Repair option not available

[George Hester]

Consider it Water over the Dam. Now you know and you can write home about
it. Don't be too upset I can understand your frustration but honestly we
all live and learn.

 

[! Anong]

I'm installing a new motherboard and booted with my XP 1a service pack CD
and wanted to do a repair to replace the drivers but there is no repair
option. Setup only allows for a fresh install. In other words, Setup fails
to find either of my XP installations (c and d drive) and offer me teh
chance to repair

What's wrong?

 

[Galen]

In Jupiter Jones [MVP] <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

Not at all, that is why the word "Perhaps" is there.

Well Jupiter, there comes a time when all you can do is sigh... "That old
mare she aint what she used to be, she aint what she used to be." I'm still
grateful usenet exists, I just long for the 'old days.'

Reminds me of the adage, "You can lead a horse to the water..."

Here's an odd way to think about the issue...

What if the OP had been in any one of a number of different countries but
been using a proxy server thus their time was "correct" for where they
possibly were on the planet and the IP address wasn't truly indicative of
their physical location on the planet? These days, with the leasing and
sub-leasing of IP blocks you never can truly depend on the whois information
being correct even and that still doesn't take into account the possibility
that they're using a proxy server of one type or another. With such
configurations (or leasing) one could appear to be on an entirely separate
part of the globe and the IP address's owner/leaser (is leaser a word???)
could be on the complete opposite side of the planet.

Some interesting food for thought if nothing else.

Galen
--

"And that recommendation, with the exaggerated estimate of my ability
with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the
very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be
made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby."

Sherlock Holmes

 

[Will Denny]

In Jupiter Jones [MVP] <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:


Well Jupiter, there comes a time when all you can do is sigh... "That old
mare she aint what she used to be, she aint what she used to be." I'm
still grateful usenet exists, I just long for the 'old days.'

Reminds me of the adage, "You can lead a horse to the water..."

Here's an odd way to think about the issue...

What if the OP had been in any one of a number of different countries but
been using a proxy server thus their time was "correct" for where they
possibly were on the planet and the IP address wasn't truly indicative of
their physical location on the planet? These days, with the leasing and
sub-leasing of IP blocks you never can truly depend on the whois
information being correct even and that still doesn't take into account
the possibility that they're using a proxy server of one type or another.
With such configurations (or leasing) one could appear to be on an
entirely separate part of the globe and the IP address's owner/leaser (is
leaser a word???) could be on the complete opposite side of the planet.

Some interesting food for thought if nothing else.

Galen
--

"And that recommendation, with the exaggerated estimate of my ability
with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the
very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be
made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby."

Sherlock Holmes

Te OP hasn't come back yet as to what kind of XP CD hr/she has!!V

 

[Will Denny]

Fix your damned clock! Post dating is incredibly rude and many people,
myself included, will not respond to post daters except to tell them to
fix their clock, calendar and/or time zone. You are in Singapore
(GMT+0800), yet your time zone is set to US Mountain Time (GMT-0700). And
before you say anything, the reader's server automatically adjusts the
time for their own time zone and it certainly isn't 10:03 tomorrow morning
here in the UK!

Fix it and you might receive a more helpful response from me. Otherwise,
you'll just end up killfiled.

You OK Sarah?

Will

 

[Galen]

In Will Denny <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

Te OP hasn't come back yet as to what kind of XP CD hr/she has!!V

(The old mare is Usenet by the way, figured I should make that clear. I
recalled a conversation in a private email list that you were partaking in
and after reading this thought I'd clarify that it's usenet that's old and
nothing like it used to be.) And no, they haven't... I just wanted to remind
people that IP addresses can (and do) lie easily enough. Just because we can
trace IP addresses to a location doesn't mean that the OP was actually
anywhere near that part of the globe with any certainty. The last time I
looked at mine the State was wrong, right region but wrong state. When I was
using a different compression utility my IP address had me all the way in
Australia. (The worst part was Google was convinced I was there so every
time I went to give someone a link it came out .com.au which was a bit
frustrating and one of the reasons I switched to one hosted in the States.)
Even still with the increased awareness of security issues more and more
people are beginning to use anonymous proxy servers (or so they hope they're
anonymous) and that skews things even more further. Coupled with the
depletion of IP addresses, leasing, and sub-leasing it is no longer a true
measure to find where people are posting from. It can be off by entire
continents.

The thread portion in which I was responding to was the part of Jupiter
pointing out that while Miss Tick had been strong in her approach and even
then that there was no call for the next person in line to be aggressive and
that, to be honest, is what isn't like it used to be. I happen to agree with
Jupiter on this one. Those of us who've taken the time to watch the postings
from Miss Tick probably also agree with Jupiter. Yes, she was strong willed
in her posting but not outlandishly so and to react towards that
aggressively - as the person behind her did - is just plain silliness.
Anyone who's ever posted in here should long since be aware that failing to
not take the caps lock off, setting your time ahead, or posting gibberish is
going to get Miss Tick to yell at you. We've come to accept it or, in some
cases, appreciate it because some of the things said are often things we
simply wanted to say but didn't quite have the gall. And for someone to come
and respond to that in that manner is abhorrent. Not to mention it serves no
purpose.

Once usenet was pretty tame really, a nice quite place where you could bring
the family for a picnic. Well, okay, not all that idyllic but these days
it's hard to go a day without witnessing at least a couple of flame wars
that veer so far from the original intent of the thread that it's almost
maddening at times. Anyhow, after my recollection of a past thread in which
we all reached some sort of acceptance or greater understanding I figured
I'd do better to explain myself and my verbiage lest anyone think there was
anything remotely personal involved in my post. (I wouldn't want that of
course... *nods* <g>) To speak frankly if it was assumed that my post was in
reference to Miss Tick it was not but rather both in defense of Jupiter's
ideas and the old mare wasn't her but Usenet herself and the changes that
have taken place. I saw where my post could have been read a number of ways
and just in case people didn't know better I figured I better make sure I
clarified it.

Galen
--

"And that recommendation, with the exaggerated estimate of my ability
with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the
very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be
made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby."

Sherlock Holmes

 

[Will Denny]

Sarah's OK, you've just got to know how to read her postings.

 

[Galen]

In Will Denny <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

Sarah's OK, you've just got to know how to read her postings.

Absolutely - and take the barbs with a grain of salt. *chuckles* Sometimes
she says the stuff I just wish I could say myself or I wish I'd thought of
it first. Anyone who reads Diskworld has to be okay. My point was it wasn't
a personal attack on her and I had thought that it MIGHT be a case where
people could/would view it as such and I didn't want that. I long for the
old usenet days at times but I'm grateful the beast lives on. I'd be pretty
bored without it.

Galen
--

"And that recommendation, with the exaggerated estimate of my ability
with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the
very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be
made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby."

Sherlock Holmes

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

In Will Denny <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:


(The old mare is Usenet by the way, figured I should make that clear.
I recalled a conversation in a private email list that you were
partaking in and after reading this thought I'd clarify that it's
usenet that's old and nothing like it used to be.) And no, they
haven't... I just wanted to remind people that IP addresses can (and
do) lie easily enough. Just because we can trace IP addresses to a
location doesn't mean that the OP was actually anywhere near that
part of the globe with any certainty. The last time I looked at mine
the State was wrong, right region but wrong state. When I was using a
different compression utility my IP address had me all the way in
Australia. (The worst part was Google was convinced I was there so
every time I went to give someone a link it came out .com.au which
was a bit frustrating and one of the reasons I switched to one hosted
in the States.) Even still with the increased awareness of security
issues more and more people are beginning to use anonymous proxy
servers (or so they hope they're anonymous) and that skews things
even more further. Coupled with the depletion of IP addresses,
leasing, and sub-leasing it is no longer a true measure to find where
people are posting from. It can be off by entire continents.
The thread portion in which I was responding to was the part of
Jupiter pointing out that while Miss Tick had been strong in her
approach and even then that there was no call for the next person in
line to be aggressive and that, to be honest, is what isn't like it
used to be. I happen to agree with Jupiter on this one. Those of us
who've taken the time to watch the postings from Miss Tick probably
also agree with Jupiter. Yes, she was strong willed in her posting
but not outlandishly so and to react towards that aggressively - as
the person behind her did - is just plain silliness. Anyone who's
ever posted in here should long since be aware that failing to not
take the caps lock off, setting your time ahead, or posting gibberish
is going to get Miss Tick to yell at you. We've come to accept it or,
in some cases, appreciate it because some of the things said are
often things we simply wanted to say but didn't quite have the gall.
And for someone to come and respond to that in that manner is
abhorrent. Not to mention it serves no purpose.
Once usenet was pretty tame really, a nice quite place where you
could bring the family for a picnic. Well, okay, not all that idyllic
but these days it's hard to go a day without witnessing at least a
couple of flame wars that veer so far from the original intent of the
thread that it's almost maddening at times. Anyhow, after my
recollection of a past thread in which we all reached some sort of
acceptance or greater understanding I figured I'd do better to
explain myself and my verbiage lest anyone think there was anything
remotely personal involved in my post. (I wouldn't want that of
course... *nods* <g>) To speak frankly if it was assumed that my post
was in reference to Miss Tick it was not but rather both in defense
of Jupiter's ideas and the old mare wasn't her but Usenet herself and
the changes that have taken place. I saw where my post could have
been read a number of ways and just in case people didn't know better
I figured I better make sure I clarified it.
Galen

