Redundant extra page

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tcebob

I tried to set up a 10 x 4 envelope at the top of an 8 1/2 x 11 page (landscape). Brought
in a table of one cell, just for visual alignment, and text boxes for return and send
addresses. Somehow, the program has ascertained that I really want 2 pages, each 11 x 4
1/4 above and below each other. So print results in a blank sheet and an ok envelope. But
the blank sheet prints first (my option) and there is no opportunity to set the envelope
in the printer. How can I place the text and margins where they belong and wind up with
just one sheet?

What is an anchor symbol?

Thanks,

rs
 
T

Terry Farrell

I can't image what you have done, but you mentioned table. Tables MUST
always be followed by a paragraph mark that stores its formatting
information. Turn on your ShowAll command and you will probably see the
trailing paragraph mark on the blank page in its own. Select it and apply
Hidden attribute. Then when you toggle off the ShowAll command, the extra
page will disappear.
 
T

Terry Farrell

It is impossible to see what you have done because you still haven't toggled
on the ShowAll command. If you can't see the non-printing characters, you
cannot see what you have done. We can't see what you have done either.

Terry
 
T

Terry Farrell

I'm beginning to understand now. The text boxes are floating in the wrong
places - but most mysteriously, I cannot see an anchor anywhere. You could
try right-clicking on the edge of each text box and then use the position
settings all set reference to the Page. However, this is totally the wrong
way to set about this.

The Word way is to go to Tools, Envelopes and Labels, select the Envelope
tab, select the correct envelope size and Add to Document. Note that the
envelopes displayed are limited solely to those supported by your printer
driver. If 10 x 4 is not an option, select the closest envelope larger than
the 10 x 4 and Add To Document. Then go to page setup and adjust the margins
to compensate for the oversize. Once it is correct, you can save it as a
template for reuse

However, that said, I hate the wizard and prefer to create my own templates
for the envelopes that I use regularly. My colleague, Graham Mayor, has an
excellent guide in how to change the envelope layouts and several envelope
templates that you can download.

http://www.gmayor.com/changing_envelope_layout.htm

Terry
 
T

tcebob

Thanks, Terry: I will check out Graham's info. I didn't think of the Add-to-document
feature as a means of setting up a template. Worth a try.

The primary motivation for this exercise is to come up with a batch file to grab an
address from Outlook, activate Word, and print the envelope. Only one at a time; I don't
do batch mailing.

rs

: I'm beginning to understand now. The text boxes are floating in the wrong
: places - but most mysteriously, I cannot see an anchor anywhere. You could
: try right-clicking on the edge of each text box and then use the position
: settings all set reference to the Page. However, this is totally the wrong
: way to set about this.
:
: The Word way is to go to Tools, Envelopes and Labels, select the Envelope
: tab, select the correct envelope size and Add to Document. Note that the
: envelopes displayed are limited solely to those supported by your printer
: driver. If 10 x 4 is not an option, select the closest envelope larger than
: the 10 x 4 and Add To Document. Then go to page setup and adjust the margins
: to compensate for the oversize. Once it is correct, you can save it as a
: template for reuse
:
: However, that said, I hate the wizard and prefer to create my own templates
: for the envelopes that I use regularly. My colleague, Graham Mayor, has an
: excellent guide in how to change the envelope layouts and several envelope
: templates that you can download.
:
: http://www.gmayor.com/changing_envelope_layout.htm
:
: Terry
:
: : > OK, I take it you mean the Show/Hide command. Here's another shot. As I
: > said, the table is
: > removed. The principal issue is why the dashed lines indicating the
: > borders don't coincide
: > with the 4 tick marks.
: > rs
: >
: >
: > : > : It is impossible to see what you have done because you still haven't
: > toggled
: > : on the ShowAll command. If you can't see the non-printing characters,
: > you
: > : cannot see what you have done. We can't see what you have done either.
: > :
: > : Terry
: > :
: > : : > : >
: > : > (Forgot to mention: Word 2003)
: > : > Apparently the table cell complicates the situation, so I removed it.
: > Now
: > : > I have two text
: > : > boxes and have defined the margins as left 0.1", right 0.9", top 4"
: > and
: > : > bottom 0.5".
: > : > however, as you can see on the screen shot, the margin area is about
: > half
: > : > that expected,
: > : > though the tick marks are shown right.
: > : > Further, if I drag one of the textboxes to the working area, it
: > : > disappears.
: > : >
: > : > I guess I'll have to give up on the textboxes and just type the text
: > in
: > : > place.
: > : >
: > : > rs
: > : >
: > : > : > : > :I can't image what you have done, but you mentioned table. Tables
: > MUST
: > : > : always be followed by a paragraph mark that stores its formatting
: > : > : information. Turn on your ShowAll command and you will probably see
: > the
: > : > : trailing paragraph mark on the blank page in its own. Select it and
: > : > apply
: > : > : Hidden attribute. Then when you toggle off the ShowAll command, the
: > : > extra
: > : > : page will disappear.
: > : > :
: > : > : --
: > : > : Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP
: > : > :
: > : > : : > : > : >I tried to set up a 10 x 4 envelope at the top of an 8 1/2 x 11
: > page
: > : > : >(landscape). Brought
: > : > : > in a table of one cell, just for visual alignment, and text boxes
: > for
: > : > : > return and send
: > : > : > addresses. Somehow, the program has ascertained that I really want
: > 2
: > : > : > pages, each 11 x 4
: > : > : > 1/4 above and below each other. So print results in a blank sheet
: > and
: > : > an
: > : > : > ok envelope. But
: > : > : > the blank sheet prints first (my option) and there is no
: > opportunity
: > : > to
: > : > : > set the envelope
: > : > : > in the printer. How can I place the text and margins where they
: > belong
: > : > and
: > : > : > wind up with
: > : > : > just one sheet?
: > : > : >
: > : > : > What is an anchor symbol?
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Thanks,
: > : > : >
: > : > : > rs
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > :
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
: >
:
 
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tcebob

Wow!. Thanks, Graham.

rs


: One of the envelope set you can download from my web site is already
: automated to grab single addresses from Outlook. The process is described at
: http://www.gmayor.com/Macrobutton.htm
:
: --
: <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
: Graham Mayor - Word MVP
:
: My web site www.gmayor.com
:
: <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
:
: tcebob wrote:
: > Thanks, Terry: I will check out Graham's info. I didn't think of the
: > Add-to-document feature as a means of setting up a template. Worth a
: > try.
: >
: > The primary motivation for this exercise is to come up with a batch
: > file to grab an address from Outlook, activate Word, and print the
: > envelope. Only one at a time; I don't do batch mailing.
: >
: > rs
: >
: > : >> I'm beginning to understand now. The text boxes are floating in the
: >> wrong places - but most mysteriously, I cannot see an anchor
: >> anywhere. You could try right-clicking on the edge of each text box
: >> and then use the position settings all set reference to the Page.
: >> However, this is totally the wrong way to set about this.
: >>
: >> The Word way is to go to Tools, Envelopes and Labels, select the
: >> Envelope tab, select the correct envelope size and Add to Document.
: >> Note that the envelopes displayed are limited solely to those
: >> supported by your printer driver. If 10 x 4 is not an option, select
: >> the closest envelope larger than the 10 x 4 and Add To Document.
: >> Then go to page setup and adjust the margins to compensate for the
: >> oversize. Once it is correct, you can save it as a template for reuse
: >>
: >> However, that said, I hate the wizard and prefer to create my own
: >> templates for the envelopes that I use regularly. My colleague,
: >> Graham Mayor, has an excellent guide in how to change the envelope
: >> layouts and several envelope templates that you can download.
: >>
: >> http://www.gmayor.com/changing_envelope_layout.htm
: >>
: >> Terry
: >>
: >> : >>> OK, I take it you mean the Show/Hide command. Here's another shot.
: >>> As I said, the table is
: >>> removed. The principal issue is why the dashed lines indicating the
: >>> borders don't coincide
: >>> with the 4 tick marks.
: >>> rs
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> : >>>> It is impossible to see what you have done because you still
: >>>> haven't
: >>> toggled
: >>>> on the ShowAll command. If you can't see the non-printing
: >>>> characters,
: >>> you
: >>>> cannot see what you have done. We can't see what you have done
: >>>> either.
: >>>>
: >>>> Terry
: >>>>
: >>>> : >>>>>
: >>>>> (Forgot to mention: Word 2003)
: >>>>> Apparently the table cell complicates the situation, so I removed
: >>>>> it.
: >>> Now
: >>>>> I have two text
: >>>>> boxes and have defined the margins as left 0.1", right 0.9", top
: >>>>> 4"
: >>> and
: >>>>> bottom 0.5".
: >>>>> however, as you can see on the screen shot, the margin area is
: >>>>> about
: >>> half
: >>>>> that expected,
: >>>>> though the tick marks are shown right.
: >>>>> Further, if I drag one of the textboxes to the working area, it
: >>>>> disappears.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> I guess I'll have to give up on the textboxes and just type the
: >>>>> text
: >>> in
: >>>>> place.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> rs
: >>>>>
: >>>>> : >>>>>> I can't image what you have done, but you mentioned table. Tables
: >>> MUST
: >>>>>> always be followed by a paragraph mark that stores its formatting
: >>>>>> information. Turn on your ShowAll command and you will probably
: >>>>>> see
: >>> the
: >>>>>> trailing paragraph mark on the blank page in its own. Select it
: >>>>>> and
: >>>>> apply
: >>>>>> Hidden attribute. Then when you toggle off the ShowAll command,
: >>>>>> the
: >>>>> extra
: >>>>>> page will disappear.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> --
: >>>>>> Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> : >>>>>>> I tried to set up a 10 x 4 envelope at the top of an 8 1/2 x 11
: >>> page
: >>>>>>> (landscape). Brought
: >>>>>>> in a table of one cell, just for visual alignment, and text
: >>>>>>> boxes
: >>> for
: >>>>>>> return and send
: >>>>>>> addresses. Somehow, the program has ascertained that I really
: >>>>>>> want
: >>> 2
: >>>>>>> pages, each 11 x 4
: >>>>>>> 1/4 above and below each other. So print results in a blank
: >>>>>>> sheet and an ok envelope. But
: >>>>>>> the blank sheet prints first (my option) and there is no
: >>>>>>> opportunity to set the envelope
: >>>>>>> in the printer. How can I place the text and margins where they
: >>>>>>> belong and wind up with
: >>>>>>> just one sheet?
: >>>>>>>
: >>>>>>> What is an anchor symbol?
: >>>>>>>
: >>>>>>> Thanks,
: >>>>>>>
: >>>>>>> rs
:
:
 
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tcebob

Suzanne, its always a pleasure to read your advice. Will hustle right on over.

