Replacing OE with Outlook

G

Goomba

Re: Win XP SP3
Whenever I install a system update, Outlook becomes the mail program by
default and I have to manually change back to OE. Now, I would like to use
Outlook instead of OE but I don't know how to do it. I need some guidance.
 
R

Roady [MVP]

Where do you get stuck?
When you start Outlook you are prompted to fill out your mail account
details. If not, use the Tools-> Account Settings... menu instead.
If you do not want the fact that Outlook becomes the default, you can simply
uninstall Outlook if you do not intend to use it.

If you want to get your Outlook Express messages into Outlook you can use
the Export function from within OE.
For further details see;
http://www.howto-outlook.com/howto/migratefromoewlm.htm
 
D

DL

You configure Outlook, by adding your Mail Accounts, how you do this depends
on Outlook version and type of mail accounts, ie pop,imap or?
Once done in OE you export msgs to Outllook
 
V

VanguardLH

Goomba said:
Re: Win XP SP3
Whenever I install a system update, Outlook becomes the mail program by
default and I have to manually change back to OE. Now, I would like to use
Outlook instead of OE but I don't know how to do it. I need some guidance.

Guidance on what? You didn't ask a question. You made 2 declarative
statements on disconnected issues.

It is a known long-time rudeness of Micrsoft that Office updates will change
the default e-mail client back to Outlook.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933450/en-us
Applies to other versions of Outlook than just 2003. Microsoft isn't the
only e-mail program vendor that is similarly rude.

To learn how to use Outlook, you could read its included help or, better
yet, go to your local public library and read a Dummies book on it. Or just
dive and in and start learning from scratch.
 
G

Goomba

Disconnected? Hardly. But for the sake of clarity for any other language
challenged experts, let me explain differently.
I want to use Outlook instead of OE. Now that I wish to do so, I don't know
how to install/configure or whatever else needs to be done to male Outlook my
email program. In fact, I don't even know where to find the program within my
system. As to the library, geez, I thought this forum was a better place to
start.
 
V

VanguardLH

Goomba said:
Disconnected? Hardly. But for the sake of clarity for any other language
challenged experts, let me explain differently.
I want to use Outlook instead of OE. Now that I wish to do so, I don't know
how to install/configure or whatever else needs to be done to male Outlook my
email program. In fact, I don't even know where to find the program within my
system. As to the library, geez, I thought this forum was a better place to
start.

"Outlook becomes the mail program by default [after updates]."
"I would like to use Outlook ... need guidance."
One implies a question of why the change happens after updates. The other
implies a question on how to use Outlook. Not the same topics.

"I would like to use Outlook instead of OE but I don't know how to do it."
You want us to compose a book here to teach you on how to use Outlook when
included help is already available and books already exist? You asked on
how to *use* Outlook. Perhaps you actually meant to ask on how to configure
an e-mail account within Outlook (which would be only one small topic in how
to *use* Outlook). I can only read what you wrote, not what you meant to
say. Vague questions, especially implied ones, engender vague responses.

Without you identifying who is your e-mail provider, you expect anyone to
tell you what the settings should be? Your unidentified e-mail provider
should have web help pages on how to use their service and may even include
instructions on how to configure your e-mail client. or you could contact
them (phone, chat, e-mail) if support is included with the e-mail account.
Since the unidentified e-mail provider was usable in Outlook Express, you
should be able to transfer those same settings into an e-mail account
defined within Outlook. In Outlook, use the Tools -> Email Accounts to add
a new e-mail account and then transfer the OE settings into the new Outlook
account, or just enter the ones the unidentified e-mail provider tells you
to use. However, navigation in Outlook to define accounts may differ
depending on WHICH version of Outlook you are using but wasn't identified
here. Alternatively, you could use File -> Import to import the e-mail
accounts from OE into Outlook.

If you don't see the unidentified version of Outlook on the desktop as an
icon or in the Start menu in a Microsoft Office group, are you sure that you
have installed Outlook? Outlook is not included in all editions and
versions of MS-Office. Outlook is not included in Windows. It is a
component of Microsoft Office (or can be purchased alone). You might not
have Outlook on your host. If you look under "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office" in Windows Explorer, do you see an "Office<version>" subfolder
(where <version> reflects the version of MS-Office that you supposedly
installed, like 10.0 for Office XP, 11.0 for Office 2003, and 12.0 for
Office 2007)? Under that folder, is there an outlook.exe file?
Alternatively, go into Add/Remove Programs and click the Change button for
Microsoft Office. Select to add/remove components. Then see if there is a
checkmark next to the Outlook categories of components or if Outlook is even
listed (since it may not be included in the MS-Office suite that you
bought).
 
G

Goomba

Following your guidance, I cannot (and could not) find Outlook in my system.
But that seems to be the cause of my confusion. After updates were installed,
when Outlook seemed to be the default client, instead of following directions
and using it I went to Tools-Options-etc. and reverted back to OE. At those
times I had no idea that Outlook was not part of my WinXP Home system. After
all, why would the update lead me configure Outlook when I never had it?

