Random reboots- Bad memory? Device Driver error everytime

T

TReminga

Here are the stats I have for my machine:
P4 2.53ghz
Gigabyte GA-8IHXP Rev 2.1
4x PC1066 Samsung 512MB RDRAM rimms
Creative Labs Live! Value
Gainward GeForce4 128MB Ultra video
Promise TX1000 IDE RAID card
1x IBM 120GB Deskstar
3x various 120GB hard drives- spanned with Promise card
Linksys 802.11g wireless adaptor

All drivers seem to go on fine.

My problem:
The system is very unstable, usually when I am using IE. I will click
a link and presto the box will reboot itself. It usually happens once
a day, sometimes twice. I rarely go for a day without it rebooting-
unless the box is unused. There have been times it also reboots itself
at night while I sleep- so it does not HAVE to be under load.

I have run memtest86 on my memory and have found one faulty module. I
plan to pull it out. Every time though the system reboots it comes
back with an Microsoft Recovered from Error message. It always blames
a Device Driver for the problem, but never tells me what device driver
caused the error. I would have pulled the RAM already but I did not
have the crimms to put into the slots. I am wondering if others have
this same problem?

Are there any other memory tests I can run besides memtest86? I
switched the memory around and the errors continued to follow the
stick, so I know which one it is. I have heard that there are other
memory test apps out there.

Would faulty memory cause Windows to report that device driver error?
Any help would be great, I am SO sick of such a flaky box!
 
T

TheCrewser

Start->Control Panel->System->Advanced->Startup and Recovery
Uncheck Automatically Restart

At least now you will probably get a BSOD with an error message that
will be easier to track down.

Good Luck...

GLCrews,MCP
 
M

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)

First, be sure your antivirus software has the latest definitions and run a
virus scan.

If your system is clear of viruses, open Control Panel, open System, go to
the Advanced tab, click Settings under Startup and Recovery, remove the
check from "Automatically Restart" under System Failure. This will cause
the system to blue screen instead of restarting on errors and the
information on the blue screen may give a clue as to the source of the
issue.
 
C

CWatters

I have run memtest86 on my memory and have found one faulty module. I
plan to pull it out.

Fix that then see what happens.
Would faulty memory cause Windows to report that device driver error?

Depends what that faulty bit of memory is being used for I guess.
 
K

Kent_dieGo

Hardware issues are tough to diagnose. Put sound card in different PCI slot.
Remove PCI cards to test. Experiment with BIOS settings. Get latest BIOS.
Run memtest86. Keep replacing parts until fixed. I have had a few
motherboards that were just basterds, and replacing solved all trouble.\

-Kent
 
T

Tim

Could be h/w, could be s/w.

As soon as I hear IE, it makes me think spyware is installed...
Check you don't have spyware installed.
Get Adaware or other reputable spyware remover and run it a few times...

After you have eliminated h/w as the culprit, consider a Repair install and
re-installation of the latest service pack along with all subsequent
patches.

Follow the advice already posted and make sure you can take a good look at
the BSOD screen. Note down the STOP message - the first four lines. If a
device driver is causing or active during the crash, it may be listed near
the top of the blue screen (sorry, don't have a bsod in front of me to
describe in detail). Lookup for a name such as nv4_mini.sys. If you want
help with the STOP message, either go to http://support.microsoft.com/ and
do a search or post back.

The device driver listed (if any consistently) may then indicate device
driver itself, the device (EG graphics) has a fault, or main memory. Bad
memory can cause many types of faults.

You may know that memtest86 can report eroneous errors in test #5. What test
is reporting errors?

HTH
- Tim
 
F

Frank

TReminga said:
Here are the stats I have for my machine:
P4 2.53ghz
Gigabyte GA-8IHXP Rev 2.1
4x PC1066 Samsung 512MB RDRAM rimms
Creative Labs Live! Value
Gainward GeForce4 128MB Ultra video
Promise TX1000 IDE RAID card
1x IBM 120GB Deskstar
3x various 120GB hard drives- spanned with Promise card
Linksys 802.11g wireless adaptor

All drivers seem to go on fine.

My problem:
The system is very unstable, usually when I am using IE. I will click
a link and presto the box will reboot itself. It usually happens once
a day, sometimes twice. I rarely go for a day without it rebooting-
unless the box is unused. There have been times it also reboots itself
at night while I sleep- so it does not HAVE to be under load.

I have run memtest86 on my memory and have found one faulty module. I
plan to pull it out. Every time though the system reboots it comes
back with an Microsoft Recovered from Error message. It always blames
a Device Driver for the problem, but never tells me what device driver
caused the error. I would have pulled the RAM already but I did not
have the crimms to put into the slots. I am wondering if others have
this same problem?

Are there any other memory tests I can run besides memtest86? I
switched the memory around and the errors continued to follow the
stick, so I know which one it is. I have heard that there are other
memory test apps out there.

