Recommend a Security Suite

[razor_303]

ok thanks, i think i'll go out and do some research on my own on AVG,
kasperky, and zonealarm.

I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few
months now! No impact on system. Good value for two licences

VG

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few
months now!

Your choice, of course. My view is that no matter how well something
works, it's always possible that something else could work better.
Just because you haven't had any problems with it doesn't mean it's
the best possible choice.

No impact on system.

But that's flat out impossible. Anything you run has an impact on
system performance. Some things have more of an impact than others,
and some have a small enough impact on performance that you don't
notice it. But nothing has a zero impact.

In this case, I would suspect that the impact is greater than you
realize.

Good value for two licences

Perhaps. A much better value is freeware. And there's lots of good
freeware around to compete with it.

 

[Donald McDaniel]

I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for
the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.

I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware
etc.

I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried
those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a
while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either

Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
software?

getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...

Thanks

I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night.
Here's my take on it:

1) Takes too much control away from the OS.
2) Takes too much control away from the user.
3) Too ponderous.
4) Too complicated.

Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
even install under Vista).
2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than a
unified Security Suite.
5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!

Donald McDaniel

 

[razor_303]

I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night.
Here's my take on it:

1) Takes too much control away from the OS.
2) Takes too much control away from the user.
3) Too ponderous.
4) Too complicated.

Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
even install under Vista).
2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than
a unified Security Suite.
5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!

Donald McDaniel

Sounds like Norton 08 is worse than the 07 edition, what is NOD32 companie's
website?
ive head that it is really good, id like to see their software

 

[razor_303]

Sounds like Norton 08 is worse than the 07 edition, what is NOD32
companie's website?
ive head that it is really good, id like to see their software

and does anyone know when that security suite (Eset or NOD32 Suite) will be
released?

 

[Charlie42]

and does anyone know when that security suite (Eset or NOD32 Suite) will
be released?

NOD32 is made by Eset, http://www.eset.com/. Version 2.7 works with Vista.
News about the upcoming Eset Smart Security suite can be found at
http://www.eset.com/beta. Smart Security is currently in public beta 2, Eset
does not have a public schedule for future releases.

Charlie42

 

[Chen Shen]

Just because you have to pay for something doesn't automatically make it
good. Norton demonstrates the point perfectly. Not only is it expensive, it
also hogs your resources, and even exibits spyware-like behaviour in that it
"impairs user control over material changes that affects their system
security". It is easily the worst "security" product you could ever get. But
by your reasoning it'd be "better" than the many free and indeed superior
anti-virus applications such as Avast or Antivir, which are not only
resource efficient, but also does not exibit spyware-like behaviour and have
much better detection rates than Norton.

 

[razor_303]

i just dont see getting something for free and expect it to do be better
than something i paid for, i am trying to protect my investment, i do
realize norton isnt the best, which is why im asking for people's opinions
on what works for them then i take that and combine with what ive read
online and what other people have told me.

thanks

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

i just dont see getting something for free and expect it to do be better
than something i paid for,

Although I can understand why you feel that way, in the world of
software, it is *often* not the case. Chen Shen gave you one example
of an expensive paid-for product being inferior to free ones. They are
many more examples.

 

[razor_303]

I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night.
Here's my take on it:

1) Takes too much control away from the OS.
2) Takes too much control away from the user.
3) Too ponderous.
4) Too complicated.

Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
even install under Vista).
2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than
a unified Security Suite.
5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!

Donald McDaniel

Is the current zone alarm suite the 2008 edition or it hasnt come out yet?
right now its at 7.1 but 7.0 was released in June of this year.

 

[Straight Talk]

I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for
the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.

I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware
etc.

Why?

By configuring your windows, using not inherently broken software and
using your brain you don't need any such crap.

I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried
those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a
while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either

Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
software?

You don't need additional software. Additional code doesn't make a
system more secure.

 

[Straight Talk]

If memory and CPU usage is a concern, you should take a look at Eset's NOD32
anti-virus/anti-malware. It's well known for going easy on a computer's
resources.

