RealOne remover freeware?

[Mister Charlie]

The main problem with the Uninstaller built into Windows is that it
doesn't monitor all files that are installed, and all registry
changes. So obviously there will be left overs from a Windows
Add/Remove uninstall. So just depending on the Windows native
uninstaller, for all your uninstalls. Will over time, leave more and
more junk in your system, and registry. That's why a 3rd party
uninstaller is recommended to monitor *All* installs. My favorite
Freeware uninstaller is Total Uninstall.

Yes, I went to go thru the Real uninstall and of course there was a file
missing (which was, in fact, in the Real folder) so it wouldn't
uninstall. Cute. I simply went and deleted the program file folder.

An uninstaller program is nice to know about (thanks) after the fact but
still won't help me. Arg.

 

[Night2000]

Yes, I went to go thru the Real uninstall and of course there was a file
missing (which was, in fact, in the Real folder) so it wouldn't
uninstall. Cute. I simply went and deleted the program file folder.

An uninstaller program is nice to know about (thanks) after the fact but
still won't help me. Arg.

Have you searched through the registry for "realone" or "real one"
entries? Of course you should back up the registry before messing with
it. When ever I uninstall a program I always search the registry to
try and get rid of any stray keys that might have been left.

Another option that works more times then not, is to re-install the
application again. However this time you make sure to use an
uninstaller to monitor the installation. Then you would uninstall the
application again using the *Uninstaller* that monitored the
installation. That should get rid of practically all of it, if not
all. What I like to do is once I install a program, I run it first.
For the reason that when the program runs for the first time it adds
even more keys to the registry. Then I shutdown the program and let
my uninstaller (Total Uninstall) monitor all the changes. This way I
have a more complete record of everything the program installed.

Cheers...

 

[Mister Charlie]

Have you searched through the registry for "realone" or "real one"
entries?

Yes. There are a gazillion Real folders. I wasn't sure if I could
delete them or not so I didn't. Of course Real also has many files
under bizarre and deceitful other names that one would not know is
attached to Real.


Of course you should back up the registry before messing with

it. When ever I uninstall a program I always search the registry to
try and get rid of any stray keys that might have been left.

Another option that works more times then not, is to re-install the
application again. However this time you make sure to use an
uninstaller to monitor the installation. Then you would uninstall the
application again using the *Uninstaller* that monitored the
installation. That should get rid of practically all of it, if not
all. What I like to do is once I install a program, I run it first.
For the reason that when the program runs for the first time it adds
even more keys to the registry. Then I shutdown the program and let
my uninstaller (Total Uninstall) monitor all the changes. This way I
have a more complete record of everything the program installed.

Hm. Interesting, and sensible. Thanks, I'll look into that.

 

[Dan Epstein]

But you did not answer the question.

Let me pose it differently: if one relies on "Add or Remove Programs"
to remove RealOne Player and then manually deletes the directory left
behind, is there any component of RealOne still resident on the system
that overtly harms one's system?

I'm not talking about the crap it leaves in the registry, which it
should not do, but is there some driver or link library or executable
left behind that you can identify and which one should ensure is
removed? Believe me, I don't like the fact that RealOne does not clean
up after itself any more than you do. But is it just sloppy
implementation by RealOne engineers or something more insidious?

Also, how about some suggestions for a replacement for RealOne? Since
much content on the Internet depends on RealOne or equivalent, what is a
good Freeware replacement for RealOne? How reliable is it relative to
RealOne?

Thanks,
Dan

 

[Night2000]

But you did not answer the question.

Let me pose it differently: if one relies on "Add or Remove Programs"
to remove RealOne Player and then manually deletes the directory left
behind, is there any component of RealOne still resident on the system
that overtly harms one's system?

I'm not talking about the crap it leaves in the registry, which it
should not do, but is there some driver or link library or executable
left behind that you can identify and which one should ensure is
removed? Believe me, I don't like the fact that RealOne does not clean
up after itself any more than you do. But is it just sloppy
implementation by RealOne engineers or something more insidious?

Also, how about some suggestions for a replacement for RealOne? Since
much content on the Internet depends on RealOne or equivalent, what is a
good Freeware replacement for RealOne? How reliable is it relative to
RealOne?

Thanks,
Dan

I install and uninstall lots of software. I also rely heavily on
monitoring each installation with (Total Uninstall). As far as I know
Total Uninstall will delete all files that the program installs. Where
people have a problem with Total Uninstall, is they say it sometimes
doesn't get all the registry entries out. That is why I also run the
installed program first. So if it adds any extra keys, then they will
also be monitored. Then I will close the program, and let Total
Uninstall finish monitoring all the changes. Then I do a quick scan of
the registry to make sure there is no residue keys. So far this method
has worked out very well for me.

As far as what other program to use. The only two choices I know of is
Real Alternative, or Jet Audio... Perhaps someone else knows of other
alternatives.

