Recommendation for Vista Video Card

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B. Schneier

Can someone recommend an inexpensive video card that will make use of
the Aero Graphical Interface for a business environment on a computer
that uses graphic and video programs and that has a 300 watt power supply?

Thanks,

BS
 
J

James

B. Schneier said:
Can someone recommend an inexpensive video card that will make use of
the Aero Graphical Interface for a business environment on a computer
that uses graphic and video programs and that has a 300 watt power supply?

How you look at the PSU rating depends very much on the manufacturer.
If its not one of the quality PSU makers, you should look at the low to
mid range market like the x1600 Pro. Do not buy one with hypermemory,
and make sure its at least 256MB.

If its a good qaulity PSU, you can look for a more demanding card.

James
 
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The Kat

Can someone recommend an inexpensive video card that will make use of
the Aero Graphical Interface

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Tony Pacc

which ones don't have hypermemory,I think the majority of ATI cards are
hypermemory
 
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James Colbert

B. Schneier said:
Can someone recommend an inexpensive video card that will make use of the
Aero Graphical Interface for a business environment on a computer that
uses graphic and video programs and that has a 300 watt power supply?

Thanks,

BS

If you can find an ATI 9600XL, it will handle glass fine. Maybe on ebay.
Make sure your other specs are up to snuff (RAM, CPU, etc.). Also, 300w PSU
is somewhat dated, especially with today's devices. Why not spring for a
quality 450-500w PSU (Antec, PowerPC)?
 
C

Captain Midnight

James said:
How you look at the PSU rating depends very much on the manufacturer.
If its not one of the quality PSU makers, you should look at the low to
mid range market like the x1600 Pro. Do not buy one with hypermemory,
and make sure its at least 256MB.

If its a good qaulity PSU, you can look for a more demanding card.

James

Power supply requirements are dictated by the complete system.
http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

Random reboots on a system with a just out of Beta O/S would be a nightmare.
 
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Barry Watzman

You are really going to be pushing it to run Vista on any system with a
300 watt power supply. Assuming that the video slot is AGP, I'd go for
an ATI Radeon 9600, any model EXCEPT the SE, and if you want to run
Vista you will need one with at least 128MB of video memory. A more
recent and more powerful card, still under $100, would be based on the
X1300 chip. I usually recommend the MSI RX1300 Pro, but I think it's
only available as a PCI Express card.

All of that said, at some point you have to just accept that it's time
for a new PC.
 
B

B. Schneier

hi James,

I just got my new computer from Dell, the E521 with an Athlon 4200+
processor with 2 Gigs of memory and a PCI Express graphics bus with a
Nvidia Geforce 7300 LE card. I do not use it for gaming but as a
business computer using video editing and graphic software. Do all these
new video boards come with a heat sink?

BS
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whodoyaluv

Can someone recommend an inexpensive video card that will make use of
the Aero Graphical Interface for a business environment on a computer
that uses graphic and video programs and that has a 300 watt power supply?

Thanks,

BS

I'm surprised businesses would want to run vista. Sure it's an
anti-virus OS, but it's also a black-ops OS. I wouldn't want to be
competing with certain companies ;)
 
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James

Captain said:
Power supply requirements are dictated by the complete system.
http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

Random reboots on a system with a just out of Beta O/S would be a nightmare.

I stand by my remarks from my experience. I would rather have a 300
Watt PSU from a good manufacturer with good quality control, than one
of the cheap 400 Watt PSUs I can buy for $25.

I note that by using the guidelines on your website, my present machine
is more than capable of running with only a 300 Watt PSU.

There have been several threads here with people trying to run high end
video cards with less than the video card manufacturers recommended
power output. What really matters is how much power is coming down the
lead which goes into the video card and whether its stable. Wheras
ATI's website said I should have a 400 watt PSU for my card, it works
just fine on a decent quality 300 watt PSU, if my entire system isn't
too demanding.

James
 
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Lenny_Nero

James Colbert said

If you can find an ATI 9600XL, it will handle glass fine. Maybe on ebay.
Make sure your other specs are up to snuff (RAM, CPU, etc.). Also, 300w
PSU is somewhat dated, especially with today's devices. Why not spring
for a quality 450-500w PSU (Antec, PowerPC)?

I am not very up on the video card numbers but I thought that the 9600 was
old' ish (in the gpx card world) and so will not have the HDCP (DRM) that
Vista needs to work ???

As for PSU's IMO its the most understated part of the computer, not
something to skimp on, at all, and most no name brands I have seen under
load cant meet half of their advertised rating, and if they do it will be
for a milli second. Judging by the hardware needs of Vista I dont expect
that there are many 300 watt PSU's that will happly run a Vista box all
day, unless it runs the very bare minimum needed to run, on board
everything + 1 Hdd and optical.

I have always found Seasonic very good for the money with top quality
build and power use.

L.
 
M

Michael W. Ryder

Lenny_Nero said:
James Colbert said



I am not very up on the video card numbers but I thought that the 9600 was
old' ish (in the gpx card world) and so will not have the HDCP (DRM) that
Vista needs to work ???

I just ran Microsoft's Upgrade adviser for Vista and it stated that my
9700 Pro, which is even older than the 9600 series, was fine for Aero.
 
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James Colbert

Lenny_Nero said:
James Colbert said



I am not very up on the video card numbers but I thought that the 9600 was
old' ish (in the gpx card world) and so will not have the HDCP (DRM) that
Vista needs to work ???

It depends on what you want to do with the card. He was looking for an
inexpensive card that supported Aero, and the 9600xl does so quite nicely.
However, the point is moot, given that in his response he stated that his
sytem was PCI Express. The 9600xl is AGP.
 
B

Barry Watzman

Vista does not need HDCP, unless you have a Blue-Ray or HD DVD drive
(and then only for watching HD video DVDs).

The 9600 is old, but there are VERY few cards that have HDCP.
 
B

Barry Watzman

It should; a straight 9600 does. There are other requirements, but the
9600 family meets the GPU requirements. You need 128MB of video memory,
and at least 512MB of system memory also.
 
K

KCB

Lenny_Nero said:
James Colbert said



I am not very up on the video card numbers but I thought that the 9600
was
old' ish (in the gpx card world) and so will not have the HDCP (DRM)
that
Vista needs to work ???

Vista does not require HDCP to work!! You need HDCP compliant devices
to display protected content in Vista, not to get the OS to display
properly.
 
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Lenny_Nero

KCB said

Vista does not require HDCP to work!! You need HDCP compliant devices
to display protected content in Vista, not to get the OS to display
properly.

Any chance for a link ???

All I have heard says otherwize, because I thought vista classes all
content as protected, even a CC podcaste copied on vista will only allow 3
plays, which is against the licence !

L.
 

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