Recycle Bin should have shred capability built in

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Guest

For security purposes, the recycle bin should have a file shredder built in
that not only deletes files, but physically writes random data over the
deleted files about 10 times. I am actually surprised this is not built in
by now.

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Dale

Are you kidding? Microsoft would never participate in such a scheme as
letting you completely wipe out your files. There are so many holes in
Windows security when it comes to someone who has physical access to your
drive that it would scare you to use your PC for anything except Chess
Titans - oh, and Mahjong Titans. Besides, their buddies at the NSA wouldn't
like it if they really secured your PC.

In Windows 2000 update, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003, there was a
program called Cipher that could be used to wipe all free space on your
drive but most users never knew it was there (current company excluded since
the regulars here are generally advanced users). That does not appear to
exist in Vista.

There are 3rd-party tools that will do it, including BCWipe that you can get
for free.

Dale
 
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Dale

Home users do need it. I think the OP is correct that it should be
available as a configurable option. Someone stealing your PC could easily
recover any deleted files including files that contain passwords or other
personal financial data.

Dale

Richard G. Harper said:
A completely unnecessary feature for 99.999% of home users and probably
handled by a volume or image based install for those workers who do need
it.

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Eric Massey said:
For security purposes, the recycle bin should have a file shredder built
in
that not only deletes files, but physically writes random data over the
deleted files about 10 times. I am actually surprised this is not built
in
by now.

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click "I Agree" in the message pane.

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Richard Urban

I can just see the multitude of problems now if that existed.

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Lang Murphy

Cipher is on my Vista Ultimate RTM box...

I'm not a cipher SME, but as I understand it, cipher is the command line
utility for managing EFS encryption. Maybe there's a combo of switches to do
what you allude to below, i.e., "...wipe all free space on your hard
drive...".

Lang
 
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Scott

Home users do need it. I think the OP is correct that it should be
available as a configurable option. Someone stealing your PC could easily
recover any deleted files including files that contain passwords or other
personal financial data.
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Home users need AntiVirus software as well, but Microsoft doesn't
include that in Windows. Frankly I think that's much more important
than a file shredder.

Besides, both are offered by third parties anyway.
 
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Scott

For security purposes, the recycle bin should have a file shredder built in
that not only deletes files, but physically writes random data over the
deleted files about 10 times. I am actually surprised this is not built in
by now.
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So your significant other found out about your kinky pr0n eh?
 
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Scott

I don't recall a default installation of a Linux distro that gave me
an option to right-click on the trash icon (KDE, GNOME) and shred/wipe
the files in it.

Ubuntu has the "shred" program but it's not installed by default.
Installing such powerful software by default is dangerous business if
you ask me.

Therefore, I'll have to agree with Mr. Urban.
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Dale

Lang Murphy said:
Cipher is on my Vista Ultimate RTM box...
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You're right. My mistake. I bet I typed cypher when I searched though I
caught myself in that mispelling before I was done posting.
I'm not a cipher SME, but as I understand it, cipher is the command line
utility for managing EFS encryption. Maybe there's a combo of switches to
do what you allude to below, i.e., "...wipe all free space on your hard
drive...".
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cipher /W:C:

or

cipher /W:C:\SomeFolder
 
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Dale

Deleting a file should have the option of actually deleting a file. That's
file and disk management - easily within the scope of an operating system.
Viruses, on the other hand, are things that come after you have basic access
to the features of your hardware and, therefore, not as clearly appropriate
features for inclusion in an operating system.

Dale
 
G

Guest

Does anyone have a specific file shredder they like that is compatible with
Vista? I am considering File Shredder 2.0 or Eraser - any advice is greatly
appreciated. I would like something that can do multiple passes and take
care of "free space" as well.
Thanks!
 
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Symp EL

I use CCleaner with great results.

Vista_Dave said:
Does anyone have a specific file shredder they like that is compatible
with
Vista? I am considering File Shredder 2.0 or Eraser - any advice is
greatly
appreciated. I would like something that can do multiple passes and take
care of "free space" as well.
Thanks!
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