Remote Reboot on XP

G

Grant

I am looking for a way to remotely reboot XP pc's!

I have downloaded various tools that promise this
functionality, but unfortunately they all come to the
same conclusion : "Access Denied" This has something to
do with the Default Security Model that XP defaults to
(or so I believe)

The command shutdown -r -m \\[hostname] also delivers
a "Access is Denied" message

Someone please set me straight and guide me to this
reletavely simple procedure.
Is there a way (reletavely simple one) of disabling this
security so that I can also copy files "to" the relevant
host and not have to pull the file from a share on the
lan?

Flummoxed!
 
J

Janani V[MSFT]

The message 'Access is denied' is probably because you do not have
administrative privileges on the remote machine to execute the 'shutdown'
command.
Try the following sequence:
1) net use \\hostname\ipc$
Enter the administrative priveleged credentials when prompted

2) Now give the shutdown command
 
G

Grant

Brilliant!

But, I am now prompted to provide a new username and
password.

I proceed to enter Administrator as the username and the
default password which is <none> and get: Logon failure:
unknown user name or bad password.

I have ventured sililar avenues with various clone
programs, but they all bring me to the same point, where
I logon as "Guest" and have to put in a password. "Guest
is enabled on the machines in question with no password
set (or at least set to blank)

My thinking @ the moment is that there is some sort of
default local policy in XP that prevents all remote
access. Is there not a registry key that helps me
sidestep this on my local LAN?



-discombobulated!

-----Original Message-----
The message 'Access is denied' is probably because you do not have
administrative privileges on the remote machine to execute the 'shutdown'
command.
Try the following sequence:
1) net use \\hostname\ipc$
Enter the administrative priveleged credentials when prompted

2) Now give the shutdown command


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Grant said:
I am looking for a way to remotely reboot XP pc's!

I have downloaded various tools that promise this
functionality, but unfortunately they all come to the
same conclusion : "Access Denied" This has something to
do with the Default Security Model that XP defaults to
(or so I believe)

The command shutdown -r -m \\[hostname] also delivers
a "Access is Denied" message

Someone please set me straight and guide me to this
reletavely simple procedure.
Is there a way (reletavely simple one) of disabling this
security so that I can also copy files "to" the relevant
host and not have to pull the file from a share on the
lan?

Flummoxed!


.
 
G

Grant

Command Achieved Successfully, desregard last comment.

I hadn't enabled the "Guest" account -Cheeky Monkey- and
that then let me give the net use command!

But is there a way to remotely enable these guest
accounts in a batch script?

-"with egg on my face!"



-----Original Message-----
Brilliant!

But, I am now prompted to provide a new username and
password.

I proceed to enter Administrator as the username and the
default password which is <none> and get: Logon failure:
unknown user name or bad password.

I have ventured sililar avenues with various clone
programs, but they all bring me to the same point, where
I logon as "Guest" and have to put in a password. "Guest
is enabled on the machines in question with no password
set (or at least set to blank)

My thinking @ the moment is that there is some sort of
default local policy in XP that prevents all remote
access. Is there not a registry key that helps me
sidestep this on my local LAN?



-discombobulated!

-----Original Message-----
The message 'Access is denied' is probably because you do not have
administrative privileges on the remote machine to execute the 'shutdown'
command.
Try the following sequence:
1) net use \\hostname\ipc$
Enter the administrative priveleged
credentials
when prompted
2) Now give the shutdown command
and
confers no rights.
Grant said:
I am looking for a way to remotely reboot XP pc's!

I have downloaded various tools that promise this
functionality, but unfortunately they all come to the
same conclusion : "Access Denied" This has something to
do with the Default Security Model that XP defaults to
(or so I believe)

The command shutdown -r -m \\[hostname] also delivers
a "Access is Denied" message

Someone please set me straight and guide me to this
reletavely simple procedure.
Is there a way (reletavely simple one) of disabling this
security so that I can also copy files "to" the relevant
host and not have to pull the file from a share on the
lan?

Flummoxed!


.
.
 
G

Grant

Furthermore to my last post.

now that I have the IPC$ enabled how do I get to where I
want to be, to shut down the remote machine.