Would faulty memory cause Windows to report that device driver error?
Any help would be great, I am SO sick of such a flaky box!

FWIW
I am having a similar problem and I have corked it down to my
fasttrak tx4000. I was running a 0+1 RAID. It worked fine from
about July til about three weeks ago. Scenerio as follows:
My 4 WD drives have zeros written to them.
Run memtest 1 pass. OK
Run MS memory test. OK
Install fasttrak tx4000. run memtest 1 pass OK. run MS memory test OK
Install 4 HDDs to fasttrak tx4000 test OK
Build array------MS memory test fails the first for test and then locks up
Memtest86 will not fail until the second pass.
I get the same results on 4 different boxen. GA 865PE, GA 865P, ABIT
845PE and an Intel 440BX.
What a RAID array has to do with memory, I don't know. I am working
with Promise on this. I believe that they will replace my card.
 
G

Guest

It sounds like you've answered your own question.

Bad memory will cause random hangs (and reboots if you've got windows
configured to do so) as the PC will often go off into lala land when values
in memory change at random.

If memtest86 isn't passing, then you're going to have problems like this
sooner or later.

Replace the faulty memory.
 
M

Mr. Elbe

It sounds like you've answered your own question.

Bad memory will cause random hangs (and reboots if you've got windows
configured to do so) as the PC will often go off into lala land when values
in memory change at random.

If memtest86 isn't passing, then you're going to have problems like this
sooner or later.

Replace the faulty memory.

I had something similar happen. Problem was that the fan on the video
card ceased rotating.
 
E

erich

I have the same problem but my video card has no fan...I have change the Ram
for two time....I have no idea why it do so.
 
M

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)

First, be sure your antivirus software has the latest definitions and run a
virus scan.

Second, download, install and run Ad Aware:
www.lavasoftusa.com

If your system is clear of viruses, open Control Panel, open System, go to
the Advanced tab, click Settings under Startup and Recovery, remove the
check from "Automatically Restart" under System Failure. This will cause
the system to blue screen instead of restarting on errors and the
information on the blue screen may give a clue as to the source of the
issue.

Open Control Panel, open Administrative Tools, open Event Viewer, look for
errors corresponding to the crash, double click the error, the information
contained within may give a clue as to the
source of the problem.

Assuming you have an XP CD and not a recovery CD, place the XP CD in the
drive, when the setup screen appears, select "Check System Compatibility,"
the report it generates may point to problem hardware or software on your
system. If you do not have an XP CD, you can download this application
known as the Upgrade Advisor from the following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp
Note: If you have access to a broadband connection it might be best to
download using that as this is a rather large download.

Check for the latest drivers for your hardware, especially your graphics
card and soundcard and all peripherals connected to your system. No not use
Windows Update for this, go to the device manufacturer's web sites and if
you install updated drivers, ignore the message about drivers being unsigned
by Microsoft.
 
E

erich

Open Event viewer:


the service V2i non been started 'cause to error during startup.

What??
 
M

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)

Makes no sense to me either. Did you run a virus scan, did you run Ad Aware
as suggested? This does not appear to be an XP service.
 
E

erich

I have resolved this problem (V2i ), but not this:

NAT ( Network Address Translator) non è riuscito a richiedere un'operazione
del modulo di traduzione in modalità kernel. Errata configurazione, risorse
insufficienti o errore interno. Il codice di errore è nei dati.

it is in italian but you should understand the meanning...
Have you an idea?
thanks
 
M

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)

It appears to have something to do with either your network interface card
or your network configuration. Hard to say if it's the card, the
configuration or possibly a firewall or some other security software that
might be interfering.

Have you performed any of the checks I originally posted as they might help
source the issue:

First, be sure your antivirus software has the latest definitions and run a
virus scan.

Second, download, install and run Ad Aware:
www.lavasoftusa.com

Open Control Panel, open Administrative Tools, open Event Viewer, look for
errors corresponding to the crash, double click the error, the information
contained within may give a clue as to the
source of the problem.

Assuming you have an XP CD and not a recovery CD, place the XP CD in the
drive, when the setup screen appears, select "Check System Compatibility,"
the report it generates may point to problem hardware or software on your
system. If you do not have an XP CD, you can download this application
known as the Upgrade Advisor from the following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp
Note: If you have access to a broadband connection it might be best to
download using that as this is a rather large download.

Check for the latest drivers for your hardware, especially your graphics
card and soundcard and all peripherals connected to your system. No not use
Windows Update for this, go to the device manufacturer's web sites and if
you install updated drivers, ignore the message about drivers being unsigned
by Microsoft.
 
E

erich

thanks


Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User) said:
It appears to have something to do with either your network interface card
or your network configuration. Hard to say if it's the card, the
configuration or possibly a firewall or some other security software that
might be interfering.

