Registry Maintenance

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67RAM67

I was wondering if there are any excellent FREE registry cleaners for Vista
Ultimate that is recommended by microsoft? I found something from Ascentive
that looks good but I am not fully sure (Even though it isn't free).
 
C

Charles W Davis

You are going to find that most folks here will warn you never to use any
registry cleaners, FREE or PRICED.
 
G

GrahamH

67RAM67 said:
I was wondering if there are any excellent FREE registry cleaners for Vista
Ultimate that is recommended by microsoft? I found something from
Ascentive
that looks good but I am not fully sure (Even though it isn't free).

Hi,
Not sure if these are Microsoft recommended but take a look.

http://registrycleanerhelp.org/7fjw/

Regards,
Graham.....
 
B

Billy Buddusky

67RAM67 said:
I was wondering if there are any excellent FREE registry cleaners for Vista
Ultimate that is recommended by microsoft? I found something from Ascentive
that looks good but I am not fully sure (Even though it isn't free).

There are a lot of free ones but they - free and not free - all suck.

They don't speed up your system and it's quite possible that you will
screw up your system by using them.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

I was wondering if there are any excellent FREE registry cleaners for Vista
Ultimate that is recommended by microsoft? I found something from Ascentive
that looks good but I am not fully sure (Even though it isn't free).


*All* registry cleaners, free or not, should be avoided.

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
 
J

John Barnett MVP

You don't need a registry cleaner, they cause more problems than they
actually cure. My advise is steer well clear of registry cleaners.

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R

Rick Rogers

To my knowledge, Microsoft has never endorsed any registry cleaner.

My opinion is shared by other responders in that not only are they not
recommended but they can be very dangerous.

My question to you is why do you think you need to use one?

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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

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Bruce Chambers

67RAM67 said:
I was wondering if there are any excellent FREE registry cleaners for Vista
Ultimate that is recommended by microsoft? I found something from Ascentive
that looks good but I am not fully sure (Even though it isn't free).


There is no such thing as a "good" (meaning useful or beneficial)
registry cleaner, free or otherwise. Some are less harmful than others,
but because they're all nothing but snake oil, I won't recommend any.

Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.

A little further reading on the subject:

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


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Bruce Chambers

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Bruce Chambers

Rick said:
To my knowledge, Microsoft has never endorsed any registry cleaner.


Sadly, Rick, that's no longer true. Microsoft has recognized the
potential revenue stream provided by selling snake oil products to the
gullible:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

The bright side, of course, is that Live OneCare is soon to be
discontinued.




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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
R

Rick Rogers

Actually, I was thinking strictly of third party product endorsements. In
the Win9x days, they also distributed regclean to help prevent the registry
bloat problem associated with that line.

OneCare, and the damage it caused, is something I will not miss.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
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Mike Hall - MVP

GrahamH said:
Hi,
Not sure if these are Microsoft recommended but take a look.

http://registrycleanerhelp.org/7fjw/

Regards,
Graham.....


Operating systems based upon NT ignore orphaned entries. While registry
cleaners will remove these, although maybe not all, the cleaning process may
render some or all of your computer unusable.

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Bruce Chambers

Rick said:
Actually, I was thinking strictly of third party product endorsements.


Ah, I see. In that sense, you're correct.


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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Rick Rogers said:
Actually, I was thinking strictly of third party product endorsements. In
the Win9x days, they also distributed regclean to help prevent the
registry bloat problem associated with that line.

OneCare, and the damage it caused, is something I will not miss.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com


As in 'Uniscrue' Registry Booster?


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Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
 
F

f/fgeorge

You are going to find that most folks here will warn you never to use any
registry cleaners, FREE or PRICED.

Agreed most reviews have shown they cause MANY more problems than they
solve.
 
M

Marilee

I agree with the others. I found when using XP that a registry cleaner did
more damage than good. It actually deleted important HKEY files that my
computer needed. I had to do a complete pc restore and then reinstall my
programs and download the rest from my online back up. Thank goodness I had
all that. Don't use one. In fact I was just looking up that info for a
possible one on Vista and then I remembered they are no good. When I
uninstall a program I use a special uninstaller and that clears out dead
registry files associated with the program I am removing. However to avoid
anyone saying I recommended that program I am not going to name it here. You
have to know what you are doing and how to use it or it too can remove the
wrong files. I've been doing desktop support for family and friends for years
now so I'm comfortable with it. But cleaning your registry does not speed up
your computer. Take it from all the Microsoft pros who already posted here.
You don't need one.

Happy 2009 everyone!
 
M

Memphis PC Guy

I have pointed many XP/Vista users to the Online Safety Scan provided by
Microsoft. It includes a registry cleaner. Should that be avoided as well, or
is theirs "safer" to use?

Mike
 
R

Richard G. Harper [MVP]

In theory it should be, but I don't trust any registry cleaner as far as I
can toss it. All it takes is one "orphaned entry" that isn't and something
just went splat! against the wall. Probably a program you really need. :)
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Memphis said:
I have pointed many XP/Vista users to the Online Safety Scan provided by
Microsoft. It includes a registry cleaner. Should that be avoided as well, or
is theirs "safer" to use?


One would hope that it is at least marginally safer (ignoring
Microsoft's history with the old RegClean) than 3rd party products, but
it is still no more useful.


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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 

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