rs


: And see also http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/DetachEnvelope.htm
:
: --
: Suzanne S. Barnhill
: Microsoft MVP (Word)
: Words into Type
: Fairhope, Alabama USA
:
: Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
: all may benefit.
:
: : > Thanks, Terry: I will check out Graham's info. I didn't think of the
: Add-to-document
: > feature as a means of setting up a template. Worth a try.
: >
: > The primary motivation for this exercise is to come up with a batch file
: to grab an
: > address from Outlook, activate Word, and print the envelope. Only one at a
: time; I don't
: > do batch mailing.
: >
: > rs
: >
: > : > : I'm beginning to understand now. The text boxes are floating in the
: wrong
: > : places - but most mysteriously, I cannot see an anchor anywhere. You
: could
: > : try right-clicking on the edge of each text box and then use the
: position
: > : settings all set reference to the Page. However, this is totally the
: wrong
: > : way to set about this.
: > :
: > : The Word way is to go to Tools, Envelopes and Labels, select the
: Envelope
: > : tab, select the correct envelope size and Add to Document. Note that the
: > : envelopes displayed are limited solely to those supported by your
: printer
: > : driver. If 10 x 4 is not an option, select the closest envelope larger
: than
: > : the 10 x 4 and Add To Document. Then go to page setup and adjust the
: margins
: > : to compensate for the oversize. Once it is correct, you can save it as a
: > : template for reuse
: > :
: > : However, that said, I hate the wizard and prefer to create my own
: templates
: > : for the envelopes that I use regularly. My colleague, Graham Mayor, has
: an
: > : excellent guide in how to change the envelope layouts and several
: envelope
: > : templates that you can download.
: > :
: > : http://www.gmayor.com/changing_envelope_layout.htm
: > :
: > : Terry
: > :
: > : : > : > OK, I take it you mean the Show/Hide command. Here's another shot. As
: I
: > : > said, the table is
: > : > removed. The principal issue is why the dashed lines indicating the
: > : > borders don't coincide
: > : > with the 4 tick marks.
: > : > rs
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > : > : > : It is impossible to see what you have done because you still haven't
: > : > toggled
: > : > : on the ShowAll command. If you can't see the non-printing
: characters,
: > : > you
: > : > : cannot see what you have done. We can't see what you have done
: either.
: > : > :
: > : > : Terry
: > : > :
: > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > (Forgot to mention: Word 2003)
: > : > : > Apparently the table cell complicates the situation, so I removed
: it.
: > : > Now
: > : > : > I have two text
: > : > : > boxes and have defined the margins as left 0.1", right 0.9", top
: 4"
: > : > and
: > : > : > bottom 0.5".
: > : > : > however, as you can see on the screen shot, the margin area is
: about
: > : > half
: > : > : > that expected,
: > : > : > though the tick marks are shown right.
: > : > : > Further, if I drag one of the textboxes to the working area, it
: > : > : > disappears.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > I guess I'll have to give up on the textboxes and just type the
: text
: > : > in
: > : > : > place.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > rs
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > : > :I can't image what you have done, but you mentioned table. Tables
: > : > MUST
: > : > : > : always be followed by a paragraph mark that stores its
: formatting
: > : > : > : information. Turn on your ShowAll command and you will probably
: see
: > : > the
: > : > : > : trailing paragraph mark on the blank page in its own. Select it
: and
: > : > : > apply
: > : > : > : Hidden attribute. Then when you toggle off the ShowAll command,
: the
: > : > : > extra
: > : > : > : page will disappear.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : --
: > : > : > : Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >I tried to set up a 10 x 4 envelope at the top of an 8 1/2 x 11
: > : > page
: > : > : > : >(landscape). Brought
: > : > : > : > in a table of one cell, just for visual alignment, and text
: boxes
: > : > for
: > : > : > : > return and send
: > : > : > : > addresses. Somehow, the program has ascertained that I really
: want
: > : > 2
: > : > : > : > pages, each 11 x 4
: > : > : > : > 1/4 above and below each other. So print results in a blank
: sheet
: > : > and
: > : > : > an
: > : > : > : > ok envelope. But
: > : > : > : > the blank sheet prints first (my option) and there is no
: > : > opportunity
: > : > : > to
: > : > : > : > set the envelope
: > : > : > : > in the printer. How can I place the text and margins where
: they
: > : > belong
: > : > : > and
: > : > : > : > wind up with
: > : > : > : > just one sheet?
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > What is an anchor symbol?
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > Thanks,
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > rs
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > :
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

Graham's automated solution may be easier for you, and I usually create my
envelope templates from scratch (beginning with the envelope paper size and
placing elements manually), but for those who find it convenient to create
an envelope through the Envelopes and Labels dialog and then attach it to a
document for saving, printing, or fine-tuning, my article explains how
remove the attached "letter."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 

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