Have you performed any of the checks I originally posted as they might help
source the issue:

First, be sure your antivirus software has the latest definitions and run a
virus scan.

Second, download, install and run Ad Aware:
www.lavasoftusa.com

Open Control Panel, open Administrative Tools, open Event Viewer, look for
errors corresponding to the crash, double click the error, the information
contained within may give a clue as to the
source of the problem.

Assuming you have an XP CD and not a recovery CD, place the XP CD in the
drive, when the setup screen appears, select "Check System Compatibility,"
the report it generates may point to problem hardware or software on your
system. If you do not have an XP CD, you can download this application
known as the Upgrade Advisor from the following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp
Note: If you have access to a broadband connection it might be best to
download using that as this is a rather large download.

Check for the latest drivers for your hardware, especially your graphics
card and soundcard and all peripherals connected to your system. No not use
Windows Update for this, go to the device manufacturer's web sites and if
you install updated drivers, ignore the message about drivers being unsigned
by Microsoft.


--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
 
E

erich

thanks a lot, however it say that thare are no problems!
And it is 4 day that I have no reboot!
Bye and marry Xmas!
 
M

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)

You're welcome and good luck.

Have a happy holiday.
 
E

erich

Sorry again.... it reboot itself !
But now I saw the blue screenwith this report:
error
0x0000001A(0x000412841, 0x17806000,0x0000EB85,0x00503000)

this error I have already seen, but I don't know what does it meaning!!?
Do you have an idea?!

Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User) said:
You're welcome and good luck.

Have a happy holiday.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

erich said:
thanks a lot, however it say that thare are no problems!
And it is 4 day that I have no reboot!
Bye and marry Xmas!

"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> ha scritto
nel messaggio news:%[email protected]...
It appears to have something to do with either your network interface
card
or your network configuration. Hard to say if it's the card, the
configuration or possibly a firewall or some other security software that
might be interfering.

Have you performed any of the checks I originally posted as they might help
source the issue:

First, be sure your antivirus software has the latest definitions and
run
a
virus scan.

Second, download, install and run Ad Aware:
www.lavasoftusa.com

Open Control Panel, open Administrative Tools, open Event Viewer, look
for
errors corresponding to the crash, double click the error, the
information
contained within may give a clue as to the
source of the problem.

Assuming you have an XP CD and not a recovery CD, place the XP CD in the
drive, when the setup screen appears, select "Check System
Compatibility,"
the report it generates may point to problem hardware or software on your
system. If you do not have an XP CD, you can download this application
known as the Upgrade Advisor from the following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp
Note: If you have access to a broadband connection it might be best to
download using that as this is a rather large download.

Check for the latest drivers for your hardware, especially your graphics
card and soundcard and all peripherals connected to your system. No
not
use
Windows Update for this, go to the device manufacturer's web sites and if
you install updated drivers, ignore the message about drivers being unsigned
by Microsoft.


--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

I have resolved this problem (V2i ), but not this:

NAT ( Network Address Translator) non è riuscito a richiedere
un'operazione
del modulo di traduzione in modalità kernel. Errata configurazione,
risorse
insufficienti o errore interno. Il codice di errore è nei dati.

it is in italian but you should understand the meanning...
Have you an idea?
thanks


"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> ha scritto
nel messaggio Makes no sense to me either. Did you run a virus scan, did you run Ad
Aware
as suggested? This does not appear to be an XP service.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

Open Event viewer:


the service V2i non been started 'cause to error during startup.

What??

"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> ha
scritto
nel messaggio First, be sure your antivirus software has the latest
definitions
and
run
a
virus scan.

Second, download, install and run Ad Aware:
www.lavasoftusa.com

If your system is clear of viruses, open Control Panel, open System,
go
to
the Advanced tab, click Settings under Startup and Recovery,
remove
the
check from "Automatically Restart" under System Failure. This
will
cause
the system to blue screen instead of restarting on errors and the
information on the blue screen may give a clue as to the source of
the
issue.

Open Control Panel, open Administrative Tools, open Event Viewer,
look
for
errors corresponding to the crash, double click the error, the
information
contained within may give a clue as to the
source of the problem.

Assuming you have an XP CD and not a recovery CD, place the XP
CD
in
the
drive, when the setup screen appears, select "Check System
Compatibility,"
the report it generates may point to problem hardware or
software
on
your
system. If you do not have an XP CD, you can download this
application
known as the Upgrade Advisor from the following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp
Note: If you have access to a broadband connection it might be
best
to
download using that as this is a rather large download.

Check for the latest drivers for your hardware, especially your
graphics
card and soundcard and all peripherals connected to your system. No
not
use
Windows Update for this, go to the device manufacturer's web sites
and
if
you install updated drivers, ignore the message about drivers
being
unsigned
by Microsoft.


--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

I have the same problem but my video card has no fan...I have
change
the
Ram
for two time....I have no idea why it do so.

"Mr. Elbe" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
 

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