I deploy the "shutdown -r -w \\[hostname]" command to no
avail after enablish the IPC$
I still get an Access Denied Message.

-befuddled


-----Original Message-----
Command Achieved Successfully, desregard last comment.

I hadn't enabled the "Guest" account -Cheeky Monkey- and
that then let me give the net use command!

But is there a way to remotely enable these guest
accounts in a batch script?

-"with egg on my face!"



-----Original Message-----
Brilliant!

But, I am now prompted to provide a new username and
password.

I proceed to enter Administrator as the username and the
default password which is <none> and get: Logon failure:
unknown user name or bad password.

I have ventured sililar avenues with various clone
programs, but they all bring me to the same point, where
I logon as "Guest" and have to put in a password. "Guest
is enabled on the machines in question with no password
set (or at least set to blank)

My thinking @ the moment is that there is some sort of
default local policy in XP that prevents all remote
access. Is there not a registry key that helps me
sidestep this on my local LAN?



-discombobulated!

-----Original Message-----
The message 'Access is denied' is probably because you do not have
administrative privileges on the remote machine to execute the 'shutdown'
command.
Try the following sequence:
1) net use \\hostname\ipc$
Enter the administrative priveleged
credentials
when prompted
2) Now give the shutdown command
and
confers no rights.
I am looking for a way to remotely reboot XP pc's!

I have downloaded various tools that promise this
functionality, but unfortunately they all come to the
same conclusion : "Access Denied" This has something to
do with the Default Security Model that XP defaults to
(or so I believe)

The command shutdown -r -m \\[hostname] also delivers
a "Access is Denied" message

Someone please set me straight and guide me to this
reletavely simple procedure.
Is there a way (reletavely simple one) of disabling this
security so that I can also copy files "to" the relevant
host and not have to pull the file from a share on the
lan?

Flummoxed!


.
.
.
 
J

Janani V[MSFT]

From what I have understood from your post, you should give the credentials
for an administrative user of the remote machine during the net use
command, not the guest account name.
If you are denied to do a net use using administrative credentials ,just
check this on the remote machine
Control Panel -> Administrative tools -> Local security policy -> Local
Policies -> security options -> "Network Access : sharing and security model
for local accounts"
Change this policy's security setting to "Classic - local users
authenticate as themselves"

Now try the net use command again

Once the net use command completes successfully, give the following command:
shutdown -r -f -m \\hostname


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Grant said:
Furthermore to my last post.

now that I have the IPC$ enabled how do I get to where I
want to be, to shut down the remote machine.

I deploy the "shutdown -r -w \\[hostname]" command to no
avail after enablish the IPC$
I still get an Access Denied Message.

-befuddled


-----Original Message-----
Command Achieved Successfully, desregard last comment.

I hadn't enabled the "Guest" account -Cheeky Monkey- and
that then let me give the net use command!

But is there a way to remotely enable these guest
accounts in a batch script?

-"with egg on my face!"



-----Original Message-----
Brilliant!

But, I am now prompted to provide a new username and
password.

I proceed to enter Administrator as the username and the
default password which is <none> and get: Logon failure:
unknown user name or bad password.

I have ventured sililar avenues with various clone
programs, but they all bring me to the same point, where
I logon as "Guest" and have to put in a password. "Guest
is enabled on the machines in question with no password
set (or at least set to blank)

My thinking @ the moment is that there is some sort of
default local policy in XP that prevents all remote
access. Is there not a registry key that helps me
sidestep this on my local LAN?



-discombobulated!


-----Original Message-----
The message 'Access is denied' is probably because you
do not have
administrative privileges on the remote machine to
execute the 'shutdown'
command.
Try the following sequence:
1) net use \\hostname\ipc$
Enter the administrative priveleged credentials
when prompted

2) Now give the shutdown command


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

I am looking for a way to remotely reboot XP pc's!

I have downloaded various tools that promise this
functionality, but unfortunately they all come to the
same conclusion : "Access Denied" This has something to
do with the Default Security Model that XP defaults to
(or so I believe)

The command shutdown -r -m \\[hostname] also delivers
a "Access is Denied" message

Someone please set me straight and guide me to this
reletavely simple procedure.
Is there a way (reletavely simple one) of disabling
this
security so that I can also copy files "to" the
relevant
host and not have to pull the file from a share on the
lan?