VanguardLH said:
Goomba said:
Disconnected? Hardly. But for the sake of clarity for any other language
challenged experts, let me explain differently.
I want to use Outlook instead of OE. Now that I wish to do so, I don't know
how to install/configure or whatever else needs to be done to male Outlook my
email program. In fact, I don't even know where to find the program within my
system. As to the library, geez, I thought this forum was a better place to
start.

"Outlook becomes the mail program by default [after updates]."
"I would like to use Outlook ... need guidance."
One implies a question of why the change happens after updates. The other
implies a question on how to use Outlook. Not the same topics.

"I would like to use Outlook instead of OE but I don't know how to do it."
You want us to compose a book here to teach you on how to use Outlook when
included help is already available and books already exist? You asked on
how to *use* Outlook. Perhaps you actually meant to ask on how to configure
an e-mail account within Outlook (which would be only one small topic in how
to *use* Outlook). I can only read what you wrote, not what you meant to
say. Vague questions, especially implied ones, engender vague responses.

Without you identifying who is your e-mail provider, you expect anyone to
tell you what the settings should be? Your unidentified e-mail provider
should have web help pages on how to use their service and may even include
instructions on how to configure your e-mail client. or you could contact
them (phone, chat, e-mail) if support is included with the e-mail account.
Since the unidentified e-mail provider was usable in Outlook Express, you
should be able to transfer those same settings into an e-mail account
defined within Outlook. In Outlook, use the Tools -> Email Accounts to add
a new e-mail account and then transfer the OE settings into the new Outlook
account, or just enter the ones the unidentified e-mail provider tells you
to use. However, navigation in Outlook to define accounts may differ
depending on WHICH version of Outlook you are using but wasn't identified
here. Alternatively, you could use File -> Import to import the e-mail
accounts from OE into Outlook.

If you don't see the unidentified version of Outlook on the desktop as an
icon or in the Start menu in a Microsoft Office group, are you sure that you
have installed Outlook? Outlook is not included in all editions and
versions of MS-Office. Outlook is not included in Windows. It is a
component of Microsoft Office (or can be purchased alone). You might not
have Outlook on your host. If you look under "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office" in Windows Explorer, do you see an "Office<version>" subfolder
(where <version> reflects the version of MS-Office that you supposedly
installed, like 10.0 for Office XP, 11.0 for Office 2003, and 12.0 for
Office 2007)? Under that folder, is there an outlook.exe file?
Alternatively, go into Add/Remove Programs and click the Change button for
Microsoft Office. Select to add/remove components. Then see if there is a
checkmark next to the Outlook categories of components or if Outlook is even
listed (since it may not be included in the MS-Office suite that you
bought).
.
 
V

VanguardLH

Goomba said:
Following your guidance, I cannot (and could not) find Outlook in my system.
But that seems to be the cause of my confusion. After updates were installed,
when Outlook seemed to be the default client, instead of following directions
and using it I went to Tools-Options-etc. and reverted back to OE. At those
times I had no idea that Outlook was not part of my WinXP Home system. After
all, why would the update lead me configure Outlook when I never had it?

I have yet to see an update that starts up some configuration dialog for
Outlook. Updates are installed, not configured. So I don't know what
"update" to which you refer.

What version (95, 2000, XP/2002, 2003, 2007) and edition (Basic, Home &
Student, Pro, etc) of Microsoft Office do you have? Do you even have one?

Some pre-built computers are bare (i.e., no fluff software). Some bloat
their software package by throwing in trialware. And some include Office
(but not all editions include Outlook) only if you add it at the time you
purchase the pre-built computer.
 
G

Goomba

WinXP Home Ed., Ver. 5.1.2600 Build 2600
Again, after a system update has been installed, when I click on "Read Mail"
instead of going directly into "OE" I get a box indicating that "Outlook"
needs to be configured. If in fact I don't have Outlook as part of my system,
why would such a message be displayed?
 
V

VanguardLH

Goomba said:
WinXP Home Ed., Ver. 5.1.2600 Build 2600
Again, after a system update has been installed, when I click on "Read Mail"
instead of going directly into "OE" I get a box indicating that "Outlook"
needs to be configured. If in fact I don't have Outlook as part of my system,
why would such a message be displayed?

Did you ever have Office installed (whether an OEM, retail, or trial
version)? It looks like it was installed then removed. Did you get your
computer as a used item? If so, did the seller wipe the drive and put on a
fresh install of Windows, or did they just uninstall the programs they
wanted to keep and gave you a polluted hard disk in the used computer?

It looks like Outlook was installed at some time and them removed. However,
the default e-mail client was never changed.

- Go into Outlook Express' options and select to make it the default e-mail
client.

- Go into Internet Options -> Programs and make OE the default e-mail
client.

You clicked "Read Mail" WHERE? Perhaps in the command bar in Internet
Explorer? There is another cause for that problem that the settings above
won't fix. The following describes an issue with Windows, not Internet
Explorer:

"Read Mail" button does not work in Internet Explorer
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/read-mail-button-does-not-work-in-internet-explorer/
 
G

Goomba

Purchased new from Dell. Yes, Read Mail is from the command bar. #1 son had
it for a month or so a while back so who knows what he might have done. Just
did a thorough search and cannot find Outlook anywhere, so what you're saying
about being removed could well be the case. I'll dig up another version and
install. Thank you for the time.
 

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