As a HIPS type of application NOD32 makes good sense.

You should also use a proper firewall, both Comodo Pro and Agnitum Outpost
are known to work well with NOD32.

If those firewalls are the answer, what exactly is the question?

 

[Straight Talk]

You're correct. I meant Windows Firewall.

So you're saying that AVG firewall is better than the windows
firewall? If so, you're wrong again.

AVG will also replace all the functions provided by Defender.

I doubt that.

 

[Straight Talk]

Your choice, of course. My view is that no matter how well something
works, it's always possible that something else could work better.
Just because you haven't had any problems with it doesn't mean it's
the best possible choice.

It also doesn't mean he would have had problems without it. Actually
"I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a
few months now!" means nothing in terms of security.

But that's flat out impossible. Anything you run has an impact on
system performance. Some things have more of an impact than others,
and some have a small enough impact on performance that you don't
notice it. But nothing has a zero impact.

Exactly right. And why anyone would use system resources on mostly
nonsense functions like the ones ZA implements puzzles me.

In this case, I would suspect that the impact is greater than you
realize.




Perhaps. A much better value is freeware. And there's lots of good
freeware around to compete with it.

How about no ware? Security software is mostly security theater.

You make a system secure by removing attack vectors. Not by adding
further code to it.

 

[Straight Talk]

Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
even install under Vista).
2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than a
unified Security Suite.
5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!

Here is my suggestion for a security suite:
1) Configure windows properly
2) Install and use not inherently broken software (which rules out IE,
OE and Outlook)
3) Implement Brain 1.0

 

[Pseudo Silk Kimono]

Ad-Aware
AVG
ZoneAlarm
+ good old fashioned common sense.
Oh..and having a HW FW is a good idea too.

 

[ptravel]

So you're saying that AVG firewall is better than the windows
firewall? If so, you're wrong again.

Unlike Windows Firewall, AVG gives transparent control over both in-
coming and out-going network communications.

I doubt that.

I'm not particularly interested in what you doubt or don't. The
Grisoft website provides information for anyone who is interested.

Are you one of those net posters who sense of self-worth comes from
jumping in to threads and screaming, "You're wrong!, "I doubt that!"?
I provided my opinion and explained why I hold it. You, on the other
hand, seem to have very little to say.

 

[Straight Talk]

Unlike Windows Firewall, AVG gives transparent control over both in-
coming and out-going network communications.

The outbound control myth is so tenacious.

 

[Charlie42]

If those firewalls are the answer, what exactly is the question?

NOD32 v2.7 doesn't come with a firewall, and razor_303 asked for advice on
security suites. Therefore I felt obliged to mention some firewalls I know
to work with NOD32. Imo. buying an entire security suite is the wrong thing
to do when your memory and CPU resources are stretched, rather I'd recommend
a stand alone anti-malware program and a firewall.

As Victek pointed out, Comodo for Vista is still in beta stage of
development (so is Outpost). For the time being, running NOD32 alongside
with Windows Firewall is an option. If you feel a third party firewall is
required, both PCTools and Jetico have released firewalls for Vista. PCTools
is a bit of a hog though, I haven't tried Jetico myself.

Charlie42

 

[Straight Talk]

NOD32 v2.7 doesn't come with a firewall, and razor_303 asked for advice on
security suites. Therefore I felt obliged to mention some firewalls I know
to work with NOD32. Imo. buying an entire security suite is the wrong thing
to do when your memory and CPU resources are stretched, rather I'd recommend
a stand alone anti-malware program and a firewall.

Okay. The reason for my question was more because I was interested in
what problem these personal firewalls were meant to solve.

As Victek pointed out, Comodo for Vista is still in beta stage of
development (so is Outpost). For the time being, running NOD32 alongside
with Windows Firewall is an option. If you feel a third party firewall is
required, both PCTools and Jetico have released firewalls for Vista. PCTools
is a bit of a hog though, I haven't tried Jetico myself.

I don't feel that a third party firewall is needed. Therefore I was
curious as to why you think so.