Flummoxed!


.

.
.
 
B

Bill Sanderson

I think he'll need a password on an administrator account or a change
to the default policy about network access to do this.

I tend to use the TSSHUTDN command similarly, but it'll have the same
limitations/requirements.

Janani V said:
From what I have understood from your post, you should give the
credentials
for an administrative user of the remote machine during the net use
command, not the guest account name.
If you are denied to do a net use using administrative credentials ,just
check this on the remote machine
Control Panel -> Administrative tools -> Local security policy -> Local
Policies -> security options -> "Network Access : sharing and security
model
for local accounts"
Change this policy's security setting to "Classic - local users
authenticate as themselves"

Now try the net use command again

Once the net use command completes successfully, give the following
command:
shutdown -r -f -m \\hostname


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Grant said:
Furthermore to my last post.

now that I have the IPC$ enabled how do I get to where I
want to be, to shut down the remote machine.

I deploy the "shutdown -r -w \\[hostname]" command to no
avail after enablish the IPC$
I still get an Access Denied Message.

-befuddled


-----Original Message-----
Command Achieved Successfully, desregard last comment.

I hadn't enabled the "Guest" account -Cheeky Monkey- and
that then let me give the net use command!

But is there a way to remotely enable these guest
accounts in a batch script?

-"with egg on my face!"




-----Original Message-----
Brilliant!

But, I am now prompted to provide a new username and
password.

I proceed to enter Administrator as the username and the
default password which is <none> and get: Logon failure:
unknown user name or bad password.

I have ventured sililar avenues with various clone
programs, but they all bring me to the same point, where
I logon as "Guest" and have to put in a password. "Guest
is enabled on the machines in question with no password
set (or at least set to blank)

My thinking @ the moment is that there is some sort of
default local policy in XP that prevents all remote
access. Is there not a registry key that helps me
sidestep this on my local LAN?



-discombobulated!


-----Original Message-----
The message 'Access is denied' is probably because you
do not have
administrative privileges on the remote machine to
execute the 'shutdown'
command.
Try the following sequence:
1) net use \\hostname\ipc$
Enter the administrative priveleged
credentials
when prompted

2) Now give the shutdown command


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.

I am looking for a way to remotely reboot XP pc's!

I have downloaded various tools that promise this
functionality, but unfortunately they all come to the
same conclusion : "Access Denied" This has something
to
do with the Default Security Model that XP defaults to
(or so I believe)

The command shutdown -r -m \\[hostname] also delivers
a "Access is Denied" message

Someone please set me straight and guide me to this
reletavely simple procedure.
Is there a way (reletavely simple one) of disabling
this
security so that I can also copy files "to" the
relevant
host and not have to pull the file from a share on the
lan?

Flummoxed!


.

.

.
 
G

Grant

Still got a problem:
I have changed the Local Security Policy to "Network
Access:Classic..." and successfully performed the "net
use" command to connect to various shares. This still
does not let me remotely shutdown a machine. I must re-
itterate that the administrator account is the default
administrator account, that has no password set! I have a
fealing that there may be another standard security
policy standing in my way, perhaps some sort of remote
access policy? I just can't find the one!

Even after all these changes I can not deploy the
command "shutdown -r -f -m \\IPADDRESS(or)HOSTNAME"

There must be a way...








-----Original Message-----
I think he'll need a password on an administrator account or a change
to the default policy about network access to do this.

I tend to use the TSSHUTDN command similarly, but it'll have the same
limitations/requirements.

From what I have understood from your post, you should give the
credentials
for an administrative user of the remote machine during the net use
command, not the guest account name.
If you are denied to do a net use using administrative credentials ,just
check this on the remote machine
Control Panel -> Administrative tools -> Local security policy -> Local
Policies -> security options -> "Network Access : sharing and security
model
for local accounts"
Change this policy's security setting to "Classic - local users
authenticate as themselves"

Now try the net use command again

Once the net use command completes successfully, give the following
command:
shutdown -r -f -m \\hostname


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Grant said:
Furthermore to my last post.

now that I have the IPC$ enabled how do I get to where I
want to be, to shut down the remote machine.

I deploy the "shutdown -r -w \\[hostname]" command to no
avail after enablish the IPC$
I still get an Access Denied Message.

-befuddled



-----Original Message-----
Command Achieved Successfully, desregard last comment.

I hadn't enabled the "Guest" account -Cheeky Monkey- and
that then let me give the net use command!

But is there a way to remotely enable these guest
accounts in a batch script?

-"with egg on my face!"




-----Original Message-----
Brilliant!

But, I am now prompted to provide a new username and
password.

I proceed to enter Administrator as the username and
the
default password which is <none> and get: Logon
failure:
unknown user name or bad password.

I have ventured sililar avenues with various clone
programs, but they all bring me to the same point,
where
I logon as "Guest" and have to put in a
password. "Guest
is enabled on the machines in question with no password
set (or at least set to blank)

My thinking @ the moment is that there is some sort of
default local policy in XP that prevents all remote
access. Is there not a registry key that helps me
sidestep this on my local LAN?



-discombobulated!


-----Original Message-----
The message 'Access is denied' is probably because you
do not have
administrative privileges on the remote machine to
execute the 'shutdown'
command.
Try the following sequence:
1) net use \\hostname\ipc$
Enter the administrative priveleged
credentials
when prompted

2) Now give the shutdown command


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.

I am looking for a way to remotely reboot XP pc's!

I have downloaded various tools that promise this
functionality, but unfortunately they all come to the
same conclusion : "Access Denied" This has something
to
do with the Default Security Model that XP defaults
to
(or so I believe)

The command shutdown -r -m \\[hostname] also delivers
a "Access is Denied" message

Someone please set me straight and guide me to this
reletavely simple procedure.
Is there a way (reletavely simple one) of disabling
this
security so that I can also copy files "to" the
relevant
host and not have to pull the file from a share on
the
lan?

Flummoxed!


.

.

.


.
 
G

Grant

Success!!!

I had to change the:
"Network Access: Sharing & Security Model for Local
Accounts" setting to Classic...

And assign the administrator a password. This whole
process didn't work because I had left the admin password
blank. or assigned it (my not entering one) a blank
password!

and hey presto! I deploy the command "shutdown -i" from
the command prompt and then cut and paste my IP adress
range generated in Excel into the "add" computers section
choose reboot, change the timeout to 1 sec and Bang! they
all reboot - Horaayyy!!!!!

Thank You all!


-----Original Message-----
Still got a problem:
I have changed the Local Security Policy to "Network
Access:Classic..." and successfully performed the "net
use" command to connect to various shares. This still
does not let me remotely shutdown a machine. I must re-
itterate that the administrator account is the default
administrator account, that has no password set! I have a
fealing that there may be another standard security
policy standing in my way, perhaps some sort of remote
access policy? I just can't find the one!

Even after all these changes I can not deploy the
command "shutdown -r -f -m \\IPADDRESS(or)HOSTNAME"

There must be a way...








-----Original Message-----
I think he'll need a password on an administrator account or a change
to the default policy about network access to do this.

I tend to use the TSSHUTDN command similarly, but it'll have the same
limitations/requirements.

should
give the
credentials
for an administrative user of the remote machine during the net use
command, not the guest account name.
If you are denied to do a net use using administrative credentials ,just
check this on the remote machine
Control Panel -> Administrative tools -> Local security policy -> Local
Policies -> security options -> "Network Access : sharing and security
model
for local accounts"
Change this policy's security setting to "Classic - local users
authenticate as themselves"

Now try the net use command again

Once the net use command completes successfully, give the following
command:
shutdown -r -f -m \\hostname


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Furthermore to my last post.

now that I have the IPC$ enabled how do I get to where I
want to be, to shut down the remote machine.

I deploy the "shutdown -r -w \\[hostname]" command
to
sort
because
you
do not have
administrative privileges on the remote machine to
execute the 'shutdown'
command.
Try the following sequence:
1) net use \\hostname\ipc$
Enter the administrative priveleged
credentials
when prompted

2) Now give the shutdown command


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.

I am looking for a way to remotely reboot XP pc's!

