Registry Entries

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Guest

I wondered if anyone can comment on this. I notice that when using registry
cleaning programs, that in addition to flagging up invalid entries which are
readily identifiable (e.g. to previously deleted programs), they often flag
up what are termed useless entries wherein the default value has not been set
in the registry. I have always been cautious about deleting these entries but
wondered is it safe to delete these entirely?
 
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Ted Zieglar

Your so-called invalid entries have no effect on the operation of your
computer. Leave your registry alone, unless you have a specific purpose
and are following specific steps. And leave the registry cleaners to the
people who get a laugh from messing up their computers.
 
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Guest

Thanks Ted. Interesting to see (on a bit further reading of the forum) that
most people including the MVPs are advocating to stay away from registry
cleaning. However I am aware that Windows Live Scanner is now combining a
registry scan amongst its maintenance tools. Is this service not provided by
Microsoft? If its not necessary why provide it?
 
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Shenan Stanley

Dermot said:
I wondered if anyone can comment on this. I notice that when using
registry cleaning programs, that in addition to flagging up invalid
entries which are readily identifiable (e.g. to previously deleted
programs), they often flag up what are termed useless entries
wherein the default value has not been set in the registry. I have
always been cautious about deleting these entries but wondered is
it safe to delete these entirely?

Ted said:
Your so-called invalid entries have no effect on the operation of
your computer. Leave your registry alone, unless you have a
specific purpose and are following specific steps. And leave the
registry cleaners to the people who get a laugh from messing up
their computers.
Thanks Ted. Interesting to see (on a bit further reading of the
forum) that most people including the MVPs are advocating to stay
away from registry cleaning. However I am aware that Windows Live
Scanner is now combining a registry scan amongst its maintenance
tools. Is this service not provided by Microsoft? If its not
necessary why provide it?

Ted said:
Perhaps you should investigate exactly what WLS is doing.

http://safety.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm
 
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Shenan Stanley

Dermot said:
If you check out the link I think its clear enough

Actually - it says the same thing every other registry cleaner has for
years.

No one doubts that cleaning up some entries are okay.
I have recommended CrapCleaner and its registry cleaner for some time.

However - it gets more dangerous when users trust these applications without
research and/or they begin dabbling on their own without the proper care.
Most third-party registry cleaners have (at least in the past) been
haphazard in their suggestions and users less than prudent with their "click
click click - OK!" attitudes. Many machines have been scrambled because of
one too many of these incidents. heh

As for "how" to research. Google first. Cannot find anything - ask
SPECIFICALLY about said entry and state what application is suggesting you
remove it as well as any other pertinent facts.

In general - the normal home user is probably better off avoiding such
decisions - just leave the registry alone.
 
G

Guest

Thanks Shenan. I agree totally with your reply especially about some of the
third party reg cleaners which I think are downright dangerous. I still find
it interesting to see MS WLS providing this reg cleaner now though, which
kinda runs contrary to the advice of a lot of other MPVs on this forum.
Anyway back to my original question or perhaps it is difficult to be totally
definitive about this I dont know. Are entries with no default value not
doing anything and therefore safe to delete or is there potential for a value
to be set at some stage and therefore the entry should be left alone. It is
unclear from my attempts on Google etc....

As the default value is unset I assume no particular programme depends on
the entry or am I mistaken? By the way I also use CC which is a great program.

Thanks again
 
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Shenan Stanley

Dermot said:
Thanks Shenan. I agree totally with your reply especially about
some of the third party reg cleaners which I think are downright
dangerous. I still find it interesting to see MS WLS providing this
reg cleaner now though, which kinda runs contrary to the advice of
a lot of other MPVs on this forum. Anyway back to my original
question or perhaps it is difficult to be totally definitive about
this I dont know. Are entries with no default value not doing
anything and therefore safe to delete or is there potential for a
value to be set at some stage and therefore the entry should be
left alone. It is unclear from my attempts on Google etc....

As the default value is unset I assume no particular programme
depends on the entry or am I mistaken? By the way I also use CC
which is a great program.

The "default" key.. well - I shouldn't say "the" - as they can be found in
dozens/hundreds of places in the registry... can either mean something or
not. It could have been just put there by the application's programmers or
it might be set at some future date by a program. It's hard to say.

In most cases - it is probably okay to delete these empty keys - unless they
have special permissions on them allowing all users to change them as
opposed to the default permissions that may prevent a regular user to create
a key there and change it as needed.

In other words - if your computer is only used by you and you are the
administrator - erasing such a key would probably only result in it being
recreated as needed. If you have other users on the system - particularly
ones with less rights (or you use your system as suggested - as a regular
user) then deleting these values could come back to bite you due to possible
permissions that were set special to allow for such regular users to
utilize.

Rule of thumb with the registry... If it makes you nervous to do it - like
getting no definitive answer - don't do it on a production system.
 

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