXP is the latest generation,
has never used, included, or "ridden upon" MS-DOS. The Recovery
Console's CLI (Command Line Interface) is the closest you can come to
the old "DOS mode."


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[Pop`]

Press F8 as soon as the POST completes and the boot starts. You'll be
presented with a menu where you can go into the Command Prompt mode,
called "DOS" by the less experienced users.
The Command Prompt mode, which looks just like DOS mode, has many
of the familiar DOS commands available plus a lot more written for
XP. When you get there, just type HELP to see the available commands.

For what it's worth, and regardless of what some dummies like to keep
harping on, you WILL find reference to DOS in XP's paperwork. What
you will NOT find is a reference to MSDOS, because it's no longer the
same MSDOS; instead it's a revised method and named the Command
Prompt, appropriately enough, but MS still uses the word DOS in many
places in their papers.
Pop`

Well, I stand corrected on the F8 key: That's what I get for not verifying
first. I was sure there was a "Command Prompt" choice there, but no, there
isn't.

And after having thought about it more I understand why it wouldn't be
there. The closest you can come is to use the Command Prompt:
start; programs; accessories; command prompt
That will open what MS refers to as the "DOS" window, but that isn't the
"MSDOS" window you're used to in 98, 95, etc., though it's close in many
respects. It does provide a bunch of the old MSDOS commands plus a lot more
XP commands too. Again, Help /? will list the commands you can use.

It would probably get you better responses to indicate what it is you want
to do in DOS. If it's run old programs, they may or may not work. Most
Batch files will still work. Occasionally an old command will be missing,
but I've discovered that very often pulling that command file off an old
MSDOS floppy will work to provide the missing file. It depends on which
file it is.

Pop1

 

[John John]

Pop` wrote:

Well, I stand corrected on the F8 key: That's what I get for not verifying
first. I was sure there was a "Command Prompt" choice there, but no, there
isn't.

There should be... Safe Mode with Command Prompt. Don't you have it?

But once again, this is not MS-DOS, it's the NT 32bit Command
Interpreter. If the OP wants real DOS he will have to boot in another
fashion.

John

 

[Brian A]

Well, I stand corrected on the F8 key: That's what I get for not verifying first.
I was sure there was a "Command Prompt" choice there, but no, there isn't.

Not on it's own line, yet there is Safe Mode w/command prompt.

And after having thought about it more I understand why it wouldn't be there. The
closest you can come is to use the Command Prompt:
start; programs; accessories; command prompt
That will open what MS refers to as the "DOS" window, but that isn't the "MSDOS"
window you're used to in 98, 95, etc., though it's close in many respects. It does
provide a bunch of the old MSDOS commands plus a lot more XP commands too. Again,
Help /? will list the commands you can use.

Technically it doesn't open what MS refers to as a DOS window, it opens what they
refer to as the "command line shell" for the "command interpreter" as opposed to the
MS-DOS shell. Not much more than symantecs. Either way AFAIK, XP will utilize both
command.com and cmd.exe.

It would probably get you better responses to indicate what it is you want to do in
DOS. If it's run old programs, they may or may not work. Most Batch files will
still work. Occasionally an old command will be missing, but I've discovered that
very often pulling that command file off an old MSDOS floppy will work to provide
the missing file. It depends on which file it is.

Pop1

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[Bruce Chambers]

There should be... Safe Mode with Command Prompt. Don't you have it?

That option starts Windows in Safe Mode, and then opens a CLI window;
it's not DOS.


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[Paul Knudsen]

I have never seen this on any NT version, none of them include DOS.

Well, it's not CALLED DOS and some of the commands are different, but
the instructions cited get you into command mode.

 

[John John]

Well, it's not CALLED DOS and some of the commands are different, but
the instructions cited get you into command mode.

It's not CALLED DOS and it isn't DOS! The original poster asked if he
could boot windows xp in ms-dos without using bootable cd-rom or
startup disk and the answer is no he can't. He can boot to cmd.exe,
that isn't ms-dos. It look's like DOS but it doesn't quack like DOS and
it doesn't walk like DOS, so it isn't DOS! I'm sure he/she doesn't want
to boot to cmd.exe just for the hell of it, you can perfectly run
cmd.exe from a Windows session. He probably wants to run old dos
programs that can't run on xp and he's looking for the equivalent boot
to MS-DOS that was present with the Windows 9x boot menu, there is no
such thing with any NT versions unless you want to setup a multi-boot
environment.

John

 

[Pop`]

A few corrections:

First:
"MSDOS" is NOT "DOS" and never was. DOS = Disk Operating System.

It's not CALLED DOS and it isn't DOS! The original poster asked if he
could boot windows xp in ms-dos without using bootable cd-rom or
startup disk and the answer is no he can't.

Correct, just as you state it.

He can boot to cmd.exe,

that isn't ms-dos. It look's like DOS but it doesn't quack like DOS

MSDOS, again, is NOT the same as DOS! Even Microsoft correctly discusses
the DOS features of XP, NOT MSDOS! The differences you'd like to describe
are that XP is not built on DOS as other Windows were. Instead, the DOS in
XP is available via the newly coined Command Prompt.

and it doesn't walk like DOS, so it isn't DOS!

And that's not true at all:
-- Many MSDOS familiar commands are still available at the command prompt,
or "DOS" prompt.
-- Many MORE commands, not previously part of MSDOS (or DRDOS, et al) are
now available in XP.
-- Very often, miany of the "missing" commands that used to be in MSDOS
will still work at the command prompt or XPs DOS. EG, choose.exe for batch
if/then statements and several others.

I'm sure he/she

doesn't want to boot to cmd.exe just for the hell of it, you can
perfectly run cmd.exe from a Windows session.

You cannot be "sure" of any such thing.

He probably wants to

run old dos programs that can't run on xp and he's looking for the

Some will run, some won't. It's a crap shoot, but most of the simpler,
smaller DOS programs will in fact work well.

equivalent boot to MS-DOS that was present with the Windows 9x boot
menu, there is no such thing with any NT versions unless you want to
setup a multi-boot environment.

Only sort if: You've neglected several things that are possible but since
they aren't asked for, I'm not going into that much detail - if you're going
to answer questions like this, you should get your facts straight first
because it only adds to the confusion and misinformation already in
existance.


Regards,

Pop`

 

[John John]

A few corrections:

If you want to argue and split hairs then fine. In modern computer
parlance when we speak of DOS we most often refer to the 16 bit
pre-Windows operating systems. MS-DOS is a Microsoft trademark for this
old operating system. If you want to argue about irrelevant technical
terms that's fine too, do as you please.

John