Thanks, Galen - I think! ;o)

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

In Will Denny <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:


Absolutely - and take the barbs with a grain of salt. *chuckles*
Sometimes she says the stuff I just wish I could say myself or I wish
I'd thought of it first. Anyone who reads Diskworld has to be okay.
My point was it wasn't a personal attack on her and I had thought
that it MIGHT be a case where people could/would view it as such and
I didn't want that. I long for the old usenet days at times but I'm
grateful the beast lives on. I'd be pretty bored without it.

Galen

Galen,

Mr T.D.J. Pratchett would be mortified - it's DisCworld, please! I know who
PLL is by the way, I have at least two dozen (if not more) of its aliases
already killfiled.

My bark is worse than my bite, really... ;o) <eg>

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

He got plenty of helpful advice, none of which included your tirade.
Who would want your garbage advice?

More than would want your garbage opinions. Now, please, stay kill-filed,
there's a good troll...

 

[Joan Archer]

And it pays not to be too thin skinned around here, she does give out good
info at times <g>
Joan

 

[Galen]

In Miss Perspicacia Tick <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

Thanks, Galen - I think! ;o)

And you're welcome, I think... *nods* Anyhow, Yes, Disk with a C... I'm just
getting to Moving Pictures at the moment. It's the kid in me...

Galen
--

"And that recommendation, with the exaggerated estimate of my ability
with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the
very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be
made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby."

Sherlock Holmes

 

[Lpoo]

I'm sure you have many people kill filed, you would have to because of your
demeanor.
If I pissed as many people off as you, my kill file would be huge too.

 

[Tom]

Wow.Intelligence is not your strong suite is it? You have, more than anyone
else I have ever seen, been a consistent non performer.But I'm sure you have
heard that your whole life, haven't you?

 

[Guest]

Does anyone mind if i respond to the original query? It seems to me that OEM
XP most often has no repair option not a recovery console. My OEM XPP has no
cmdcons folder and certainly no repair option at the setup screen. Funny
thing though is that computer shops will tell you (as they told me) that OEM
XP is EXACTLY THE SAME as a retail version just missing the manual. This is
most obviously untrue.

 

[Ken Blake]

In

Does anyone mind if i respond to the original query? It seems
to me
that OEM XP most often has no repair option not a recovery
console.
My OEM XPP has no cmdcons folder and certainly no repair option
at
the setup screen. Funny thing though is that computer shops
will tell
you (as they told me) that OEM XP is EXACTLY THE SAME as a
retail
version just missing the manual. This is most obviously untrue.

It sometimes *is* true.

There are actually two kinds of OEM CDs. Most of the major OEMs
customize the CD for their own computers. There are no real
standards and these can vary substantially depending on which one
you have.

But there are also generic OEM CDs. These are the ones you
typically might get if you bought a system from a small local
mom-and-pop builder. These *are* identical to the retail CDs
except for the rules for installation (they don't do upgrades).

 

[Li'l Roberto]

Does anyone mind if i respond to the original query? It seems to me that
OEM
XP most often has no repair option not a recovery console. My OEM XPP has
no
cmdcons folder and certainly no repair option at the setup screen. Funny
thing though is that computer shops will tell you (as they told me) that
OEM
XP is EXACTLY THE SAME as a retail version just missing the manual. This
is
most obviously untrue.

XP OEM that comes with a new system is exactly the same as the retail
version, except for
1. it will not do an upgrade installation
2. support is the responsibility of the OEM who sold you the system

OEM systems the likes of HP, Packard Bell & Compaq are a different
story, and may be what you are referring to regarding the recovery
console.

rgds
Li'l Roberto