Cheers.

 

[null]

I install and uninstall lots of software. I also rely heavily on
monitoring each installation with (Total Uninstall).

Have you ever tried InCtrl5 ?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,9882,00.asp


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[John Corliss]

Have you ever tried InCtrl5 ?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,9882,00.asp

Art,
If null@zilch doesn't have a copy backed up, he won't be able to
get one:

"The PC Magazine Utility Library is now available by subscription
only. For just $19.97 (or $14.97 if you're a current subscriber to PC
Magazine's print or digital edition), subscribers get full access for
12 months," etc. etc. etc.

So it's unfortunately, no longer freeware. And the EULA says it can't
be distributed by anybody else but them:

"Under no circumstances may you distribute any unaltered or altered
version of the Software through any means, including, without
limitation, personal bulletin boards, ftp sites, CompuServe, the Web,
floppy disk or other storage device, or under any name, including
without limitation, your name, Ziff-Davis' name or any third party's
name, nor may you distribute or market programs that contain altered
or unaltered portions of the Software's source code."

so even though I have a copy of the zip file backed up on my HD, I
can't legally post it to the ABF group.

 

[null]

Art,
If null@zilch doesn't have a copy backed up, he won't be able to
get one:

I just noticed that the download link I gave doesn't work. I had
downloaded InCtrl5 from somewhere recently. I saw no payment or
prescription requirement, and nothing showed up when I ran and used
the program. So I thought it is freeware. I think many people are
probably downloading it from "somewheres" (I'm not going to bother to
find these d/l locations again) without having a clue that it's not
freeware.

I'll take your word for it since it's not of sufficient interest to me
to investigate it for myself.

"The PC Magazine Utility Library is now available by subscription
only. For just $19.97 (or $14.97 if you're a current subscriber to PC
Magazine's print or digital edition), subscribers get full access for
12 months," etc. etc. etc.

So it's unfortunately, no longer freeware. And the EULA says it can't
be distributed by anybody else but them:

"Under no circumstances may you distribute any unaltered or altered
version of the Software through any means, including, without
limitation, personal bulletin boards, ftp sites, CompuServe, the Web,
floppy disk or other storage device, or under any name, including
without limitation, your name, Ziff-Davis' name or any third party's
name, nor may you distribute or market programs that contain altered
or unaltered portions of the Software's source code."

so even though I have a copy of the zip file backed up on my HD, I
can't legally post it to the ABF group.

Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[CoMa]

Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 2.0/32.652

I just noticed that the download link I gave doesn't work. I had
downloaded InCtrl5 from somewhere recently. I saw no payment or
prescription requirement, and nothing showed up when I ran and used
the program. So I thought it is freeware. I think many people are
probably downloading it from "somewheres" (I'm not going to bother to
find these d/l locations again) without having a clue that it's not
freeware.

I'll take your word for it since it's not of sufficient interest to me
to investigate it for myself.

You can get InCtrl5 from this site
http://www.generation.net/~hleboeuf/pcutils.htm
(at the end of the page)



/CoMa


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[Night2000]

Have you ever tried InCtrl5 ?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,9882,00.asp


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

Sure InCtrl is a fine program, I used to use it all the time.
However you couldn't use it to undo an installation of files.
Plus you had to use another very good program called UndoReg.
Which would read the log file, created by InCtrl 5, and be able to
erase the registry entires. So while InCtrl 5 is great for monitoring
an installation. It can't be used as a stand alone program to undo an
installation. Except as a guide to find where all the files, and
registry keys of the program were installed.

 

[null]

Sure InCtrl is a fine program, I used to use it all the time.
However you couldn't use it to undo an installation of files.
Plus you had to use another very good program called UndoReg.
Which would read the log file, created by InCtrl 5, and be able to
erase the registry entires. So while InCtrl 5 is great for monitoring
an installation. It can't be used as a stand alone program to undo an
installation. Except as a guide to find where all the files, and
registry keys of the program were installed.

Thanks. InCtrl5 is useful in cases where you merely want to study the
effects of a install but not necessarily reverse the entire install.
For example, you can study the effects of the use of IERadicator, and
then only reverse undesirable effects. On Windows ME, many things are
broken (I won't get into the particulars here) when you want to
permanently eradicate IE. It's not easy by any means, but it's
possible to restore some Windows features you may want that have been
broken.

Another use is the study of the effects of Trojans run on a goat
machine where a good test protocol calls for reinstall of the OS each
time rather than risk a possible botched reversal of Trojan installs.

However, not having used other apps along these lines, I have no idea
whether or not there's something better (or just as good) to use for
the above purposes where all you want is thorough detailed logging of
the effects of installs. Perhaps the apps you've suggested are just as
suitable but have the advantage of offering more capabilities (along
with no question marks concerning the freeware status).


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg