remove bad sector from ntfs partition

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Hod

Hi,

I have a maxtor 120GB drive which developed bad sectores on all partitions.
the drive has 3 partitions.
I deleted 2 of the partitions and reformatted using partitionmagic and got
rid of the bad sectors in these partitions.

The third partition is the system and is quit large so I dont want to copy
it and reformat.
Is there a way to remove the bad sectors form the ntfs list and recover the
space without a format?

I heard that dfsee utitily can doe this but I cannot find specific
insturctions of an ntfs partition.

Thanks
Hod
 
R

Rod Speed

I have a maxtor 120GB drive which developed bad sectores on all partitions.

How many bad sectors in total ?
the drive has 3 partitions.
I deleted 2 of the partitions and reformatted using partitionmagic and got rid
of the bad sectors in these partitions.
The third partition is the system and is quit large so I dont want to copy it
and reformat.

That means you are running without backups. Mad.
Is there a way to remove the bad sectors form the ntfs list and recover the
space without a format?

No point really, only one file per bad sector is affected.

If you have deleted that file, one of the security wipes
that wipe free space should get rid of the bad sector.
 
J

J. Clarke

Hod said:
Hi,

I have a maxtor 120GB drive which developed bad sectores on all
partitions. the drive has 3 partitions.
I deleted 2 of the partitions and reformatted using partitionmagic and got
rid of the bad sectors in these partitions.

The third partition is the system and is quit large so I dont want to copy
it and reformat.
Is there a way to remove the bad sectors form the ntfs list and recover
the space without a format?

I heard that dfsee utitily can doe this but I cannot find specific
insturctions of an ntfs partition.

First find out why you're getting bad sectors. IDE drives map out bad
sectors at the first opportunity, so not seeing them on the disk doesn't
mean that the disk is in good shape. Once an IDE drive starts showing
multiple bad sectors it's generally going to die real soon.
 
R

Ron Reaugh

Hod said:
Hi,

I have a maxtor 120GB drive which developed bad sectores on all partitions.
the drive has 3 partitions.
I deleted 2 of the partitions and reformatted using partitionmagic and got
rid of the bad sectors in these partitions.

The third partition is the system and is quit large so I dont want to copy
it and reformat.
Is there a way to remove the bad sectors form the ntfs list and recover the
space without a format?

Beware. The bad sectors shouldn't be there. Assume the drive will soon
die.
 
H

Hod

Hi Ron,

Got 9 bad sectors.

I tried chkdsk several times and it does not get rid of the bad sectors, is
that the security wipe you refer to.

I want to get rid of the bad sectors to do a partition copy with
partitionmagic and not retain the bad sectors.

Hod
 
H

Hod

Hi Ron,

If this is the case why does Maxtor support tell me to get reed of the bad
sectors by doing a low level format and not tell me to return it?

Hod
 
R

Ron Reaugh

Hod said:
Hi Ron,

Got 9 bad sectors.

I tried chkdsk several times and it does not get rid of the bad sectors, is
that the security wipe you refer to.

I want to get rid of the bad sectors to do a partition copy with
partitionmagic and not retain the bad sectors.


Your HD is about to die. Replace it.
 
P

Plato

Hod said:
Got 9 bad sectors.

I tried chkdsk several times and it does not get rid of the bad sectors, is
that the security wipe you refer to.

I want to get rid of the bad sectors to do a partition copy with
partitionmagic and not retain the bad sectors.

You cant get rid of a bad sectors. You can only use utility to mark them
bad so no data tries to write to it.
 
R

Rod Speed

Plato said:
Hod wrote
You cant get rid of a bad sectors.

He said he has already with the partitions he didnt mind reformatting.

The reformat likely triggered the drive into reallocating the bads.
You can only use utility to mark them bad so no data tries to write to it.

Its more complicated than that.
 
R

Rod Speed

Got 9 bad sectors.

Urk, looks like the drive is dying.

See what the Everest SMART display shows for that drive.
I tried chkdsk several times and it does not get rid of the bad sectors, is
that the security wipe you refer to.

Nope. A security wipe writes crap into unused sectors, so no
one can snoop there. That should trigger the drive's automatic
bad sector reallocation if the bad is in an unused sector.
I want to get rid of the bad sectors to do a partition copy with
partitionmagic and not retain the bad sectors.

That sounds like the remaining bad sectors are in files.
You're going to lose the data in those bad sectors.

Deleting the files with bad sectors in them and using
a security wipe should get rid of the bad sectors.
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

Rod Speed said:
How many bad sectors in total ?



That means you are running without backups. Mad.


No point really, only one file per bad sector is affected.

If you have deleted that file, one of the security wipes
that wipe free space should get rid of the bad sector.

But the bad sectors are not in the free space, so that won't work.
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

Ron Reaugh said:
Your HD is about to die. Replace it.

Clueless.
Find out first what's causing them before you mindlessly replace,
otherwise the same may happen to the replacement drive.
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

J. Clarke said:
First find out why you're getting bad sectors.
IDE drives

And so do SCSI drives
map out bad sectors at the first opportunity,

Which is either a write to the candidate bad sector (i.e. marked
after a previous unsuccessful read) or a successful read retry.
so not seeing them on the disk doesn't mean that the disk is in
good shape.
Once an IDE drive

But not for a SCSI drive, obviously.
starts showing multiple bad sectors it's generally going to die
real soon.

Or just not so real soon depending on the rate of increase and the
number of available spare sectors if the cause is not drive internal.
 
R

Ron Reaugh

Folkert Rienstra said:
And so do SCSI drives


Which is either a write to the candidate bad sector (i.e. marked
after a previous unsuccessful read) or a successful read retry.



But not for a SCSI drive, obviously.


Or just not so real soon depending on the rate of increase and the
number of available spare sectors if the cause is not drive internal.


"if the cause is not drive internal"...gremlins and exorcism again huh?
 
R

Ron Reaugh

Folkert Rienstra said:
Clueless.
Find out first what's causing them before you mindlessly replace,
otherwise the same may happen to the replacement drive.

Wacko, what causes an increase in bad sectors save impending more and then
drive death. Do you recommend looking gremlins and then excorism?
 
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Folkert Rienstra

Ron Reaugh said:
Wacko, what causes an increase in bad sectors save impending more and then
drive death. Do you recommend looking gremlins and then excorism?

Time for your meds, Ronnie, you're babbling incoherently again.
 
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Eric Gisin

Hod said:
Hi Ron,

If this is the case why does Maxtor support tell me to get reed of the bad
sectors by doing a low level format and not tell me to return it?
Ignore Ron, most of us do.

The PowerMax LLF also is a diagnostic. It will tell you if the drive should be replaced.

Best to run SMART utility before and save the results. The LLF resets SMART counters.
 

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