I have downloaded various tools that promise this
functionality, but unfortunately they all come to the
same conclusion : "Access Denied" This has something
to
do with the Default Security Model that XP defaults
to
(or so I believe)

The command shutdown -r -m \\[hostname] also delivers
a "Access is Denied" message

Someone please set me straight and guide me to this
reletavely simple procedure.
Is there a way (reletavely simple one) of disabling
this
security so that I can also copy files "to" the
relevant
host and not have to pull the file from a share on
the
lan?

Flummoxed!


.

.

.


.
.
 
B

Bill Sanderson

Glad it's working!

Grant said:
Success!!!

I had to change the:
"Network Access: Sharing & Security Model for Local
Accounts" setting to Classic...

And assign the administrator a password. This whole
process didn't work because I had left the admin password
blank. or assigned it (my not entering one) a blank
password!

and hey presto! I deploy the command "shutdown -i" from
the command prompt and then cut and paste my IP adress
range generated in Excel into the "add" computers section
choose reboot, change the timeout to 1 sec and Bang! they
all reboot - Horaayyy!!!!!

Thank You all!


-----Original Message-----
Still got a problem:
I have changed the Local Security Policy to "Network
Access:Classic..." and successfully performed the "net
use" command to connect to various shares. This still
does not let me remotely shutdown a machine. I must re-
itterate that the administrator account is the default
administrator account, that has no password set! I have a
fealing that there may be another standard security
policy standing in my way, perhaps some sort of remote
access policy? I just can't find the one!

Even after all these changes I can not deploy the
command "shutdown -r -f -m \\IPADDRESS(or)HOSTNAME"

There must be a way...








-----Original Message-----
I think he'll need a password on an administrator account or a change
to the default policy about network access to do this.

I tend to use the TSSHUTDN command similarly, but it'll have the same
limitations/requirements.

message
From what I have understood from your post, you
should
give the
credentials
for an administrative user of the remote machine during the net use
command, not the guest account name.
If you are denied to do a net use using
administrative credentials ,just
check this on the remote machine
Control Panel -> Administrative tools -> Local security policy -> Local
Policies -> security options -> "Network Access : sharing and security
model
for local accounts"
Change this policy's security setting to "Classic - local users
authenticate as themselves"

Now try the net use command again

Once the net use command completes successfully, give the following
command:
shutdown -r -f -m \\hostname


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Furthermore to my last post.

now that I have the IPC$ enabled how do I get to where I
want to be, to shut down the remote machine.

I deploy the "shutdown -r -w \\[hostname]" command
to
no
avail after enablish the IPC$
I still get an Access Denied Message.

-befuddled



-----Original Message-----
Command Achieved Successfully, desregard last comment.

I hadn't enabled the "Guest" account -Cheeky Monkey-
and
that then let me give the net use command!

But is there a way to remotely enable these guest
accounts in a batch script?

-"with egg on my face!"




-----Original Message-----
Brilliant!

But, I am now prompted to provide a new username and
password.

I proceed to enter Administrator as the username and
the
default password which is <none> and get: Logon
failure:
unknown user name or bad password.

I have ventured sililar avenues with various clone
programs, but they all bring me to the same point,
where
I logon as "Guest" and have to put in a
password. "Guest
is enabled on the machines in question with no password
set (or at least set to blank)

My thinking @ the moment is that there is some
sort
of
default local policy in XP that prevents all remote
access. Is there not a registry key that helps me
sidestep this on my local LAN?



-discombobulated!


-----Original Message-----
The message 'Access is denied' is probably
because
you
do not have
administrative privileges on the remote machine to
execute the 'shutdown'
command.
Try the following sequence:
1) net use \\hostname\ipc$
Enter the administrative priveleged
credentials
when prompted

2) Now give the shutdown command


--
Thanks,
Janani.

---------------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.

I am looking for a way to remotely reboot XP pc's!

I have downloaded various tools that promise this
functionality, but unfortunately they all come to the
same conclusion : "Access Denied" This has something
to
do with the Default Security Model that XP defaults
to
(or so I believe)

The command shutdown -r -m \\[hostname] also delivers
a "Access is Denied" message

Someone please set me straight and guide me to this
reletavely simple procedure.
Is there a way (reletavely simple one) of disabling
this
security so that I can also copy files "to" the
relevant
host and not have to pull the file from a share on
the
lan?

Flummoxed!


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